From a site visitor: You might remember that I ordered a copy of FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE not long ago. I agree with Tyla that it’s the most important book I’ve ever read, but two questions came up while I was reading. 1. When the manifesting is taking place, the conscious-energy, as you referred to it, is moving from the field and headed toward manifestation in some physical form or matrix. You show its movement from the Absolute to the True Self to the witness to the Child Ignorance stage. First, what is the difference in the True Self and the witness? Also, it seems that the True Self and witness would come after the Child Ignorance stage. Why do you teach the reverse? (This is not to debate your teaching, just to understand it.) Thank you. Randall
[Continued from yesterday. Again, the postings this week are for those at the advanced level.]
F.: In fact, the Absolute, THAT which is limitless and formless, is beyond beingness, beyond Beingness, beyond Selfness, beyond non-beingness, and beyond non-Beingness. Therefore, the atman or the True Self is not a “thing” with shape or form. The True Self is manifested via a bundling of elements which take a temporary shape or form, but the True Self is not that shape or form. I am not a body. I am manifested via the space that some call “floyd.”
Too, there is no difference in the True Self (a.k.a., Pure Witnessing or Pure Consciousness) and the subject-object witnessing except the degree of “ripeness”—as in the example of the apple that was raw but that eventually ripened. As you’re trying to understand the later “steps” and their order as described in FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE, Randall, you might read the early November postings, one of which offered this pointer:
The state of non-attachment happens when you reach the fifth of the seven steps on the “journey” to Realization and function as an objective witness to happenings in the relative existence. One new perspective that comes at that stage in the “re-purification-of-the-consciousness” process [outlined in the book From the I to the Absolute] is this: “Anything can be…but nothing has to be.” That’s non-attachment, but non-attachment does not imply that no feelings can ever be felt during the remainder of the manifestation. Next, as the consciousness reaches total purity, Pure Witnessing happens as the True Self sees the unicity from a "condition" of complete non-attachment. The two witnessing "states" happen simultaneously during the manifestation as the I AM awareness happens via the objective witness and the I AM THAT awareness happens via Pure Witnessing.
More on that point later. First, it should also be pointed out that, while there is no difference in objective and Pure witnessing except the degree of ripeness (the degree of purification), there is a “distinction” in the nature of (a) the kinetic form of energy referred to as “Pure Consciousness” and (b) the potential form of the energy in the pool referred to as THAT. They are not two and are the same energy, so why are two terms used in discussing the one, same energy? The “distinction” refers only to whether the energy is manifested (that’s the “a” above) or whether it is not manifested or is unmanifested (that’s the “b” above).
The Pure Consciousness is reliant upon some matrix or form for its manifestation. Once the consciousness releases from that form, then it immediately enters into the field—the omnipresent Absolute—as energy without awareness. [Consider the sequence of events when a bug strikes the windshield of your car to see how instantaneously that can happen.] The energy within "the field" is conscious of nothing but has the potential to manifest and to be consciousness of all. But to emphasize, the Absolute has no form or matrix that allows for manifestation; thus, there is no being “in” the Absolute that could recognized anything or anyone. Those who “want to die” in order that they might “go to heaven” and see their loved ones…might as well live.
To your second question, the key to understanding the order of manifesting and unmanifesting is understanding “embodiment with non-attachment.” The early part of the Child Ignorance stage is marked by embodiment with non-attachment, as are the witnessing stages. [To clarify and emphasize, the early Child Ignorance state and the witnessing states are beyond identification with the space or the embodiment and therefore have no “experiences” such as those which the body and mind and personality imagine that they are “having” as a result of identifying with the embodiment of consciousness rather than the consciousness itSelf. Realization is dependent upon understanding that the True Self / Pure Witnessing / Pure Consciousness is beyond attachment to the embodiment form or matrix, that the Witnessing is reliant upon the manifestation in order for witnessing to happen, and that the True Self can know the Absolute but will never “experience” the Absolute since no Self or self exists post-beingness. The True Self happens in the realm of beingness; body-mind-personality happenings are imagined to be occurring in the fantasy realm of doership.]
To understand the order of the steps that are the focus of your question, see that in the early part of the Child Ignorance stage, the child is not aware that it exists. Very soon, that consciousness will become more aware of its presence and will jump in startled reaction to any loud noises nearby. Already at that point, the consciousness is beginning automatically to want continuity as (1) the brain reacts in natural ways to “threat” and as (2) natural “fight-or-flight” instincts are triggered. It will only be later that the child will be told that it has “a mother” and “a father” and that it is “a son” or “a daughter” because it was “created by the parents” and was “born.” At that point, role assignments and acceptance of personality identifications begin.
Also at that point, the pace at which the consciousness is bastardized accelerates. The foundation for delusion and suffering and misery will have been laid. Next, parents and teachers and preachers and priests and politicians and other personalities interested in the concepts of “power” and “control” begin placing onto that foundation their “concept bricks” and “dogma bricks” and “good-bad bricks” and “punishment-reward bricks” and “body-identification bricks” and “mind bricks” and “personality bricks” that will eventually become the walls that make an enclosure on that foundation. Eventually, more and more concepts will form a roof that blocks out all light. The child will thereafter be trapped in the darkness of that enclosure and will grow to adulthood therein, confined within the limited delusion of self and separated from awareness of the unlimited Absolute and from the Light that it truly is. The child knowledge and the relative misery of that period of programming will, in turn, be the mortar that strengthens and reinforces what will become the nearly-impenetrable walls of adulthood imprisonment. Only Realization offers escape, but see what the Realized are up against when trying to penetrate those walls and allow the light to enter into the prison of body and “mind” and personality. See what persons are up against when trying to see the light through such walls. Please enter the silence of contemplation. [To be continued]
[Continued from yesterday. Again, the postings this week are for those at the advanced level.]
