Saturday, May 26, 2012

ANSWERING QUESTIONS RECEIVED, Part Sixteen

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F.: Several weeks ago during a Skype session with a man in Europe who is using that venue to complete the seven steps, the discussion turned to "continuity" and then to "discontinuity" and to "infinite continuity."

CONTINUITY:
The pointer was offered that, once the consciousness manifests, it desires continuity. When clarification of that point was requested, it was explained that the beingness automatically introduces the first desire (which is the most basic, subconscious desire): namely, to be .... and, next, to keep being.

Of course, whenever earth elements and air and specks of conscious-energy come together to form a composite unity - be that composite labeled a bird, a fish, a deer, a human, etc. - that manifestation knows that it is, knows the beingness, and desires that the beingness never end.

Non-Realized persons want to live as long as they can. Maharaj points out that there is something to be said for facing relative obstacles and enduring, but he did not stop there. He said: " ... disease and suffering are not natural. There is noble virtue in unshakable endurance of whatever comes, but there is also dignity in the refusal of meaningless torture and humiliation."

The next question raised by the man during that Skype session was this: "But what is wrong with wanting to live? It seems wanting to live would be natural and that wanting to die or to commit suicide would be unnatural."

The reply: "Do not try to apply absolute rules to relative situations. Yes it is natural to want to live, but the point is that it is insane - and therefore unnatural - to find torture and humiliation and the indignity of various forms of endless suffering to be acceptable. But there are even other consequences as well:

"If you want to live forever, then you will believe the words of false prophets who tell you that you will live forever and that you will either be punished forever or rewarded forever. They will inspire you to try to live supernaturally, that is, unnaturally.

"They will ask you to give them money for as long as you live. They will tell you that you must meet with them regularly so that they can tell you over and over and over again exactly how you should live and think and talk and behave.

"They will tell you that ancient myths and superstitions are fact, trapping you in ignorance and thereafter controlling you (a) by generating fear and (b) by dangling the carrot of the conscious-energy's desire for continuity and thereby controlling you via your desires.

"They will tell you that if you are 'good' - per their definition of 'good' - that 'you will then be blessed, now and forevermore.' The ego loves to believe it is 'good'; then, egotism promotes each ego-state to the rank of "better than," so it will be programmed to brag constantly that it is being blessed in order to demonstrate to all just how very good the bragger is (and ever how much better than others the bragger is, as evidenced by all of the blessings that he / she is receiving which they are not). Yet there is no one who has ever been blessed because there is no 'one' to be blessed and because there is no 'Blesser' to bless. Why is that so?

Because elements cannot be blessed, air cannot be blessed, and energy cannot be blessed. And because energy / matter cannot be created or destroyed, there is no 'creator' or 'Creator,' and because there is no 'Creator,' there is no 'Blesser.'

"Finally, consciousness, as a form of energy, will be forever; yet it will not know forever. It will know nothing after it released into the universal field of energy."

Next, consider what is infinite as the "infinite continuity" is explained this way:

INFINITE CONTINUITY:
Infinite continuity points toward a universe or universes that are limitless, unmanifested reality in which mass, events, and concepts like "time" seem to appear and seem to be real as the result of a belief in duality whereby imagined distinctions are assumed to be real. Infinite continuity makes clear that all is one, that Reality / Consciousness / Awareness is all there is, and that nothing exists separate and apart from That Reality. There are no parts that are connected or interrelated. There are no parts at all. Nothing is relating. Conscious-energy / Awareness is All there Is. Only the Realized, knowing that truth, know the continuity ... know what continues and what does not; persons, not knowing the continuity are trapped in their perspectives of duality and believe in separation and the judgment that always accompanies the belief that they are apart from. The result of the belief in being apart from is (a) the misery of feeling disconnected or (b) the ego / arrogance of being "good" or "better" and eventually "the best." Ego inspires more misery and all that persons call "relationship problems" in the relative.

Energy / matter is continuous. Nothing that comes about when energy / matter takes on "this form" or "that form" is continuous. The composite unity - for example, the physical body here that is called "floyd" - is comprised of temporarily-combined elements and temporarily-manifested conscious-energy, and the elements are circulating air for a time.

The air and elements and energy will be continuous - forever - but the body will not; nor will there be any remnant of that composite unity post-manifestation ... nothing gauzy, nothing invisible, nothing with wings, nothing that will be recognized, and nothing that will recognize anyone or anything.

If the infinite continuity is not understood, then a sense of "discontinuity" will prevail because the unicity will not be understood. It is to be seen that there will be no continuity of body, mind, or personality or space or form. Additionally, it should be understood that a sense of discontinuity happens when persons are deceived:

DISCONTINUITY:
Persons look one way on the outside (the image) but feel another way on the inside; persons feel “torn into pieces” and thus suffer the misery of discontinuity which happens when they try to combine the real with image. No image is real but is nevertheless taken by persons to be real as a result of “not being true to Self.” The illusion of discontinuity is especially taken to be real when a form that was once observable is no longer observable, such as happens when persons claim someone “died”; in fact, nothing was created and nothing was destroyed. Elements cycled. They came together for awhile; then they came apart. All that seems observable is not what it appears to be at all. All appearance is illusion. The belief by persons that “appearances are real” will set the stage for persons to be trapped in the illusion of discontinuity and thus fail to know the unicity. From that perspective, persons will wrongly perceive that they are split, disconnected, separate and apart from. Sensing that they are disjointed and not whole, they will assume that they are in need of someone (or "Some One") to make them feel whole or connected. Dependency and co-dependency follow. Needs and wants and desires that always accompany fears will begin to drive persons. Destructive behaviors—that erroneously appear to persons in the relative to be constructive—will happen.


The invitation is to find that which really is forever and then be done with all of the rest, allowing you / You to enjoy the pleasures and bliss that the relative existence can offer to those that are truly and totally and absolutely free.

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