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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
F.: It should be seen, therefore, that there is at the most basic level a primary teaching, a single core issue, that distinguishes (a) the Advaitin Direct Path Method and the Nisargan’s Yoga from (b) all organized religions, from most spirituality-based programs, from most spirituality-based philosophies, from religion-based ideologies, and from religion-based cults:
specifically, the differentiation lies in the belief in the concept of “continuity” on the one hand versus the Nisargan’s understanding of the scientifically-provable factuality of discontinuity.
Organized religion, most spirituality-based programs, most spirituality-based philosophies, religion-based ideologies, and religion-based cults all teach that the concept of continuity is real…that the body-mind-personality triad will last forever, either literally or in some form or another.
THE DECEIT OF BODY CONTINUITY
The billions of religious people who call themselves “Jews,” “Christians,” or "Muslims" speak of the punishing torture of “eternal flames,” revealing their belief that a physical body exists post-manifestation...a body with a system of nerves being required for such pain to register.
Again, Tiemersma’s pointer in this regard is relevant in discussing the claim that “body continuity is possible”: "They [religions and systems of philosophies] …couch into fine-sounding words their traditional beliefs and ideologies, theological or philosophical. Believers, however, discover the limited range of meaning and applicability of these words, sooner or later.”
Actually, because of the force of programming and conditioning, most persons will never actually “discover”; however, some will question, as happened in the following case:
Questioner: “Your particular religion buries bodies, treating the corpse as something special. Why?”
Pastor: “Because, just as our Lord died and was resurrected, so too shall all people die but then they will be regenerated in order to face God for judgment. They shall stand before Him and be held accountable and found to be deserving of eternal reward or eternal punishment.”
Questioner: “So you believe that decayed flesh can regroup and form the exact same original body?”
Pastor: “At ‘The End Times,’ all dead bodies will be reformed and reanimated.”
Questioner: “So you really believe that decayed flesh can truly regroup and be reformed and be the exact same original body that existed earlier?”
Pastor: “You must understand also that there is 'a soul' that is distinct from the physical matter.”
Questioner: “So if a soul is distinct from physical matter, how could it feel physical pain in what you call ‘the fires of hell’?”
Pastor: “There are mysteries that cannot be understood by man but will be made clear after the end of the world. For now, we thrive in our faith, which you seem to lack.”
The irony is that, upon thorough questioning, it is revealed that those claiming to believe what they believe with such unwavering "faith" really do not know what they believe. The limited range of meaning and applicability of their words becomes clear when a thorough interrogation moves them beyond the platitudes that they offer to their followers who have been conditioned to question nothing.
Maharaj said that someday science would advance to the degree that it would support the Advaitin teachings. As for the science that disproves the concept of continuity and proves the law of discontinuity, this explanation was posted several years ago on this site when the masses in the U.S. were shocked that a bridge would fall down:
All change happens as a result of the Laws of Thermodynamics and Atrophy and all change is natural, no matter how much those who believe in—and long for—continuity might disagree.
By nature, all except that which You Truly Are is limited and finite. The Law of Thermodynamics says that everything in the relative—including situations and relationships and bridges—is dynamic and changing. Elements that happen to “come together” cannot “stay together” permanently, just as a so-called human "form" or "space" will not be a permanent form and just as the manifested consciousness will not manifest permanently. The elements will eventually return to the universal pool of elements and the conscious-energy will return to the universal pool of energy.
The Law of Entropy says that elements disorganize and organize and disorganize again. Even the elements organized by humans into what they call a "bridge" will disorganize...naturally and automatically and on their own. This Second Law of Thermodynamics says that everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, and wears out all by itself. It is a law of nature. Everything in the relative deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, and wears out…all by itself. The basic elements and the energy will remain, but no “relative combinings” are permanent. That applies to bridges and to marriages, to cars and to courtships, to computers and to possessions.
(It also applies to human bodies. To continue):
The Law of Atrophy, or The Law of Reduction, says that all forms shall waste away, wither, or deteriorate. That includes plants, animals, human bodies, bridges, and relationships. Only the basic elements and the energy remain, but no forms perceived to be "real" will last.
Again, this point: the preachings / teachings that claim there is eternal body continuity and either eternal reward or eternal punishment cannot be proven; to the contrary, the law of discontinuity is substantiated scientifically; in fact, there is no continuity of a body during the manifestation, much less after manifestation.
