IDENTIFICATION: Something, or No thing? Part Three

[EXCERPTS from the soon-to-be-released book FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS]

FROM A SITE VISITOR: No identity at all? Everybody is SOMETHING, and whatever that SOMETHING is, is our identity.

F.: Most who read pointers dealing with zero concepts (as offered by some Direct Path Advaita Teachers and by some “Neo-Advaitins”), will feel as if they are dying or being robbed of their “true identity.” Some will feel that their “true identity” is being minimized and not recognized for the glorious post-manifestation "SOMETHING" that it is...all “heavenly” and “celestial” and “splendid”…maybe even “saintly” or “godly” or “cherubic” or “spiritual” or “divine” or “holy” or "something" which they believe will be "even above and beyond" all of that.

Some resent the implication that their relevance, either during the relative manifestation or after the relative manifestation, is being decreased or diminished or underestimated. They hate the suggestion that to have taken themselves and their beliefs seriously for so many years was all nonsense. They hate hearing that their years of fighting for their causes were uselessly passed in vain and were steeped in egotism and efforts to support their false identities/ego-states.

They hate hearing that their entire existence is all much ado about nothing. They despise being told that they have been fooled. They hate pointers dealing with purposelessness and meaninglessness. They hate pointers which suggest that all of those times when they made mountains out of molehills was pure foolishness. They hate the notion of "nothingness" and thrive on all their concepts that deal with "somethingness." They hate hearing their their beliefs and their concepts are fiction.

They hate when their dualistic belief in their own eternal reward is exposed as a fraud or when their belief in an eternal punishment for their enemies is debunked. They bristle when it is pointed out that their "life-long" attempts to defend their various concepts have amounted to nothing more than a waste of breath.

They hate to hear that the energy spent in trying to make their views understood and accepted was for naught. They can become livid when it is noted that their actions (which earned applause from the masses who considered those actions to be “accomplishments”) were for nil. They despise the pointer that no one has ever "made the world a better place" as a result of any action.

They are offended when it is suggested that the naming of streets after them, that the building of statues in their honor, and that the construction of libraries built to laud their "achievements" amount to just so much rubbish. They reject any suggestion that the desire to extend in perpetuity the memory of them and their “identity” is mere tripe.

Similarly, the following pointer was offered to the seeker who raised the issue of “SOMETHING” in defense of his “identity,” desiring as he does to verify it and to be assured that it will be extended in perpetuity:

Whether your identity is of a phenomenal nature or a noumenal nature in your “mind,” your preoccupation with it is evidence of the fact that you hold in esteem either that which you currently believe you are, or that SOMETHING which you think you shall be forever, or both. In fact, when a "state" of zero concepts is reached, it is understood that there is no "identity" at all. It is also realized from that "state" that there is nothing deserving any esteem at all, contrary to the tendency among the non-Realized to demand that they be shown “the honor they deserve.”

The pointer offered earlier was that “there's no identity to be concerned with at all.” Another pointer is offered for those seekers who would reach the "next level" of understanding and who are capable of reaching the zero concepts "state":

“Absolute,” “THAT,” “Brahman,” “God,” “energy,” “energy-matter,” “Consciousness,” “Awareness,” and “SOMETHING” are still man-made labels generated by persons; however, since Awareness is not even aware of awareness, what justification can be offered for being “concerned” with any of those labels, if Fully Realized?

The concept of “SOMETHING” blocks the understanding of what is most pervasive in this universe (and in all universes). What is most pervasive? Not something but…no-thing. The physical body of a human is neither “primarily energy” nor “primarily matter.” It is primarily space, primarily a void, and can thereby serve as a microcosm of the universe which is primarily space, primarily nothingness, primarily no-thingness.

Similar to every bridge that will eventually be reduced to rubble, a couple of hundred pounds of “floyd” will be reduced to a few pounds of ash. That which is mainly “space” is misperceived by the non-Realized as being “something.”

Typically, "the nothing" is neither seen nor understand as persons show deference to, and preference for, “something.” Only for "the most advanced" is this pointer offered: if the nothingness is understood, then not an iota of attention is wasted with concern about the “SOMETHING” the seeker mentioned.

At "the peak" of understanding, it is realized that “concern” with a post-manifestation identity is just so much silliness. Persons who focus on “SOMETHINGS” become “concerned,” and "concern" about anything will generate unnatural or supernatural thinking and living. All “concerns” prevent peace and natural living from happening. If an excess of energy is available, employ it to realize all that you are not if you would eliminate insane-like thoughts and words and deeds and relative destructiveness from an otherwise ego-dominated existence.

To focus on the concept of “SOMETHING” prevents seeing “The Reality of the Emptiness,” “The Reality of the Void,” “The Reality of the Nothingness.” All “mind”-stuff attached to “somethingness” will preempt any understanding of the no-concept, non-dual, no-thing Reality.

Peace and happiness only happen...(continued in the book)

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Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued on Friday)
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IDENTIFICATION: Something, or No thing? Part Two

[EXCERPTS from the soon-to-be-released book FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS]

FROM A SITE VISITOR: No identity at all? Everybody is SOMETHING, and whatever that SOMETHING is, is our identity.

F.: Again, the postings in this series are not for the beginner. Beginners cannot move from some point that is even before step one of a seven-step “journey” to Realization (that Realization coming at the seventh step) without understanding many paradoxes that are presented at each of the steps in between.

They will first see what they think they see; they must next understand that everything that they have ever thought they were seeing was not that at all; afterwards, they must see all of the false in order to prepare for seeing the Real; and then only can they finally fixate firmly in the no-concept, non-dual Reality.

