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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
[Continued from earlier this week]
F.: Some (who claim to have realized) also claim that they now abide “in the Absolute.” Of course that is an impossibility. As Maharaj pointed out, “Presently you have to abide in the Am-ness.”
For those who want to argue the point, consider:
** The consciousness now manifested could be said to have been “in the Absolute” prior to manifestation
** The consciousness is now manifested within trillions of forms / spaces on this planet
** The Absolute is limitless and omnipresent—here, now, everywhere—so to that extent, okay, it can be said that the body-cum-consciousness is technically “in the Absolute” since that field of energy is omnipresent, but that is not what such persons are asserting when they reject the Am-ness and claim to be living in the Absolute only
** For the sake of teaching, the distinction is made between the consciousness manifested within a confined space and the consciousness that is not manifested within a confined space
[NOTE: In May of 2007, the following was offered:
In the expanse of space, energy can move via wave and/or particle form. Subatomic particles of specialized energy exist and are moving through that expanse freely. Because the expanse is so vast (limitless in fact), the particles are not forced together into large-quantity clusters or groupings of energy within that space. Consciousness only 'happens' when large-quantity clusters or groupings of energy occur in compact spaces with nervous systems. Otherwise, the background of Awareness IS and energy is moving without confinement in that vast space labeled "the Absolute"; however, by definition at least, "consciousness" capable of being conscious of (as a result of manifestation) is not. Awareness is, even when there is no "one" to be conscious of.
You may visit the archives to read the full explanation in a May 2007 series.]
So for those who want to be technical and to argue the issue, yes, all is “in the Absolute,” but that is not how post-Realization abidance happens. Post-Realization, abidance happens as the natural state and in the natural manner, enjoying the Am-ness...not denying that it exists.
There are, however, other motives that prevent the masses from realizing and that prevent some who suppose that they have realized from living in a Nisarga—natural—fashion.
Among those claiming to be realized but who are trying to live supernaturally rather than naturally, it is grandiosity that can block natural living, that will inspire identifying with THAT only, that can lead to a devaluation of the post-Realization Am-ness, and that can even result in a rejection of the Am-ness itself.
Among the billions who will never realize and who will never live naturally—the billions who are attached to their third-step-of-seven-steps religious and spiritual roles—there is another reason that will prevent their ever living naturally:
MYTHOMANIA
The ignorant have been driven for 5000 years or more by their belief in myths and in mythological gods and goddesses. Such beliefs have led to the most insane words and the most insane deeds imaginable.
Such insanity has always accompanied belief in myths. The effects have only now generated impact on a global basis because there have never before been so many suffering from the form of insanity identified here as mythomania.
[For the thousands of years since persons combined all of their mythological gods into the concept of “a single god” as a result of Abraham’s teachings, the attachment to myth has continued. So pervasive are mythomaniacs now, numbering 6.5 billion or more all around the globe, that the insanity of believing in myths is no longer the domain of the ignorant alone. Now, intelligent persons as well are suffering from the mental illness of mythomania. Why? Because of their having been programmed and conditioned to believe ancient myths and to believe that the mythical god or gods or some Supreme Being or Supreme Beings which are at the heart of those myths are actual, real entities.]
Some claim that various forms of insanity are genetic, but most insanity is rooted in environment; that is, insanity can become the abnormal norm in cultures where myths are passed along early on as truth to children by persons in their environment who also accepted as truth the lies that they were told to believe as children...and told to believe without question.
That conditioning is now pervasive and happens among those who are walking about unconsciously, trapped in the Dream / Nightmare of the Planet. Consider: a married woman invited her college roommate and the roommate’s husband to spend a weekend with her and her husband. While the men were on the golf course, the women began preparing a roast for dinner that night.
While the woman was preparing the vegetables that would be cooked along with the roast, she asked her college friend to use the cutting board and a huge knife to cut the roast in half; to season both parts of the roast; to take out two small pans and fill them with a few inches of water; and to place the two pans in the oven.
