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FROM SITE VISITOR SIM: You made a very key point regarding Realization a couple of days ago. It's not a matter of acting stoical, rational, calm, or non-emotional. It's simply that is the byproduct of being Realized (so you say).
F.: Yes. As the non-Realized wander or ricochet through the relative, they take their “world” to be a stage (to use a Realized poet’s words). Their imagined “world,” then, is conceived to be a stage and “all the men and women, merely players.” Each plays a role in the Theater of the Lie, in the Drama of Fiction, and eventually they all become convinced that they are the roles being played.
When Reality is overlaid on the relative, then the acting ends. There is no one to “act stoical, rational, calm, or non-emotional.” There is no one left to continue living in the mirror as happened before. Realization is about not acting and about seeing that the stage is a stage and that persons are all actors;
about seeing that so many are merely putting on an act; about walking off the imaginary stage; about no longer accepting roles that inspire depression, anger or fear; and about moving through the remainder of the manifestation fully awake, aware, and conscious.
[Add “in a totally spontaneous and natural fashion” if the Realization happened via Nisarga yoga.] The “Night of the Living Dead”-type of robotic-like, trance-like walking about as if asleep ends.
The way the relative unfolds post-Realization was also addressed in this exchange yesterday after a comment about the ways in which “the humours” fluctuate:
F.: By the way, to consider the sanguine and phlegmatic and choleric and melancholic humour states to be a part of what is natural is not outside the nisarga understanding—back to the biorhythms and the body's cycles—as long as it is clear that all of that involves a body and nothing more.
Louise: A couple of years back, I had the sense that a feeling (joy, sadness, love, pain) blows through consciousness like a wave. Then human beings caught in that wave, personalize it. We say “I am sad because … blah blah”).
F.: Or that could be said to be “mind-alizing” it as well as personalizing it. If Fully Realized, then there can be no thought following a witnessed feeling.
L.: Is this true – the idea of a feeling wave? With personality in place, the humours or even the fundamental feeling tone of the enneatype must play its tune. How is that natural? Or is it only unnatural when we personalize rather than just witness the feeling?
F.: It is natural in that the efficiency level of the brain’s operations—as well as the fluctuations in the body’s levels of energy—continually fluctuate in all humans, animals, birds, etc.
You infer accurately when noting that it becomes unnatural when the “mind” personalizes that which is not a “feeling” but is an “emotion.” Only ego-states can generate emotions...the emoting that leads to emotional intoxication, acting out, etc.
It is the unblocked, post-Realization consciousness that can Witness feelings rise or fall without emotional intoxication. Consider: Maharaj noted that the body pain from his throat cancer had nothing to do with “Him” (the witnessing consciousness).
Just as “He” pointed out that “He” was merely the witness of the body and the pain, You and I could as easily say, "Ah, the space has some of that black bile stuff going on - the stuff Shakespeare mentioned." The body has certain imbalances in its chemistry today, so the consciousness is registering or noting some sense of “melancholia,” but that has nothing to do with the witnessing agent.
To watch a train plowing through a truck that stalled on a railroad track is not to be plowed through Your Self. Maharaj explained that Westerners usually display tamas (darkness, melancholia, passivity) and rajas (motion, restlessness, the going-doing-zooming syndrome) rather than sattva (being as opposed to doing).
Tamas and rajas can indicate a lack of Realization if involved with “personalizing” sadness or if rooted in fears or desires that trap persons in their continuous efforts to accumulate and escape. When that is the case, there is no going into or out of harmony and disharmony. The disharmony dominates the existence.
Yet fluctuations in what were once called “the humours” can also manifest as a result of the body’s physical condition. As is the case when a mix of water and gasoline are introduced into the tank of a car and the engine misfires, such is also the case when a food plan is being followed that is not the plan for a particular body type—three different types being in existence.
