FROM A SITE VISITOR: If I'm not my body and and am aware of my consciousness even if I lost most of it's parts and I'm becoming conscious that I wasn't created so don't die but i return to the source or the field of consciousness from whence i came after my manifestation-am I conscious of this return? Thanks in advance. Bill
[Continued from yesterday]
B.: Now it seems you’re saying that my heaven will be if I can realize who I am which in and of itself is infinite even if I stop being aware of who was once bill.
F.: Or being aware of that which was once considered to be “bill,” namely, a body-“mind”-personality triad (or actually, multiple personas). It is suggested that you spend some time in the quiet, reconsidering objectively all of the religious and spiritual concepts that you have been taught and accepted as fact. Why?
Because of two factors: (1) though the religious and/or spiritual stages are required steps along the "path," the assumption of religious and/or spiritual personas will cause the seeker to fixate at that third of seven steps and will thus prevent Full Realization; and (2) there are no greater source of dualistic concepts than organized religion and "organized spirituality."
Therefore, the discussion begun yesterday will continue. After Christ was taught the Advaita message and began sharing it, he was quoted as having said, “No one will see the kingdom of heaven—it’s within.” He was also quoted as having said, “Heaven and earth shall fade away" (when the consciousness fades away from the space called “bill”).
And if there is no heaven that you will ever see, according to the very words of Christ, should that not end once and for all the talk by Christians about "a god in heaven who is awaiting you"? No heaven...no god.
(Some ask, "What about, 'The father has prepared a mansion with many rooms for you'?” That was pre-Realization talk, rooted in the Jewish programming of a child. Even post-Realization, Christ made comments geared for those at the "wet charcoal" stage. Yet that child that talked in the temple would one day leave organized religion and its temples and would preach in homes and on hillsides. Ironically, even though he modeled for persons to leave organized religion, self-serving men created an organized religion in his name.)
The Christ, after having been taught the Advaita philosophy, was also quoted as having said, “When you speak of me, speak of me as I AM” and “Before Abraham was, I AM.” (Since that body called “Christ” took form nearly 2000 years after Abraham’s body had returned to the universal pool of elements, most Christians prefer to ignore those two quotes. They must, since most Christians really have no clue at all what the one they call “Jesus” was really talking about when he referenced the AM-ness.)
The pope before this current one explained it like this: The geography of Gehanna must be corrected: there is no geographic heaven or hell. Those are mental states only, and you are in one or the other NOW. Both are conditions of the consciousness, dependent upon whether it is pure, or warped.
B.: And that once realized will bring the peace and serenity I have been looking for all my life.
F.: Exactly.
B.: It a little scary to know that once my manifestation ends so does the awareness of who was once bill.
F.: Spoken like a “true” body and mind and personality! For “floyd,” what was scary was the belief system he was operating with: that he would spend eternity either singing praise to a male (what an egomaniac) or that he would spend eternity burning at the behest of a punishing god (what an ass). “Heaven” vs. “hell” options became “Hell” vs. “even more hell” options.
Consider how much nonsense is taken to be fact and truth as a result of belief in body identification and as a result of belief in the “birth” principle. “I was born” immediately locks in body identification. That concept then allows billions who believe that they were born to talk about being “born again” as well, figuratively.
It will also convince them that their “savior” was resurrected after “death” and that they too shall be resurrected after death.
(Consider this related piece of nonsense: some females among that same group claim that they have been “re-virgined.” If certain religious persons believe that a woman who is not a virgin can become a virgin again, then convincing those same people to believe in “virgin births” and in being “born again” and in “literal resurrections” is a cinch.)
Among other religious types, the belief in the “birth” principle convinces them that they can be reincarnated and can be “born again, literally”…again and again and again. And, of course, all of that is driven by fear and desire: fear of “death” and desire for continuity.
Want peace? Realize that there was no birth so there is no death. That ends one of the prevalent fears of persons. Since there is no death, there is no life after death. That ends one of the prevalent desires of persons for eternal reward and another of the prevalent fears: eternal punishment. Free of fears and desires, one can just be. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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LIBERATION is a guide to elimination of personality; BULLSHIT is, among other things, an invitation to reject cultural influences to accumulate (including the accumulation of money and excess property and personas and more and more religious beliefs and/or spiritual knowledge and co-dependent entanglements that are intended to provide “happiness”):
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