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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
[Continued from yesterday]
FROM A SITE VISITOR: f, As If living is the norm now, but occasionally something will be seen that will bring about feelings of outrage. Must be the last stubborn "justice" or "fairness" persona? Mind still exists?
F.:There is something more happening here, however, that is all too typical: as noted on this site time and again, no seeker can complete the entire seven-step “journey” from identification with the false I to an understanding of the Absolute without a willingness to question, meaning…
…to question all beliefs, all ideas, all concepts, all dogma, all so-called spiritual teachings, to question everything one has ever been taught, to question all content of the “mind,” and to challenge every effect of programming and conditioning and acculturation and domestication.
Yet there must come a time when questioning the false ends and the solid assurance of knowing You have finally seen Truth and Reality begins. That is what happens during the post-peripetia period of the manifestation.
However, if the peripetia [see the March 27, 2010 post] has not happened completely—if there is not a 100% conviction that it has all been just so much nonsense and BS—then more questioning and additional investigation and further S-O witnessing and more seeking will happen.
When that happens, there will often be a “stepping back” along the “path” that is induced by one or more ego-states that have not yet been fully abandoned. Fully Realized, there is no requirement for further evidence that there is no Truth to be found in the relative;
that persons are insane; that persons are functioning under the auspices of personality defects, and that—to use Maharaj’s word—there is vast “stupidity” among the non-Realized masses that is observable. If the 100% understanding does not come and is not then transcended, then more and more evidence and examples will be sought.
At the level of Pure Witnessing, there will be no more projecting of one's own ignorance to "others." Yes, the cataloguing of examples of ignorance and insanity must happen on the “journey,” but it must also end at some point.
There is a familial relative who watches the news constantly and points out the ignorance of “others” without seeing her own. She was asked, "How many examples of insanity do you need to witness and repeat until you get it, once and for all…until you know for a fact that such is indeed the warped condition of the masses?"
Again, though, it is fact that such accumulating of evidence of the condition of the masses and all of that witnessing of personality defects and insanity must happen in the earlier stages (which must also include a witnessing of "one's own self / selves" and the defects there as well).
Here’s the way it was explained to one seeker that was just entering into the willingness-to-witness-his-own-ignorance-due-to-programming-stage in addition to the witnessing-of-"their"-ignorance-greed-insanity-stage:
“It means you are beginning to question and therefore beginning to see. You are reviewing the vast quantity of lies and nonsense that you were made to wallow in after having been tossed into “their” pigpen of concepts. Seeing that, witnessing it without a need to react to it, will allow you to be free of belief in all of “their” nonsense.
“In order for the full extent of freedom that awaits You to manifest, however, does not require that you judge anyone, resent anyone, or try to destroy anyone. Quite to the contrary, in fact. When I saw how I had been lied to on every count, the sense of relief and freedom that swelled within me forced laughter to replace the decades of tears and fears that "their" programming had generated. The relief from guilt and dogma and concepts and distortion and ignorance was so well-received that any feelings about the way "their" ideas had imprisoned me fell away.
“I met a man who had been imprisoned in the Hanoi Hilton. When he was released, he was so happy in his new state of freedom that he never wanted to go back there. [See? He did not take steps back along the "path."] He never thought he needed to go back to Vietnam and find again the people who had picked him up after he parachuted into a field near their village so they could once again turn him over to the authorities for additional imprisonment. He was just damn glad to be free.”
At some point, if the full peripetia manifests completely, then You will no longer feel an urge to find more examples of insanity and ignorance and greed and meanness for You will have found your own past insanity and ignorance; witnessing will indeed continue, but insanity and ignorance will be observed without the triggering of emotional intoxication;
You will understand how insanity and ignorance were forced upon you with no choice on your part; will have become free of the influence of insanity and ignorance; and You will then relax into that same joy of being damn glad to be free.