Maharaj addressed that very effect, making note of the way that the body’s chemistry can be out of balance, (the body being nothing more than a plant food body, chemical at its core.) Either an absence of Full Realization or a body’s chemical imbalance can result in one exhibiting similar behaviors, but the causes are obviously quite different and require quite different approaches in addressing the real issue.
No matter what, however, the body has nothing to do with What You Are or with What I Am.
L.: Ok – that is clear. So there may be effects that arise from the body (pain from illness; biorhythms, hormones, effects of diet or poor quality of food, etc) – but since I am not the body, these can simply be witnessed.
F.: Exactly. Sickness and health can be associated with the body and are aspects of the consciousness, yet I am not the consciousness—neither are You. How is that known? Sickness and health are dualities and dualities have nothing to do with You or Me. That Which You Are and That Which I Am is beyond the consciousness, beyond the beingness and even beyond the non-beingness.
The body needs so many things, but neither You nor I need anything. As for consciousness, it too is restless in that it is always in motion. Stability can only come via first abiding as the original nature, as that original state. Then, unwavering peace and resolute freedom come when abiding as the Void. Please enter into the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
F.: Yes. As the non-Realized wander or ricochet through the relative, they take their “world” to be a stage (to use a Realized poet’s words). Their imagined “world,” then, is conceived to be a stage and “all the men and women, merely players.” Each plays a role in the Theater of the Lie, in the Drama of Fiction, and eventually they all become convinced that they are the roles being played.
When Reality is overlaid on the relative, then the acting ends. There is no one to “act stoical, rational, calm, or non-emotional.” There is no one left to continue living in the mirror as happened before. Realization is about not acting and about seeing that the stage is a stage and that persons are all actors;
about seeing that so many are merely putting on an act; about walking off the imaginary stage; about no longer accepting roles that inspire depression, anger or fear; and about moving through the remainder of the manifestation fully awake, aware, and conscious.
[Add “in a totally spontaneous and natural fashion” if the Realization happened via Nisarga yoga.] The “Night of the Living Dead”-type of robotic-like, trance-like walking about as if asleep ends.
The way the relative unfolds post-Realization was also addressed in this exchange yesterday after a comment about the ways in which “the humours” fluctuate:
F.: By the way, to consider the sanguine and phlegmatic and choleric and melancholic humour states to be a part of what is natural is not outside the nisarga understanding—back to the biorhythms and the body's cycles—as long as it is clear that all of that involves a body and nothing more.
Louise: A couple of years back, I had the sense that a feeling (joy, sadness, love, pain) blows through consciousness like a wave. Then human beings caught in that wave, personalize it. We say “I am sad because … blah blah”).
F.: Or that could be said to be “mind-alizing” it as well as personalizing it. If Fully Realized, then there can be no thought following a witnessed feeling.
L.: Is this true – the idea of a feeling wave? With personality in place, the humours or even the fundamental feeling tone of the enneatype must play its tune. How is that natural? Or is it only unnatural when we personalize rather than just witness the feeling?
F.: It is natural in that the efficiency level of the brain’s operations—as well as the fluctuations in the body’s levels of energy—continually fluctuate in all humans, animals, birds, etc.
You infer accurately when noting that it becomes unnatural when the “mind” personalizes that which is not a “feeling” but is an “emotion.” Only ego-states can generate emotions...the emoting that leads to emotional intoxication, acting out, etc.
It is the unblocked, post-Realization consciousness that can Witness feelings rise or fall without emotional intoxication. Consider: Maharaj noted that the body pain from his throat cancer had nothing to do with “Him” (the witnessing consciousness).
Just as “He” pointed out that “He” was merely the witness of the body and the pain, You and I could as easily say, "Ah, the space has some of that black bile stuff going on - the stuff Shakespeare mentioned." The body has certain imbalances in its chemistry today, so the consciousness is registering or noting some sense of “melancholia,” but that has nothing to do with the witnessing agent.
To watch a train plowing through a truck that stalled on a railroad track is not to be plowed through Your Self. Maharaj explained that Westerners usually display tamas (darkness, melancholia, passivity) and rajas (motion, restlessness, the going-doing-zooming syndrome) rather than sattva (being as opposed to doing).
