FROM A SITE VISITOR: You said that animals cannot realize THAT. Only humans are capable for realizing THAT?. Then the difference b/n humans & animals is only the presence of "mind". Then according to you the "mind" has to be transcended to realize THAT.But animals do not have "mind". Isn't it?. They behave through intuition generated from brain. If,what I had written in the above is true,then "mind" is needed for realization,Otherwise I would not have seen this site and follow/try the path for realization. Is "intuition" required or "reason" required to take the path for realization? Raja
AND A FOLLOW-UP: Is consciousness not corrupted in animals?If so, then are they realized? Is intuition absent in them? Is consciousness corrupted only in humans through "mind" only? Please Help. I am confused. Raja
F.: The reply sent to the above contained in part the following:
None of this has anything to do with your task. You asked for a teacher but refuse to follow instructions. Because it was obvious that you are at level one and still trapped in body identification, you were invited to stay focused on the I AM in order to address your erroneous identification with body (and, yes, identification with several personas).
You cannot possibly ever forget “raja” if you do not forget all of the other distractions being churned out by your chaotic mind. For those failing in their search for peace and happiness, it matters not if the “mind” is churning out thoughts about God or about greediness;
about the manifestation or about money; about the absolute or about approval; about the real or about reputation; about satsang or about success; about swamis or about spirituality; about prana or about power; or about humans or about animals.
Churning is churning. There are neither “good thoughts” nor “bad” thoughts” in the no-concept, non-dual Reality, and living under the influence of the “mind” will always prevent the consistent manifestation of peace and happiness. Analysis paralysis will not move you along the “path.” It will cause you to miss this truly simple understanding that can lead to peace and happiness.
The seven-step “path” to Realization begins with the first step: the elimination of body identification. One cannot continue to believe that the body has anything to do with Self, leap-frog over step one, and then focus on step two mind elimination and step three personality elimination.
FROM ANOTHER SITE VISITOR: I finally understand your pointer that even if arms and legs and organs are ‘lost’ I Am still Me. But now, how to be free of my racing mind, once and for all?
F.: Accepting your report that body identification has been transcended, your query regarding the discarding of the “mind” will be addressed. Some of the pointers referenced in the first e-mail above can be re-visited and should be relevant to your current “location” on the “path”:
1. While animals cannot realize THAT, they all realize this: I AM (or, more accurately, the pure consciousness in their case is aware of the beingness…the Is-ness…the Am-ness). Witness whatever lives naturally and allow that to be your model throughout the remainder of the manifestation.
2. Yes, a difference between humans and animals exists in that programmed and conditioned and domesticated and enculturated humans have developed “minds.”
3. It will be shown, in fact, that humans develop several “minds” and that insanity is not about being out of your mind but is about being very much into one’s mind(s).
4. (Is it not of at least a fleeting, relative interest that the non-Realized who finally sense that life is meaningless will often suddenly become suicidal? Contrast that with the Realized that—finally seeing that all of this relative stuff is meaningless—suddenly become happy and joyous and free as a result of that awareness.)
5. Yes, "mind" must be transcended to Realize.
6. Yes, animals behave through intuition generated from brain (and body).
7. Any discussion of animals should only happen in order to witness and emulate what they model if not domesticated. Consider in this regard the words of one speck of consciousness (no longer manifested) that understood the words heard from another no-longer-manifested speck called Maharaj and you will understand why this site which employs the Nisarga Yoga approach only mentions natural-living animals to one end (namely, the modeling of sane, natural living):
Compare your body with that of “an animal that is left in its natural habitat. The animal is never overweight, never tense except before fight or flight. It never eats or drinks what is not good for it. It has all the rest and exercise that it needs. It has the right amount of exposure to the elements, to wind and sun and rain and heat and cold. That is because the animal listens to its body (of which the brain is a part) and allows itself to be guided by the body…. Compare that with your own foolish cunningness. If your body could speak, what would it say to you? Observe the greed, the ambition, the vanity, the desire to show off and to please others, the guilt that drives you to ignore the voice of your body while you chase after objectives set by your ego. You have indeed lost the simplicity of the dove.” Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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