From site visitor Ricardo: [Received 31 July 2007] You mentioned love-hate in today’s post, but in satsanga you told us that the only two emotions that persons experience are love or fear. Que pasa? Ricardo
[Relevant to the topic of “fears” to be discussed in this series was a recent exchange which began with this e-mail:
[Relevant to the topic of “fears” to be discussed in this series was a recent exchange which began with this e-mail:
From site visitor Sim in Kentucky: Six months before my mom "crossed over" (ok, choose your term) I sent her the It’s All Bullshit book with the inscription, “Floyd has answered ‘What's it all about, Alfie?’” The answer: “It's all bullshit!” She was intelligent enough to take the book for what it was and laugh and move on.
The response: The content of that book is really just a set of relative existence propositionalities with no significance at all other than to provide the timid, novice seeker with the courage or impetus to begin questioning it all. Why question it all? In order to be free of all concepts that trigger fears and desires (a.k.a. "loves") during the manifestation. It seems in this case that the intent was realized in another fashion in that one may have became free of fears and desires regarding that which is post-manifestation. If so, the timing was appropriate since the unmanifesting of the consciousness was seen to be under way. Now, everyone may as well realize that in every case, the unmanifesting of the consciousness is also currently under way. Thx for writing.]
F.: First, the distinction between emotions and feelings will be clarified once again. The Realized can “feel” for as long as the manifestation continues, but they cannot emote. Emotions are reactions generated and sustained by ego-states. Emotions are like small pockets of explosives stored in the warped, fictional “mind” that can detonate without notice. They inspire the taking of unconscious actions around desires/love or reacting unconsciously around fears.
Ricardo, you might re-read the context in which “love-hate” was used, but you are correct: as far as any ego-state experiencing emotional intoxication, there is not really “love and hate”; instead, there is “love” or “fear.” As often noted on the site, all false identities are driven by either desire (often mistaken for "love") or fear.
The response: The content of that book is really just a set of relative existence propositionalities with no significance at all other than to provide the timid, novice seeker with the courage or impetus to begin questioning it all. Why question it all? In order to be free of all concepts that trigger fears and desires (a.k.a. "loves") during the manifestation. It seems in this case that the intent was realized in another fashion in that one may have became free of fears and desires regarding that which is post-manifestation. If so, the timing was appropriate since the unmanifesting of the consciousness was seen to be under way. Now, everyone may as well realize that in every case, the unmanifesting of the consciousness is also currently under way. Thx for writing.]
F.: First, the distinction between emotions and feelings will be clarified once again. The Realized can “feel” for as long as the manifestation continues, but they cannot emote. Emotions are reactions generated and sustained by ego-states. Emotions are like small pockets of explosives stored in the warped, fictional “mind” that can detonate without notice. They inspire the taking of unconscious actions around desires/love or reacting unconsciously around fears.
Ricardo, you might re-read the context in which “love-hate” was used, but you are correct: as far as any ego-state experiencing emotional intoxication, there is not really “love and hate”; instead, there is “love” or “fear.” As often noted on the site, all false identities are driven by either desire (often mistaken for "love") or fear.
One person protested that “You’re wrong, Floyd—there’s also jealousy, such as I feel when I drive up and see my wife talking to the man next door.” That was shown to be fear actually…fear that his wife might have an affair with the neighbor or even leave with the neighbor and in the act end the persona of “husband.”
Another person protested that “You’re wrong—there’s also anger, like when my boss gets on my case and I get angry.” That was shown to be fear actually…fear that the boss might fire the employee and thereby end that false identity.
Louise, in Cape Town, South Africa wrote recently and touched on another aspect, namely, that even love and fear are not two: I was feeling love for someone which changed dramatically to fear (the peripetia you speak of). “I” slipped through the crack and realised instantly that love and fear are the same emotion. I laughed madly, felt wild and free, abandoned my work and hauled off to do some gardening (first time in years) while chuckling in delight. It was understood that “This is all bullshit, because it is all concept”.
The response: “Yes, love and fear are the same emotion to the extent that, when driving through the desert, the mirage I see in the road ahead and the mirage I see in the rearview mirror look like two different things but both are really only...mirages.”
The woman referred to in an earlier posting as Case #2 uses "love as a tool to manipulate men to take care of her and give her anything she wants." Apply the pointer offered by Louise and see that, with the woman known as Case #2, “love” is used to eliminate fears and to fulfill her desires. With her, to use Louise’s words, “love and fear are the same emotion,” at least as far as the manner in which Case#2 functions in the relative. Those two words identify concepts that often function in tandem as one. Just as a “bicycle built for two” is actually just one bike, so “love” and “fear” can work in tandem and be used “to one end” by a person.