Thereafter, they can be truly free while abiding as the Absolute; can abide as Awareness that is not even aware of awareness; and can thereby live in a natural, AS IF fashion…at peace for the remainder of the manifestation. The exhaustion of living unnaturally ends, as does the toil of trying to live in a supernatural fashion. Only if abiding as the Awareness that is not aware of awareness can natural (nisarga) unencumbered living happen, spontaneously. Disciplines and considerations end. Toiling and working and searching and seeking end.

Ultimately, to try to support any “identity” alongside “the no-concept, non-dual Reality” is itself contradictory. At the “highest level” of understanding, any identity is also seen to be conceptual. Preoccupation with identifying “what the generic THAT is” becomes another concern that can continue to disturb even those who have transitioned kindergarten spirituality, who have understood the I AM, and who know the True Self but are not functioning as the unaware Awareness.

"Bliss" is merely an undisturbed, unconcerned vibration. Preoccupations and concerns activate a disturbance when the natural vibrational pattern of anything is forced to shift. Apply what is happening to the phenomenal planet to grasp what can happen to the phenomenal body-“mind” under those conditions: because ice caps are melting as a result of global warming, a slight tilt is happening along the axis of the globe. That is triggering not only all of the physically-observable results on the planet but is also generating mental and emotional effects on life forms as well.

When vibrational patterns shift from natural to unnatural movements, phenomenal effects result because of the disturbance of that which is natural. Only the natural vibrational pattern of Awareness will allow “bliss” to happen (again, “bliss” being nothing more than that undisturbed, unconcerned vibration mentioned earlier).

At the “highest level,” having understood the no-concept, non-dual Reality completely, WHO/WHAT remains to be concerned with any “identity” or to be disturbed by not being able to apply another man-made label to the man-made pointer called "THAT"?

Persons are so sure of all they believe. After being challenged to question it all and not being so sure, they nevertheless return to that state of being certain at the third step on the "path" after assuming religious or spiritual roles. Many at that point think that they have found the “Advaita Understanding.” They have not. They have substituted one egotism-generating belief system for another. They are mistaking the dawn for high noon.

The ultimate Advaita understanding is that there need not be any understanding. (Again, that pointer is not for the beginner.) Yet AS IF living (based in the no concept, non-dual Reality) is seldom modeled among “humans”; thus, one need not look there to find examples of such "living." Look to nature instead.

True AS IF living is a mode of natural living, modeled in nature by...(continued in the book)

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IDENTIFICATION: Something, or No Thing? Part One

[Excerpts from the soon-to-be-released book FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS]

FROM A SITE VISITOR: No identity at all? Everybody is SOMETHING, and whatever that SOMETHING is, is our identity.

F.: [Today’s post is again for those seekers who have completed, or almost completed, the “journey” to Full Realization. Some pointers will not be relevant for beginners.]

First, the way in which you use the word “identity” would need to be clarified, and there are likely some additional subconscious usages that you are not even aware of. Do you mean “the distinct personality of an individual regarded as a persisting entity”? Realized Advaitins understand that there is no personality and that no entity persists.

Or do you mean, “the individual characteristics by which a thing or person is recognized or known”? Realized Advaitins know that “the individual” is a bogus concept, that “characteristics” are fiction since they deal with personality, and that persons/personas are nothing more than assumptions generated via corrupted consciousness.

Or do you mean, “That which describes objects in a manner that distinguishes them from other objects”? Realized Advaitins understand that “one as opposed to others” is dualistic and thus false.

You likely are not referring to “the individual sense of importance in a social context,” but might you be referring to “self-knowledge about one's characteristics or personality,” that is, to “a sense of self”? Surely not.

So consider: if you are referring to “True Self-knowledge or to “a sense of True Self,” then you are still dealing with a false identity. How could that possibly be false? Because the terms “True Self” or “Real Self” are frequently misused (even by many Advaitins or would-be Advaitins). Many now use the terms to point to the noumenon or to the Absolute in an effort to support the existence of a Self-cum-continuity even while agreeing that no self can have continuity.

Likely, your stance is that, while the phenomenal is that which is physically manifested and observable by one or more of the five senses, some other sense is employed to recognize that an identifiable Self exists beyond physical manifestation. At the elementary level, when a protégé is taking the first steps on the “path” to Realization, that idea is often allowed by teachers.

At the more advanced level, though, it is understood that the True Self is merely the second of two witnessing modes, the pure or re-purified consciousness that knows ItSelf and knows the Oneness (as opposed to subject-object witnessing). That Pure Witnessing Consciousness sees no “others” and is incapable of any dualistic misperception, yet it’s entire functioning is still dependent upon its manifestation. Thus, even that “True Self” is limited and is not an "eternal identity."

Further, that “True Self” is not “God,” though many who have morphed this philosophy into a religion will defend that Self-God concept as well. Instead, the True Self is merely that pure consciousness which can look to the phenomenon and know that it is not as perceived, which can know that no self is real, and which can understand that no noumenal “Self with identity” exists either.

The pure consciousness understands that when the pronoun “I” is employed as the pure consciousness speaks, it refers to that which is beyond beingness and beyond non-beingness; therefore, it is beyond “I-ness” and identity as well. Krishna was very direct in stating that any who do not understand that are “fools.” That which is beyond beingness and non-beingless must also be beyond self, Self, self-ness, Self-ness, no-self-ness, and even no-Self-ness.

Of course, that pointer about "fools" is misunderstood by most, understood by few, and hated by many. For those still trapped in the egotism that is generated by accepting and defending an identity (whether that might be an identity “now” or an identity “later”), let it be said that they have at least been fooled and continue to function from within that condition. The primary consideration must be, "How can the state of zero concepts...(continued in the book)

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