The guest said, “You have a large roasting pan like the one I use at home. Why not put the roast in that for cooking?” The woman said, “I’m not really sure, but that’s the way mom always cooked roast when I was growing up at home.”
The guest said, “I don’t get it,” inspiring the hostess to call her mom and inquire. Her mom explained, “I’m not exactly sure why, but that’s just the way your grandmother always cooked roast, so it’s the way I have always cooked roast.”
The hostess then called her grandmother and asked, “Grandmother, you know how you always cut a roast in half and put it into two small pans for cooking? Did you do that to shorten the cooking time, or maybe to help the roast absorb the seasonings? Why have we always done it that way?”
The grandmother said, “I don’t know why you and your mom do it that way, but I always did it that way because we only had two small pans—we never had a large roasting pan.”
Maharaj: This is our stupidity, verging on insanity.
Why have you believed what you have believed? Why did you not question the things that could have been seen as totally senseless if you had investigated objectively? What stifled your willingness to investigate objectively? (Usually, threats of punishment accompany the charge to accept teachings with blind faith, and even if a child is curious enough to inquire, inquiries are soon stymied.)
What inspires the widespread acceptance of nonsense as fact? Why do persons accept it, without question, when persons claim that natural events (hurricane, earthquakes, floods, etc.) have some supernatural cause and some Supernatural Causer and some Supernatural Motive?
If you still accept as truth the 5000-year-old myths that were dreamed up by totally ignorant persons, then is it not time to begin a thorough investigation that is free of the constraints of the “blind faith” that has left you mentally and emotionally handicapped because of faulty programming and conditioning?
Is there any hope at all for a sane existence to happen, is there any hope at all for one to stabilize in the Am-ness, if your thoughts and words and deeds are being driven by your belief in lies and in fictional entities and in supernatural causes being assigned to natural events?
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
F.: Some (who claim to have realized) also claim that they now abide “in the Absolute.” Of course that is an impossibility. As Maharaj pointed out, “Presently you have to abide in the Am-ness.”
For those who want to argue the point, consider:
** The consciousness now manifested could be said to have been “in the Absolute” prior to manifestation
** The consciousness is now manifested within trillions of forms / spaces on this planet
** The Absolute is limitless and omnipresent—here, now, everywhere—so to that extent, okay, it can be said that the body-cum-consciousness is technically “in the Absolute” since that field of energy is omnipresent, but that is not what such persons are asserting when they reject the Am-ness and claim to be living in the Absolute only
** For the sake of teaching, the distinction is made between the consciousness manifested within a confined space and the consciousness that is not manifested within a confined space
[NOTE: In May of 2007, the following was offered:
In the expanse of space, energy can move via wave and/or particle form. Subatomic particles of specialized energy exist and are moving through that expanse freely. Because the expanse is so vast (limitless in fact), the particles are not forced together into large-quantity clusters or groupings of energy within that space. Consciousness only 'happens' when large-quantity clusters or groupings of energy occur in compact spaces with nervous systems. Otherwise, the background of Awareness IS and energy is moving without confinement in that vast space labeled "the Absolute"; however, by definition at least, "consciousness" capable of being conscious of (as a result of manifestation) is not. Awareness is, even when there is no "one" to be conscious of.
You may visit the archives to read the full explanation in a May 2007 series.]
So for those who want to be technical and to argue the issue, yes, all is “in the Absolute,” but that is not how post-Realization abidance happens. Post-Realization, abidance happens as the natural state and in the natural manner, enjoying the Am-ness...not denying that it exists.
There are, however, other motives that prevent the masses from realizing and that prevent some who suppose that they have realized from living in a Nisarga—natural—fashion.
Among those claiming to be realized but who are trying to live supernaturally rather than naturally, it is grandiosity that can block natural living, that will inspire identifying with THAT only, that can lead to a devaluation of the post-Realization Am-ness, and that can even result in a rejection of the Am-ness itself.