Why are both “love” and “fear” concepts…merely mirages? Because they are words used by personas who are being driven by perceived needs and imagined threats. The Realized know neither desire nor fear, understanding that the closest any manifestation will come to knowing True Love is when the Pure Witness level is reached and the Realization of the Oneness is understood.
Remember: 59% of all women murdered in the U.S. are killed by a person (during a breakup) who has previously said, “I love you,” and 41% of all men are killed by a person (during a breakup) who said “I love you.” So much for the way in which the word “love” is tossed about by the non-Realized.
What of those who make the following claim about the Oneness: “I am Fully Realized, and that means that God and I are one?” That is an example of subject-object witnessing, not Pure Witnessing as they believe. They are talking “oneness” but thinking “duality.” Besides, is there not already an excess of persons walking about the planet who are suffering from the God Complex Personality Disorder? Is there really a need for any more teachings that increase their fold?
Next, the order of the steps toward Realization involve finding out everything that one is not before trying to find out “who” one is. The same applies to “love.” Many persons who consider themselves experts on love write to criticize certain pointers offered here; nevertheless, the suggestion remains that persons try to identity what love is not before offering their opinions about what love is. To that end, some pointers from past posts will be offered for the next few days for your re-consideration as it is shown what love is not:
Louise, in Cape Town, South Africa wrote recently and touched on another aspect, namely, that even love and fear are not two: I was feeling love for someone which changed dramatically to fear (the peripetia you speak of). “I” slipped through the crack and realised instantly that love and fear are the same emotion. I laughed madly, felt wild and free, abandoned my work and hauled off to do some gardening (first time in years) while chuckling in delight. It was understood that “This is all bullshit, because it is all concept”.
The response: “Yes, love and fear are the same emotion to the extent that, when driving through the desert, the mirage I see in the road ahead and the mirage I see in the rearview mirror look like two different things but both are really only...mirages.”
The woman referred to in an earlier posting as Case #2 uses "love as a tool to manipulate men to take care of her and give her anything she wants." Apply the pointer offered by Louise and see that, with the woman known as Case #2, “love” is used to eliminate fears and to fulfill her desires. With her, to use Louise’s words, “love and fear are the same emotion,” at least as far as the manner in which Case#2 functions in the relative. Those two words identify concepts that often function in tandem as one. Just as a “bicycle built for two” is actually just one bike, so “love” and “fear” can work in tandem and be used “to one end” by a person.
Why are both “love” and “fear” concepts…merely mirages? Because they are words used by personas who are being driven by perceived needs and imagined threats. The Realized know neither desire nor fear, understanding that the closest any manifestation will come to knowing True Love is when the Pure Witness level is reached and the Realization of the Oneness is understood.
Remember: 59% of all women murdered in the U.S. are killed by a person (during a breakup) who has previously said, “I love you,” and 41% of all men are killed by a person (during a breakup) who said “I love you.” So much for the way in which the word “love” is tossed about by the non-Realized.
What of those who make the following claim about the Oneness: “I am Fully Realized, and that means that God and I are one?” That is an example of subject-object witnessing, not Pure Witnessing as they believe. They are talking “oneness” but thinking “duality.” Besides, is there not already an excess of persons walking about the planet who are suffering from the God Complex Personality Disorder? Is there really a need for any more teachings that increase their fold?
Next, the order of the steps toward Realization involve finding out everything that one is not before trying to find out “who” one is. The same applies to “love.” Many persons who consider themselves experts on love write to criticize certain pointers offered here; nevertheless, the suggestion remains that persons try to identity what love is not before offering their opinions about what love is. To that end, some pointers from past posts will be offered for the next few days for your re-consideration as it is shown what love is not:
1. Is it possible that love is NOT the love-to-be that ego-states experience? The “husband” loves-to-be "husband" so much that when “wife” reports that she is leaving, 59% in the U.S. kill the partner who is trying to leave. "Husband" perceives her action as a threat to him because she is walking away (which is actually the most non-threatening posture in nature). When awareness of the True Self is lost below the layers of personas that the non-Realized wrongly take to be who they are, then a threat to an ego-state will be falsely-perceived as an actual threat.
The result is that the person (in this example “husband”) will believe so strongly that he is being attacked that he will be driven to strike out in what is taken by the warped consciousness to be an act of “self-defense” (specifically, in “defense of his false self”). Yet to the end, he will claim that he was driven to do that out of his "love" for her.
Such is the way the warped consciousness morphs "love" and "fear": persons can then allow their love of an ego-state and their fear of the loss of an ego-state to mesh and then trap them in an often lethal state of emotional intoxication. Such is the insanity of being driven by the "mind" that dominates the thoughts, words, and deeds of the non-Realized. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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