Saturday, August 15, 2009

REAL LOVE vs. “love” or “conditional love”

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F.: If one were to ask the nearly 6.8 billion persons on the planet to define “love,” there could easily be 6.8 billion definitions, evidence that there is no one definition common to all persons and that there is, therefore, no accurate definition at all.

And there never will be an accurate definition of “what love is” by the non-Realized since (a) there is only Real Love and since (b) only the Realized know what that is and since (c) most are not—and never will be—Realized.

Yet all persons think they know what they want in a "relationship," right up until they supposedly attain it, and then things change, as they always do in the relative. To paraphrase Maharaj, “relationships” can never be stable since they are inherently rooted in duality (relationship…relative-ship) with “A” thinking she/he is relating to “B.”

Then, Maharaj’s continuum reveals the cycling: “stranger to acquaintance to friend to lover to spouse to enemy,” ending in a “split”—in “separation”—that sets the stage for more chaos as the “stranger-acquaintance-friend-lover-spouse-enemy” cycle is played out over and over again.

Further, personality will drive each to have a personality-driven desire about “love” and a personality-driven fear about “love”:

One type will desire perfect love, but then fear (and anger and depression) will always manifest when it becomes obvious that the “partner” is far from perfect and that the search for “love” must continue.

The next type will desire to be loved and will seek out those who are broken and need rescuing, believing that the rescuing will guarantee unending gratitude and—therefore—continuous “love.” The fear comes when that scenario plays out with a different ending—“The User” or “The Rescued” eventually moving on to “A Better Provider / Rescuer.”

Another type does not really seek “love,” contrary to their claims. This type is already “in love”—with self—so all this type really wants is admiration, mass approval, applause, affirmation, etc.

The next type has a romanticized view of “what love is,” and that idealized “love” will also seem to come and go. Discontentment is guaranteed unless the freedom and independence of Realization manifests.

Another type will spend years analyzing “love” and concepts and will become almost as self-absorbed as the third type above.

Another type sees “love” as “security,” and really only wants a caretaker. As long as the caretaking continues, so might the “relationship.” Research shows that 50% of the persons on the planet are of this type, so the majority will think that they “in love” (and will fight vehemently with anyone who suggests otherwise) when they are really just “in the dependent care of.”

Another type uses “love” and “people” for fun and adventure and escape, but “commitment” among them is usually avoided.

The eighth type really wants to be surrounded with weaker persons that can be controlled. The concept of “love” to these types is foreign because these types usually function as borderline (or even full-blown) sociopaths when in “relationships”—including "relationships" at work, at home, in traffic, etc.

The last type includes those who believe that they are entitled and that life is supposed to be an all-expense-paid vacation for them. They will only think they are being “loved”—and “loved well”—when someone is paying their bills.

And all of that chaos and arrogance and instability and self-ishness in “relationships” is driven by the basic personality types discussed above. Do you see why teachers have long invited persons to be free of personality?

Is it any wonder that the constant “search for love” generates as much chaos on the planet as the other top-two sources of a sense of separation, namely religion and politics? In the case of “love,” the search is for something that does not exist, so of course there will be constant happy vs. unhappy duality; the constant cycling in and out of “relationships” as noted by Maharaj; and constant frustration and confusion as well.

All of the delusional concepts about “love” among the non-Realized masses are rooted in the Subject-Object perceptions that were discussed in yesterday’s post.

“I just want to be loved” is a planet-wide cry, and it is rooted in early childhood programming and conditioning. Spoiled by parents who were overly indulgent? When that happens, and the indulgence is taken to be “love,” then no one in that child’s later adulthood years will ever be able to give enough to satisfy.

Were parents unavailable, incapable of Love, thus convincing the child that the amount of “love” that should have been received during childhood was not enough? That will also result in what can become a life-long quest for a degree of “love” that will never be found.

Why? Again, because subject-object “love” is not Real Love at all.

Just as persons attempt to accumulate a seemingly unending quantity of relative identities—all of which are fictional—so persons attempt to accumulate an unlimited quantity of “love” (which is also fictional).

Want to assure the endless shifting between happiness and unhappiness, which also assures misery and suffering? Cling to the culture’s distortions and the planet’s lies about “what love is" and fail to see that every belief about what love is among the non-Realized is a concept-based, culture-based lie.

You have been told that Wisdom is knowing that You Are nothing and Love is knowing that You Are everything. With no more than an estimated 1.5% on the planet understanding at any given time what “being everything” means, then of course the seeking of “love” will lead to occasional sensations of unchecked “joy” but also to more and more disappointment, misery, suffering, fighting and even killing.

Know the Oneness…know Real Love. Know the Oneness…be Real Love. Please enter the silence of contemplation.

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Advaita Topics 1-9:
1. Defining Advaita Vedanta (Counter 28-55)
2. Methods of Teaching (Counter 55-144)
3. Unicity / Nonduality (Counter 144-239)
4. I AM THAT; I AM (Counter 239-331)
5. Learn vs. Unlearn (Counter 331-413)
6. Unlearn What? (Counter 413-444)
7. Person vs. Realized (444-525)
8. The Triad (Counter 525-745)
9. Before Conception (Counter 745-901)
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Advaita Topics 10-16:
10. No Body Continuity / “ME” (Counter 1-56)
11. Not Born / No Creation / Cannot Die (Counter 56-200)
12. No Peace of “mind” / My “mind” / “Their “mind” (Counter 200-333)
13. Brain vs. “mind” vs. Consciousness (Counter 333-500)
14. Not in the World (Counter 500-603)
15. Inner Guru (Counter 603-715)
16. Personality-Suffering Connection / Upgrading Illusions (Counter 715-840)
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Advaita Topics 18-24:
18. The Role-Playing + Co-dependency + Suicide Link (Counter 1-205)
19. Upgrading / Downgrading Illusions (Counter 205-300)
20. Emotions vs. Feelings (Counter 300-422)
21. Religion and Spirituality (Counter 422-547)
22. Question All (Counter 547-713)
23. Natural vs. Unnatural vs. Supernatural Living (Counter 713-833)
24. When Trillions Are Wrong (Counter 833-920)
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25. Christ the Advaitin (Counter 1-150)
26. Child Ignorance / The Pre-”mind” State (Counter 150-340)
27. Child Ignorance vs. Learned Ignorance (Counter 340-439)
28. Two Levels of Witnessing (Counter 439-554)
29. Desires and Fears (Counter 554-641)
30. Consciousness vs. Awareness (Counter 641-720)
31. Real Love vs. false love (Counter 720-846)
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Advaita Topics 32-33:
32. Zero Concepts (Counter 1-120)
33. The Nothingness (Counter 120-250)
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