Among the billions who will never realize and who will never live naturally—the billions who are attached to their third-step-of-seven-steps religious and spiritual roles—there is another reason that will prevent their ever living naturally:
MYTHOMANIA
The ignorant have been driven for 5000 years or more by their belief in myths and in mythological gods and goddesses. Such beliefs have led to the most insane words and the most insane deeds imaginable.
Such insanity has always accompanied belief in myths. The effects have only now generated impact on a global basis because there have never before been so many suffering from the form of insanity identified here as mythomania.
[For the thousands of years since persons combined all of their mythological gods into the concept of “a single god” as a result of Abraham’s teachings, the attachment to myth has continued. So pervasive are mythomaniacs now, numbering 6.5 billion or more all around the globe, that the insanity of believing in myths is no longer the domain of the ignorant alone. Now, intelligent persons as well are suffering from the mental illness of mythomania. Why? Because of their having been programmed and conditioned to believe ancient myths and to believe that the mythical god or gods or some Supreme Being or Supreme Beings which are at the heart of those myths are actual, real entities.]
Some claim that various forms of insanity are genetic, but most insanity is rooted in environment; that is, insanity can become the abnormal norm in cultures where myths are passed along early on as truth to children by persons in their environment who also accepted as truth the lies that they were told to believe as children...and told to believe without question.
That conditioning is now pervasive and happens among those who are walking about unconsciously, trapped in the Dream / Nightmare of the Planet. Consider: a married woman invited her college roommate and the roommate’s husband to spend a weekend with her and her husband. While the men were on the golf course, the women began preparing a roast for dinner that night.
While the woman was preparing the vegetables that would be cooked along with the roast, she asked her college friend to use the cutting board and a huge knife to cut the roast in half; to season both parts of the roast; to take out two small pans and fill them with a few inches of water; and to place the two pans in the oven.
The guest said, “You have a large roasting pan like the one I use at home. Why not put the roast in that for cooking?” The woman said, “I’m not really sure, but that’s the way mom always cooked roast when I was growing up at home.”
The guest said, “I don’t get it,” inspiring the hostess to call her mom and inquire. Her mom explained, “I’m not exactly sure why, but that’s just the way your grandmother always cooked roast, so it’s the way I have always cooked roast.”
The hostess then called her grandmother and asked, “Grandmother, you know how you always cut a roast in half and put it into two small pans for cooking? Did you do that to shorten the cooking time, or maybe to help the roast absorb the seasonings? Why have we always done it that way?”
The grandmother said, “I don’t know why you and your mom do it that way, but I always did it that way because we only had two small pans—we never had a large roasting pan.”
Maharaj: This is our stupidity, verging on insanity.
Why have you believed what you have believed? Why did you not question the things that could have been seen as totally senseless if you had investigated objectively? What stifled your willingness to investigate objectively? (Usually, threats of punishment accompany the charge to accept teachings with blind faith, and even if a child is curious enough to inquire, inquiries are soon stymied.)
What inspires the widespread acceptance of nonsense as fact? Why do persons accept it, without question, when persons claim that natural events (hurricane, earthquakes, floods, etc.) have some supernatural cause and some Supernatural Causer and some Supernatural Motive?
If you still accept as truth the 5000-year-old myths that were dreamed up by totally ignorant persons, then is it not time to begin a thorough investigation that is free of the constraints of the “blind faith” that has left you mentally and emotionally handicapped because of faulty programming and conditioning?
Is there any hope at all for a sane existence to happen, is there any hope at all for one to stabilize in the Am-ness, if your thoughts and words and deeds are being driven by your belief in lies and in fictional entities and in supernatural causes being assigned to natural events?
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
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For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
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(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
You may visit The Official Website of Floyd Henderson for information on each book.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
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4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
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