Tamas and rajas can indicate a lack of Realization if involved with “personalizing” sadness or if rooted in fears or desires that trap persons in their continuous efforts to accumulate and escape. When that is the case, there is no going into or out of harmony and disharmony. The disharmony dominates the existence.
Yet fluctuations in what were once called “the humours” can also manifest as a result of the body’s physical condition. As is the case when a mix of water and gasoline are introduced into the tank of a car and the engine misfires, such is also the case when a food plan is being followed that is not the plan for a particular body type—three different types being in existence.
Maharaj addressed that very effect, making note of the way that the body’s chemistry can be out of balance, (the body being nothing more than a plant food body, chemical at its core.) Either an absence of Full Realization or a body’s chemical imbalance can result in one exhibiting similar behaviors, but the causes are obviously quite different and require quite different approaches in addressing the real issue.
No matter what, however, the body has nothing to do with What You Are or with What I Am.
L.: Ok – that is clear. So there may be effects that arise from the body (pain from illness; biorhythms, hormones, effects of diet or poor quality of food, etc) – but since I am not the body, these can simply be witnessed.
F.: Exactly. Sickness and health can be associated with the body and are aspects of the consciousness, yet I am not the consciousness—neither are You. How is that known? Sickness and health are dualities and dualities have nothing to do with You or Me. That Which You Are and That Which I Am is beyond the consciousness, beyond the beingness and even beyond the non-beingness.
The body needs so many things, but neither You nor I need anything. As for consciousness, it too is restless in that it is always in motion. Stability can only come via first abiding as the original nature, as that original state. Then, unwavering peace and resolute freedom come when abiding as the Void. Please enter into the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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FROM “ANONYMOUS”: Almost every visitor brought Maharaj food or flowers. I’d like to treat you to a meal if you tell me how to do so with my credit card!
FROM LOUISE, SOUTH AFRICA: [Consider the case of an acquaintance who] added a donate button to his site. Regular blog readers were happy to support the site in this way.
F.: Okay—so it’s done, but note that the postings and responses are offered without charge, as is access to the library of 1,300 Advaitin essays archived on the site.
That said, any donation will be appreciated. Thank you.
1. REALIZATION AIDS
2. ADVAITA BOOK SETS-50% off
3. DONATIONS
1. REALIZATION AIDS
The Advanced Seekers’ Book Set
From the I to the Absolute
Consciousness / Awareness
From the Absolute to the Nothingness
Purchase one or all at The Official Website of Floyd Henderson
2. ADVAITA / NON-DUALITY BOOK SET
THE FOLLOWING BOOKS ARE IN THE STORE IN LIMITED SUPPLY AND WILL BE OFFERED AT 50% OFF WHEN BOUGHT AS A PACKAGE:
From the Absolute to the Nothingness
Consciousness/Awareness
From the I to the Absolute (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
It's All Bullshit (and Why Knowing it Sets You Free)
Meditation Guide (Advanced Volume)
There's No Such Thing as ''Peace of Mind''
Ending Financial Problems by Understanding Your Personality
The Essence of the Teachings
$79.00 for all eight books + free S&H in the U.S.
3. DONATIONS
FROM SIM IN KENTUCKY, U.S.A.: How about a donate button? I give monthly to a blog about locations and reviews of a particular type of restaurant we like. I’d sure donate to this blog.
FROM “ANONYMOUS”: Almost every visitor brought Maharaj food or flowers. I’d like to treat you to a meal if you tell me how to do so with my credit card!
FROM LOUISE, SOUTH AFRICA: [Consider the case of an acquaintance who] added a donate button to his site. Regular blog readers were happy to support the site in this way.
F.: Okay—so it’s done, but note that the postings and responses are offered without charge, as is access to the library of 1,300 Advaitin essays archived on the site.
That said, any donation will be appreciated. Thank you.
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