Monday, March 29, 2010

PLEASURE-PAIN vs. BLISS, Part Two, The Conclusion

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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.

F.: So, questions and comments in e-mails have revealed that the Nisargan teachings are misunderstood by some in regards to pleasure, pain, misery, suffering, and bliss as well as in terms of how the natural, post-Realization abidance unfolds.

While bliss has to do with the Realization of the nothingness, pleasure has to do with something…with something in the relative existence. The deer that pause in the front yard here can be seen enjoying the pleasure of grazing; they can be seen enjoying the pleasure of shade and rest during the heat of the afternoon;

they have been witnessed while in a clearing in the woods nearby this house as they enjoy the pleasures of sex. All of that is natural, and to avoid that which is natural is unnatural—even when done in the name of being “religious” or “spiritual” or “supernatural”—and is a part of the sickness that is addressed with the Ultimate Medicine.

Abuse yourself with a mace if you like in your efforts to be more religious or spiritual; accept the distorted view that suffering is an asset rather than something unacceptable that is to be addressed and removed and avoided;

eat your bitter herbs or tasteless roots; dip your food in salt water and vinegar; avoid sexual relations; but here, now that natural living is happening spontaneously, the pleasures of succulent meals will be enjoyed:

tasks that are to happen for sustenance shall happen, but the pleasures of rest will also be enjoyed; deprive yourself of the joys of sex if you want, but here, all natural things will continue to happen and be enjoyed.

Consider how truly sick and distorted and insane any teachings or beliefs are if they drive persons to abide in a painful, miserable, pleasureless manner. Functioning in either (A) the unnatural extreme of unfettered hedonism and “self”-indulgence or functioning in

(B) a manner at the opposite extreme of the spectrum that involves total deprivation in the name of being “religious” or “spiritual” or “better” or “better than” or “improved” might be (and is) considered supernatural living by many, but such a manner of living will not be considered natural by the sane and sound and stable and Realized.

Unnatural and supernatural living will only be mistakenly seen as a natural means of living by those functioning under the auspices of a warped mind and warped personas that are driven by personality (or personalities) and by the defects and disorders that personality always generates.

Finally, understand that pleasure and pain and misery and suffering and bliss are the “stuff” of NOW only—the “stuff” of the limited period of manifestation during the relative existence—and the relative existence will happen in a natural manner if Reality is overlaid upon it.

To make clear, there will be no post-manifestation pleasure or pain or misery or suffering or bliss. NOW, is the only time that pleasures can be enjoyed in a non-destructive and non-self-destructive fashion among the sane and stable;

NOW is the time that misery and suffering can be eliminated if you take the Ultimate Medicine that dissolves the "mind" but leaves the brain and consciousness and natural instincts in tact so that natural, spontaneous abidance can happen;

And NOW is the only time that the bliss can be understood. To that end, here are some pointers offered previously about bliss, which is probably misunderstood more than any of the other teachings:

Bliss is freedom from all thoughts

Bliss is a no-need state, a state where no needs are felt at any time, where nothing is useful for anything (Maharaj)

Bliss is being free of desires and fears though natural drives such as thirst and hunger and sex will continue to happen

Bliss is compatibility with nature, observable when freedom from anxiety and tension and discontentment are gone and when there is no drive or desire to harm or kill (be it birds or animals or pets or frogs or crickets or humans or entire species or entire races or all of the members of a religion that is not one’s own)

Bliss is freedom from the false sense of being split, divided, separated, incomplete

As Louise wrote: Bliss is what follows having been immersed in this “River of Truth”; bliss is having been exposed to the “bubbles of dissolution” that allow for identification with the nothingness until even that identity falls away; bliss is “the absence of the filter of a suffering individual”

Bliss is abiding as that original, natural state without any “trace of an individual”

Maharaj taught: “To know one's Real Self is bliss” and “Bliss is more of the nature of a great peace”

Maharaj said, “Don't say that you are an individual; just stay in the beingness. The whole problem is the sense of being a separate entity. Once that subsides, that is true bliss”

Bliss is not continuous, rapturous joy and has nothing to do with “birth and rebirth” or with cycle-after-cycle or “being better” or “getting better” or “being more and more pure”

Bliss is being Love while also being nothing.

Please enter the silence of contemplation.

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