It is the Direct Path Method, combined with the Nisarga Yoga and supported by scientifc evidence, that offers the understanding that continuity is not real, that the concept of continuity is a figment of imagination and memory, and that discontinuity is the provable law. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
specifically, the differentiation lies in the belief in the concept of “continuity” on the one hand versus the Nisargan’s understanding of the scientifically-provable factuality of discontinuity.
Organized religion, most spirituality-based programs, most spirituality-based philosophies, religion-based ideologies, and religion-based cults all teach that the concept of continuity is real…that the body-mind-personality triad will last forever, either literally or in some form or another.
THE DECEIT OF BODY CONTINUITY
The billions of religious people who call themselves “Jews,” “Christians,” or "Muslims" speak of the punishing torture of “eternal flames,” revealing their belief that a physical body exists post-manifestation...a body with a system of nerves being required for such pain to register.
Again, Tiemersma’s pointer in this regard is relevant in discussing the claim that “body continuity is possible”: "They [religions and systems of philosophies] …couch into fine-sounding words their traditional beliefs and ideologies, theological or philosophical. Believers, however, discover the limited range of meaning and applicability of these words, sooner or later.”
Actually, because of the force of programming and conditioning, most persons will never actually “discover”; however, some will question, as happened in the following case:
Questioner: “Your particular religion buries bodies, treating the corpse as something special. Why?”
Pastor: “Because, just as our Lord died and was resurrected, so too shall all people die but then they will be regenerated in order to face God for judgment. They shall stand before Him and be held accountable and found to be deserving of eternal reward or eternal punishment.”
Questioner: “So you believe that decayed flesh can regroup and form the exact same original body?”
Pastor: “At ‘The End Times,’ all dead bodies will be reformed and reanimated.”
Questioner: “So you really believe that decayed flesh can truly regroup and be reformed and be the exact same original body that existed earlier?”
Pastor: “You must understand also that there is 'a soul' that is distinct from the physical matter.”
Questioner: “So if a soul is distinct from physical matter, how could it feel physical pain in what you call ‘the fires of hell’?”
Pastor: “There are mysteries that cannot be understood by man but will be made clear after the end of the world. For now, we thrive in our faith, which you seem to lack.”
The irony is that, upon thorough questioning, it is revealed that those claiming to believe what they believe with such unwavering "faith" really do not know what they believe. The limited range of meaning and applicability of their words becomes clear when a thorough interrogation moves them beyond the platitudes that they offer to their followers who have been conditioned to question nothing.
Maharaj said that someday science would advance to the degree that it would support the Advaitin teachings. As for the science that disproves the concept of continuity and proves the law of discontinuity, this explanation was posted several years ago on this site when the masses in the U.S. were shocked that a bridge would fall down:
All change happens as a result of the Laws of Thermodynamics and Atrophy and all change is natural, no matter how much those who believe in—and long for—continuity might disagree.
By nature, all except that which You Truly Are is limited and finite. The Law of Thermodynamics says that everything in the relative—including situations and relationships and bridges—is dynamic and changing. Elements that happen to “come together” cannot “stay together” permanently, just as a so-called human "form" or "space" will not be a permanent form and just as the manifested consciousness will not manifest permanently. The elements will eventually return to the universal pool of elements and the conscious-energy will return to the universal pool of energy.
The Law of Entropy says that elements disorganize and organize and disorganize again. Even the elements organized by humans into what they call a "bridge" will disorganize...naturally and automatically and on their own. This Second Law of Thermodynamics says that everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, and wears out all by itself. It is a law of nature. Everything in the relative deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, and wears out…all by itself. The basic elements and the energy will remain, but no “relative combinings” are permanent. That applies to bridges and to marriages, to cars and to courtships, to computers and to possessions.
(It also applies to human bodies. To continue):
The Law of Atrophy, or The Law of Reduction, says that all forms shall waste away, wither, or deteriorate. That includes plants, animals, human bodies, bridges, and relationships. Only the basic elements and the energy remain, but no forms perceived to be "real" will last.
Again, this point: the preachings / teachings that claim there is eternal body continuity and either eternal reward or eternal punishment cannot be proven; to the contrary, the law of discontinuity is substantiated scientifically; in fact, there is no continuity of a body during the manifestation, much less after manifestation.
It is the Direct Path Method, combined with the Nisarga Yoga and supported by scientifc evidence, that offers the understanding that continuity is not real, that the concept of continuity is a figment of imagination and memory, and that discontinuity is the provable law. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
You may visit The Official Website of Floyd Henderson for information on each book.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
