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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
FROM LOUISE (who will be posting next week) REGARDING THE FOLLOWING: “The teachings are simple; the difficulty—even among those who think they have attained the total Advaitin understanding—is to break free of the effects of any remaining beliefs and concepts and ideas.”
L.: So true – how to let go of the final kite string and surrender to the wind.
F.: Excellently put.
Now, as the series comes to a close, a few last pointers will be offered regarding the topic before the review. To continue with the thread from yesterday, there are other cases where the three-part scenario, which now occurs on a planet-wide basis, can be witnessed:
A. Persons assume a religious or spiritual identity and fixate at the third step on the seven-step journey to Full Realization
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B. Persons then overvalue THAT (which 6.5 billion take to be something far different from what it really is)
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C. Persons therefore devalue the Am-ness
In Irving, Texas, U.S.A., there is a woman who assumed the persona of “The Wife” for six decades. It was her sole identity for all of her adult years, other than “The Christian.” Nine years ago, her husband “died” (according to her beliefs) and went to heaven.
For nine years, she has been miserable throughout almost every waking hour. She has prayed for THAT to come—THAT in her belief system being an eternal reward; life eternal in heaven with God, along with Christ at his right hand; and life eternal with her husband.
The Am-ness means nothing to her. It is anathema. It is misery and suffering manifest. While arrogance usually drives persons to become “Spiritual Giants” at the third step, there is this other group such as that woman, so trapped in personality—in false identifications—that they also devalue the Am-ness while hoping for THAT so that their misery can end.
A second group devalues the Am-ness as much as those who have upgraded in their “minds” the illusion of “self” from “Men and Women” to “Really Good Men and Women” to “Religious and / or Spiritual Men and Women” to “Super Spiritual Beings” to “THAT.”
The second group is the group that so devalues the Am-ness and the personality-generated misery which they are suffering that they commit suicide. Hundreds of thousands worldwide take that action annually, many of them assuming the persona of…
…“The Ex-Spouse” or “The Ex-Lover” who “cannot go on” or who “does not want to go on” because a “relationship” has happened. (In the U.S., 59% of all women, and 41% of all men, are killed during “relationship breakups.” Often, those involve murder / suicides.)
…“The Ex Employee” who “cannot go on” or who “does not want to go on” because employment has ended.
…“The Ex Student” who “cannot go on” or who “does not want to go on” because of academic failure.
And the list could go on and on. Trapped in personality, such persons devalue the Am-ness and bring the manifestation to an end. While the case of (a) those who devalue the Am-ness because of job or relationship personas might seem to be quite different from (b) those who overvalue the THAT-ness and devalue the Am-ness after assuming religious and spiritual personas, the fact is that the results are exactly the same for both groups.
To claim Realization and then to live out the relative existence by adopting religious or spiritual personas that play religious games or spiritual games leaves those persons as far removed from Reality as those who want to die or those who kill themselves because of the personas they have adopted.
Among Nisargans, there is but one “justification” for completion of the complete “journey” to Full Realization: to overlay Reality upon the relative existence, to stop trying to live in an unnatural / supernatural fashion, and to abide naturally for the remainder of the manifestation of the consciousness.
The Ultimate Medicine first addresses misery and suffering and then paves the way for bliss to be relished during the relative, post-Realization Am-ness (which is the only opportunity during which that can happen and during which it can be known to be happening).
Why even seek the understanding that can bring bliss if it is not understood that the only chance to know and appreciate and experience the bliss is now, even as there is no delusion about there being any “knower” or “appreciater” or “experiencer”?
See, the Realized Nisargan contemplated the Absolute and the Void in order to undo all of the relative nonsense and ignorance and insanity that resulted from programming and conditioning; now, though, there is no occupation or preoccupation or involvement with THAT or with anything coming out of THAT. The understanding has led to an abidance as the natural state with stability...not with any going into or coming out of a samadhi state.
Maharaj: Everything is flowing out of that state, but this principle does not claim anything, is not involved in anything that is coming out of it, but this beingness is available…. This is a very, very, rare, natural samadhi state, the most natural state....
Once the nonsense is undone, all unnatural living ends and all efforts to live supernaturally (a.k.a., magically, religiously, spiritually, etc.) also end. Once all of that is undone, then natural living just happens.
Thus, “floyd” lived unnaturally and supernaturally when moving along the “path” as a seeker, but once Realization happened, then all of that ended. Today, abidance happens naturally and spontaneously, as with the deer.
How occupied do you think a deer is with anything other than the immediate Am-ness? If you have not moved beyond the third step of a seven-step “journey” to Full Realization, then it is your “mind,” with its programming-and-conditioning-generated-content, that functions as a time machine.
If you have not moved beyond the third step of a seven-step “journey” to Full Realization, then memories transport you to the past while imaginings move you into what you take the future to be. The past will churn up guilt and a sense of loss; the future will churn up desires and fears.
If you have not moved beyond the third step of a seven-step “journey” to Full Realization, you will remain trapped in the seeking of continuity and reward, and you will be saddled with supernatural thinking and unnatural behaviors:
kneeling and rising, praying and humming, burning scents and chanting chants, showing off what you take to be your elevated level of enlightenment and your “higher consciousness.”
If you have not moved beyond the third step of a seven-step “journey” to Full Realization, you cannot function spontaneously in the moment. You cannot live naturally. You cannot just be, now. You cannot enjoy stability for it will not manifest.
It is a fool who mistakes the dawn for the noon. “They” fooled you in the beginning. If you have accepted re-programming in a group, “they” have fooled you again. At some point, you have taken over and are now fooling yourself. The invitation here is to cast aside their concepts, to stop allowing them to fool you, and to stop fooling yourself.
Seek facts, not supposition. Seek rationality, not emotional intoxication. Seek truth and stop accepting their falsehoods as fact. Seek wisdom rather than religious or spiritual knowledge (a.k.a., learned ignorance). Seek the natural rather than the unnatural and the supernatural.
If you read a book by a world famous author and are sure you now “have it,” but eventually prove that you did not have it at all because soon you are looking for a book by another famous author to give you “the missing piece / peace,” then you will never know the stability of understanding THAT and then enjoying the Am-ness fully.
You will forever be “The Seeker” or "The Seeker Who Is Convinced He / She Has Found," but you will never be the one that really found Truth and peace and harmony and stability. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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LIBERATION[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of
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CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
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