F.: In fact, the Absolute, THAT which is limitless and formless, is beyond beingness, beyond Beingness, beyond Selfness, beyond non-beingness, and beyond non-Beingness. Therefore, the atman or the True Self is not a “thing” with shape or form. The True Self is manifested via a bundling of elements which take a temporary shape or form, but the True Self is not that shape or form. I am not a body. I am manifested via the space that some call “floyd.”
Too, there is no difference in the True Self (a.k.a., Pure Witnessing or Pure Consciousness) and the subject-object witnessing except the degree of “ripeness”—as in the example of the apple that was raw but that eventually ripened. As you’re trying to understand the later “steps” and their order as described in FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE, Randall, you might read the early November postings, one of which offered this pointer:
The state of non-attachment happens when you reach the fifth of the seven steps on the “journey” to Realization and function as an objective witness to happenings in the relative existence. One new perspective that comes at that stage in the “re-purification-of-the-consciousness” process [outlined in the book From the I to the Absolute] is this: “Anything can be…but nothing has to be.” That’s non-attachment, but non-attachment does not imply that no feelings can ever be felt during the remainder of the manifestation. Next, as the consciousness reaches total purity, Pure Witnessing happens as the True Self sees the unicity from a "condition" of complete non-attachment. The two witnessing "states" happen simultaneously during the manifestation as the I AM awareness happens via the objective witness and the I AM THAT awareness happens via Pure Witnessing.
More on that point later. First, it should also be pointed out that, while there is no difference in objective and Pure witnessing except the degree of ripeness (the degree of purification), there is a “distinction” in the nature of (a) the kinetic form of energy referred to as “Pure Consciousness” and (b) the potential form of the energy in the pool referred to as THAT. They are not two and are the same energy, so why are two terms used in discussing the one, same energy? The “distinction” refers only to whether the energy is manifested (that’s the “a” above) or whether it is not manifested or is unmanifested (that’s the “b” above).
The Pure Consciousness is reliant upon some matrix or form for its manifestation. Once the consciousness releases from that form, then it immediately enters into the field—the omnipresent Absolute—as energy without awareness. [Consider the sequence of events when a bug strikes the windshield of your car to see how instantaneously that can happen.] The energy within "the field" is conscious of nothing but has the potential to manifest and to be consciousness of all. But to emphasize, the Absolute has no form or matrix that allows for manifestation; thus, there is no being “in” the Absolute that could recognized anything or anyone. Those who “want to die” in order that they might “go to heaven” and see their loved ones…might as well live.
To your second question, the key to understanding the order of manifesting and unmanifesting is understanding “embodiment with non-attachment.” The early part of the Child Ignorance stage is marked by embodiment with non-attachment, as are the witnessing stages. [To clarify and emphasize, the early Child Ignorance state and the witnessing states are beyond identification with the space or the embodiment and therefore have no “experiences” such as those which the body and mind and personality imagine that they are “having” as a result of identifying with the embodiment of consciousness rather than the consciousness itSelf. Realization is dependent upon understanding that the True Self / Pure Witnessing / Pure Consciousness is beyond attachment to the embodiment form or matrix, that the Witnessing is reliant upon the manifestation in order for witnessing to happen, and that the True Self can know the Absolute but will never “experience” the Absolute since no Self or self exists post-beingness. The True Self happens in the realm of beingness; body-mind-personality happenings are imagined to be occurring in the fantasy realm of doership.]
To understand the order of the steps that are the focus of your question, see that in the early part of the Child Ignorance stage, the child is not aware that it exists. Very soon, that consciousness will become more aware of its presence and will jump in startled reaction to any loud noises nearby. Already at that point, the consciousness is beginning automatically to want continuity as (1) the brain reacts in natural ways to “threat” and as (2) natural “fight-or-flight” instincts are triggered. It will only be later that the child will be told that it has “a mother” and “a father” and that it is “a son” or “a daughter” because it was “created by the parents” and was “born.” At that point, role assignments and acceptance of personality identifications begin.
Also at that point, the pace at which the consciousness is bastardized accelerates. The foundation for delusion and suffering and misery will have been laid. Next, parents and teachers and preachers and priests and politicians and other personalities interested in the concepts of “power” and “control” begin placing onto that foundation their “concept bricks” and “dogma bricks” and “good-bad bricks” and “punishment-reward bricks” and “body-identification bricks” and “mind bricks” and “personality bricks” that will eventually become the walls that make an enclosure on that foundation. Eventually, more and more concepts will form a roof that blocks out all light. The child will thereafter be trapped in the darkness of that enclosure and will grow to adulthood therein, confined within the limited delusion of self and separated from awareness of the unlimited Absolute and from the Light that it truly is. The child knowledge and the relative misery of that period of programming will, in turn, be the mortar that strengthens and reinforces what will become the nearly-impenetrable walls of adulthood imprisonment. Only Realization offers escape, but see what the Realized are up against when trying to penetrate those walls and allow the light to enter into the prison of body and “mind” and personality. See what persons are up against when trying to see the light through such walls. Please enter the silence of contemplation. [To be continued]