After that, all will happen spontaneously, in a nisarga fashion. It will be AS IF you have walked quietly up to the deer that is lying among the trees and is resting in the cool blue shade, AS IF you have lain beside it, and AS IF you are both merely witnessing without agenda or motive while abiding side-by-side in a most natural fashion.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
…to question all beliefs, all ideas, all concepts, all dogma, all so-called spiritual teachings, to question everything one has ever been taught, to question all content of the “mind,” and to challenge every effect of programming and conditioning and acculturation and domestication.
Yet there must come a time when questioning the false ends and the solid assurance of knowing You have finally seen Truth and Reality begins. That is what happens during the post-peripetia period of the manifestation.
However, if the peripetia [see the March 27, 2010 post] has not happened completely—if there is not a 100% conviction that it has all been just so much nonsense and BS—then more questioning and additional investigation and further S-O witnessing and more seeking will happen.
When that happens, there will often be a “stepping back” along the “path” that is induced by one or more ego-states that have not yet been fully abandoned. Fully Realized, there is no requirement for further evidence that there is no Truth to be found in the relative;
that persons are insane; that persons are functioning under the auspices of personality defects, and that—to use Maharaj’s word—there is vast “stupidity” among the non-Realized masses that is observable. If the 100% understanding does not come and is not then transcended, then more and more evidence and examples will be sought.
At the level of Pure Witnessing, there will be no more projecting of one's own ignorance to "others." Yes, the cataloguing of examples of ignorance and insanity must happen on the “journey,” but it must also end at some point.
There is a familial relative who watches the news constantly and points out the ignorance of “others” without seeing her own. She was asked, "How many examples of insanity do you need to witness and repeat until you get it, once and for all…until you know for a fact that such is indeed the warped condition of the masses?"
Again, though, it is fact that such accumulating of evidence of the condition of the masses and all of that witnessing of personality defects and insanity must happen in the earlier stages (which must also include a witnessing of "one's own self / selves" and the defects there as well).
Here’s the way it was explained to one seeker that was just entering into the willingness-to-witness-his-own-ignorance-due-to-programming-stage in addition to the witnessing-of-"their"-ignorance-greed-insanity-stage:
“It means you are beginning to question and therefore beginning to see. You are reviewing the vast quantity of lies and nonsense that you were made to wallow in after having been tossed into “their” pigpen of concepts. Seeing that, witnessing it without a need to react to it, will allow you to be free of belief in all of “their” nonsense.
“In order for the full extent of freedom that awaits You to manifest, however, does not require that you judge anyone, resent anyone, or try to destroy anyone. Quite to the contrary, in fact. When I saw how I had been lied to on every count, the sense of relief and freedom that swelled within me forced laughter to replace the decades of tears and fears that "their" programming had generated. The relief from guilt and dogma and concepts and distortion and ignorance was so well-received that any feelings about the way "their" ideas had imprisoned me fell away.
“I met a man who had been imprisoned in the Hanoi Hilton. When he was released, he was so happy in his new state of freedom that he never wanted to go back there. [See? He did not take steps back along the "path."] He never thought he needed to go back to Vietnam and find again the people who had picked him up after he parachuted into a field near their village so they could once again turn him over to the authorities for additional imprisonment. He was just damn glad to be free.”
At some point, if the full peripetia manifests completely, then You will no longer feel an urge to find more examples of insanity and ignorance and greed and meanness for You will have found your own past insanity and ignorance; witnessing will indeed continue, but insanity and ignorance will be observed without the triggering of emotional intoxication;
You will understand how insanity and ignorance were forced upon you with no choice on your part; will have become free of the influence of insanity and ignorance; and You will then relax into that same joy of being damn glad to be free.
After that, all will happen spontaneously, in a nisarga fashion. It will be AS IF you have walked quietly up to the deer that is lying among the trees and is resting in the cool blue shade, AS IF you have lain beside it, and AS IF you are both merely witnessing without agenda or motive while abiding side-by-side in a most natural fashion.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
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For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
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3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.