FROM A SITE VISITOR: So when you were out of town and said to visit the archives, I did. I read what you wrote in August that even though the Realized don’t believe in “moral vs. immoral,” most who do believe that some behavior is moral and some is immoral would conclude that the Realized live in a moral fashion (I’m putting it in my own words but I think that’s close). So if I get what you’re driving at, if I Realize and don’t believe in dualities like right-wrong, moral-immiral, etc. I’ll automatically live in a way that is moral according to people who think they know what moral is. I’m not trying to start an argument--I guess I’m too new at this to get how I could live in a moral way if I don’t learn what is moral and what is iommoral so I’m just asking you to help me see what you mean and how what you say can happen. Thanks.
F.: Thx for writing. Your paraphrasing is accurate: the Realized understand that all labeling of behavior as "moral" or "immoral" is relative and therefore reject the moral-immoral duality along with all other dualistic concepts. For example, many cultures have thought that lying is immoral, but to lie to a Nazi in 1940 about a Jew that you were hiding in a closet might be considered moral conduct by some. It’s all relative, but personas attempt to apply absolute truths to their relative existence. That is not only impossible but is also insane (insane being defined as “being out of touch with reality” in this case).
So how is it that the Realized, living in an AS IF fashion, “automatically” (that is, spontaneously) function in a manner that judgmental persons would consider “moral”? First, understand that all behavior which persons take to be "wrong" or "immoral" or "bad" is generated by body fears and desires, mind fears and desires, and personality fears and desires. In the U.S., 59% of all women killed in urban areas, and 41% of all men killed in urban areas, are killed during the breakup of a relationship. Most persons would call those killers “wrong, immoral, and bad.” But what was driving that conduct?
At some points during those relationships the body desires of one or both parties were being met. The fear of those desires no longer being met helped drive the behavior. As for “the mind,” it is that accumulation of lies that allows the corrupted consciousness to assume that the personality is real. Therefore, the "end" of the persona of “husband” or “lover” or “wife” was being perceived as an actual threat to an ego-state that was being taken as a real identity. The desire of the “husband” or “lover” or “wife” to have continuity, and the fear that the existence of those ego-states was coming to an end, generated the conduct that persons label as “wrong or immoral or bad.”
Freed from identifying with the fictional body-mind-personality, the Realized are free of the fictional desires and fictional fears that accompany belief in the fictitious body-mind-personality triad. Free of the fictional body-mind-personality identification that generates behavior that persons label as “wrong, immoral or bad,” whatever happens with the Realized happens spontaneously (or "automatically," to use your word). Whatever happens will happen without the fears and desires that inspire the harmful conduct (relatively speaking) that happens when personas are driven by their agendas to avoid what is feared and when they are driven to accumulate what is desired.
And that is why you will "automatically live in a way this is moral according to people who think they know what moral is" if you “Realize and don’t believe in dualities like right-wrong, moral-immoral, etc.” Please enter the silence of contemplation.
F.: Thx for writing. Your paraphrasing is accurate: the Realized understand that all labeling of behavior as "moral" or "immoral" is relative and therefore reject the moral-immoral duality along with all other dualistic concepts. For example, many cultures have thought that lying is immoral, but to lie to a Nazi in 1940 about a Jew that you were hiding in a closet might be considered moral conduct by some. It’s all relative, but personas attempt to apply absolute truths to their relative existence. That is not only impossible but is also insane (insane being defined as “being out of touch with reality” in this case).
So how is it that the Realized, living in an AS IF fashion, “automatically” (that is, spontaneously) function in a manner that judgmental persons would consider “moral”? First, understand that all behavior which persons take to be "wrong" or "immoral" or "bad" is generated by body fears and desires, mind fears and desires, and personality fears and desires. In the U.S., 59% of all women killed in urban areas, and 41% of all men killed in urban areas, are killed during the breakup of a relationship. Most persons would call those killers “wrong, immoral, and bad.” But what was driving that conduct?
At some points during those relationships the body desires of one or both parties were being met. The fear of those desires no longer being met helped drive the behavior. As for “the mind,” it is that accumulation of lies that allows the corrupted consciousness to assume that the personality is real. Therefore, the "end" of the persona of “husband” or “lover” or “wife” was being perceived as an actual threat to an ego-state that was being taken as a real identity. The desire of the “husband” or “lover” or “wife” to have continuity, and the fear that the existence of those ego-states was coming to an end, generated the conduct that persons label as “wrong or immoral or bad.”
Freed from identifying with the fictional body-mind-personality, the Realized are free of the fictional desires and fictional fears that accompany belief in the fictitious body-mind-personality triad. Free of the fictional body-mind-personality identification that generates behavior that persons label as “wrong, immoral or bad,” whatever happens with the Realized happens spontaneously (or "automatically," to use your word). Whatever happens will happen without the fears and desires that inspire the harmful conduct (relatively speaking) that happens when personas are driven by their agendas to avoid what is feared and when they are driven to accumulate what is desired.
And that is why you will "automatically live in a way this is moral according to people who think they know what moral is" if you “Realize and don’t believe in dualities like right-wrong, moral-immoral, etc.” Please enter the silence of contemplation.
