Sunday, October 02, 2011

THE "FOREST DWELLER STAGE" IS REQUIRED, THOUGH AN ACTUAL FOREST IS NOT, Part Two

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As for Maharaj, you will find here some of his early pointers for beginners but some of his later pointers that are for seekers farther along the "path." During his last years, he said of I AM THAT: "That book and whatever was expounded at that time was only relevant for that period. I am speaking differently today" and am "emphasizing different aspects." What he offered later differed considerably from his earlier talks, making clear that the pointers in I AM THAT will take you to the midpoint of "the race" but that his final talks point the way to "the finish line."

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F.: So how does one enter into the "Forest Dweller Stage" even if going to the forest is out of the question? Consider: the title of Thomas Hardy’s novel Far from the Madding Crowd is taken from Thomas Gray’s poem "Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard."

How to find the solitude of a quiet, remote churchyard in the English countryside when you cannot stay on a permanent vacation but must deal with financial issues and / or car and house repair issues and / or a failing business issue?

How to find the peace that comes when far away from the madding crowd when you cannot stay far away from the madding crowd but must deal with employer or employee issues and / or family and relationship issues and / or neighbor issues?

There is a natural preference for being in a quiet, country setting vs. a noisy, concrete and steel setting and there is a natural appeal for being in the presence of soothing, natural sounds (such as might be heard next to a gently-flowing stream or that might be heard if sitting outside early in the morning and listening to the birds as they express their joy over the comfortable temperatures brought by the fall season's first cool front).

Any inclination to prefer a concrete and steel setting rather than a tranquil setting in nature, or to prefer noise and chaos over peace and stability, is a result of perverse acculturation and programming and conditioning.

There is a natural appeal for the natural, the result of which is an archetypal drive among most to find a geographic place with some very specific traits for retreat and re-treat and that is far from the crowd. That innate drive will support the belief that there is a place (or places) that people must travel to in order to find Self and freedom and peace and happiness.

Over a period of thirty-three years, nearly 5,000 persons were polled by the author during discussions concerning the movement away from the madding crowd. (Most of those polled - as is the case with the majority of the people on the planet - did not have the option of arranging a permanent retreat from society.)

Prior to the polling, the participants were told that most humans have in their imagination a quiet place, a place that they would consider to have all of the attributes of "the perfect hideaway" or "an ideal place for escape."

It was explained that they were not to try to describe a geographical place that they have actually visited but were to tap into the deepest recesses of the consciousness and describe that place which can only be visualized and that has always been within. Next, they were asked to list the words that best described the place and its surroundings.

In 95% of all responses, six common traits were always mentioned:

1. remote
2. quiet
3. a place of solitude because no other humans are anywhere near (meaning one can be alone there without feeling lonely)
4. water
5. the natural sound of the movement of water (waterfall, brook, stream) and sometimes the sound of a gentle breeze blowing through the trees
6. wildlife, esp. birds

The author's Cherokee grandmother used a term employed by the indigenous peoples to describe that “non-place place”: she called it “The Medicine Place” or “The Healing Place,” reached by conducting a “Spirit Journey.”

Do not conclude that a "Spirit Journey" has anything to do with 'being spiritual." It is merely a "journey" that happens in a non-physical way. Humans can "visit" their quiet place of retreat which has all of the six traits above without having to go anywhere literally.

Do most require at least some time with a teacher to address one-on-one the seeker’s questions? Often that seems to be the case; however, no expensive trip is required for you to reach that "healing place" where the True Self can be known.

Note that enlightenment is about touching that Original Understanding which predated both language and world travel. There is an “inner guru” or “inner resource” that can be tapped into; however, programming and conditioning and domestication and acculturation have created such a barricade of blackness that more light is required to penetrate the barriers than most will ever muster alone.

So, in order for Realization to happen (and for peace and happiness to continue thereafter), must one travel to a geographically-remote area and reside there in order to be removed far from the madding crowd? Of course not.

Post-Realization, all is seen for what it is, and the madding crowd is recognized to be as grand an illusion as everything else that is misperceived by the non-Realized. A mirage in the road ahead can only be troublesome for those who are deceived and who believe that illusions are real.

Instead of having to take endless trips around the planet, yours must be a “non-journey journey” to the “non-place place” where the no-thingness awaits. The no-thingness? Yes. To understand that it is the nothingness that is found at the end of this “path” prevents most from ever even starting an Advaita-based “journey” that is marked ...

by annihilation … not gain;

by elimination of all of the learned ignorance that has been collected … not acquisition of more knowledge;

and

by de-accumulation … not accumulation.

If all that awaits at the “end” of your quest is understood, you will know that there is no benefit, no one to benefit, no purpose, and no meaning. Know that and your quest will lose that frenzied drive that might be characterizing your current efforts. That will allow a calmer state to manifest, which is the only kind of state in which Realization can happen. Best regards on that "non-journey journey."

Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)

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