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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
FROM A SITE VISITOR: Thanx for the discussion of "Self-absorption". I have been a member of [a step group] for a year and they have made me more uneasy by the day. They think they are what you would call "Spiritual Giants" and are judging me because I raise questions that show I am having doubts about the claims about what they can and cannot do for me.
They convinced me when I joined that what they have is so important to me that I will die without it, but you finally used a term that verbalized what I have been trying to put my finger on. Maybe they are less "self-absorbed" than they were before (debatable) but they are definitely "Self-absorbed". All they can talk about is how spiritual they are now and how wonderful that has made their lives (also debatable). so thank you for your site. I believe I am finding there what I have always been looking for--including me and freedom from me.
F.: Religion hooks persons by threatening eternal damnation and pain and suffering while dangling the carrot of eternal reward with dualities at the core of their message: pain vs. pleasure, hell vs. heaven, punishment vs. reward. That combination has hooked 97% of the population of the planet.
Spiritual groups, such as the one you mentioned, toss in another dualistic hook: they promise not only a "wonderful, even heavenly, life" now but use their real hook as well, namely, the threat that you are going to die without them. A doubly powerful way to not only seize you but also to detain you for the remainder of your relative existence, yes?
When cancerous growths were identified in this body, a series of actions were taken to eliminate those polyps. Once a "cancer-free" condition manifested, not a single person who contributed to bringing about that healing asked that I continue to come to the cancer ward on a daily basis;
not a one said that if I don't have surgery every day, I will die; not a one said it will help me to sit around a table and talk about my cancer for the remainder of my life; not a one threatened me with death if I did not help other cancer patients every day for the rest of my life.
There are professionals who are far better trained to offer such service, and only ego would have made "floyd" believe that because he was cancer-free that he had the solution for all others and to believe that the cure involved magical and supernatural elements that played a more important role than any of the other parts of the treatment.
[See Louise's comments in the last series regarding the woman that gave her doctors less credit for her successful surgery and credited her compact with "the Lord" as being the key.]
Many who have been programmed and conditioned to accept dogma without question speak of "the power of prayer to heal." In the book SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY, in a section entitled, "THE POWER OF PRAYER: TO KILL (PART ONE)," this is offered:
The following article appeared in a Denver newspaper:
CHARGES FOLLOW FAITH-HEALING DEATH
Denver Post, Mar. 10, 2001 GRAND JUNCTION Charges have been filed against the parents of a 13-year-old girl who died from a common infection that turned into gangrene after her parents opted to treat her with prayer but not medicine. The parents were issued summonses Friday on charges of criminally negligent homicide, reckless manslaughter, reckless child abuse resulting in death, and criminally negligent child abuse resulting in death. [The parents belong to a religious sect that] believes there is a biblical injunction against medical treatment. They treat illnesses and injuries with prayer. In the past, church elders have said that “when prayer fails to heal an illness and a child dies, it is God's will.”
On this site, reasons abound that are arguments for abandoning all personality, but another key reason that the sages have long advocated the same is because the adoption of personality is the prerequisite for the development of personality disorders (which 99%+ on the planet suffer from to varying degrees). The site visitor who wrote the e-mail above is really discussing a group whose membership is suffering from Spiritual OCD.
With that disorder, persons are driven to obsess and obsess and obsess over something; then, eventually, they will be driven to act compulsively around that obsession. Out of impulse, rather than out of intuitive logic and reason, they will blindly act.
[Recall that personality is a subconscious motivator, determining thoughts and words and actions, so persons will believe they are making choices when they are not - another form of insanity, yes?]
Each of the nine basic personality types brings with it one or more personality disorders. While any type can exhibit any of the disorders, some types are almost assured to exhibit certain specific disorders as they disintegrate psychically during their teen and adult years as all non-Realized persons do:
Ones tend to suffer from the Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder and from the Depressive Personality Disorder.
Twos tend to suffer from the Histrionic Personality Disorder and from the Factitious Personality Disorder.
Threes tend to suffer from the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Fours tend to suffer from the Narcissistic Personality Disorder, from the Depressive Personality Disorder, and from the Avoidant Personality Disorder.
Fives tend to suffer from the Schizoid Avoidant Personality Disorder and from the Schizotypal Personality Disorder.
Sixes tend to suffer from the Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder and from the Paranoid Personality Disorder.
Sevens tend to suffer from the Manic-Depressive (Bi-Polar) Personality Disorder and from the Histrionic Personality Disorder.
Eights tend to suffer from the Antisocial Personality Disorder and from the Sociopathic Personality Disorder.
Nines tend to suffer from the Schizoid Personality Disorder and from the Dependent Personality Disorder.
So in a few short paragraphs, some of the major effects of personality assumption can be seen:
Religious and Spiritual OCD, resulting in religious and / or spiritual workaholism that preempts any chance for one to merely enjoy the relative existence naturally; the inspiration to manipulate others to mirror the way that the self-absorbed and the Self-absorbed think and talk and behave;
a proclivity to hasten the end of the relative existence (as with the child mentioned above) by using magical, supernatural treatments when other treatments are indicated; and the assurance of developing personality disorders that bring about fear and desire and suffering and misery.
Is it any wonder that the sages for thousands of years have been inviting persons to be free of personality?
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
They convinced me when I joined that what they have is so important to me that I will die without it, but you finally used a term that verbalized what I have been trying to put my finger on. Maybe they are less "self-absorbed" than they were before (debatable) but they are definitely "Self-absorbed". All they can talk about is how spiritual they are now and how wonderful that has made their lives (also debatable). so thank you for your site. I believe I am finding there what I have always been looking for--including me and freedom from me.
F.: Religion hooks persons by threatening eternal damnation and pain and suffering while dangling the carrot of eternal reward with dualities at the core of their message: pain vs. pleasure, hell vs. heaven, punishment vs. reward. That combination has hooked 97% of the population of the planet.
Spiritual groups, such as the one you mentioned, toss in another dualistic hook: they promise not only a "wonderful, even heavenly, life" now but use their real hook as well, namely, the threat that you are going to die without them. A doubly powerful way to not only seize you but also to detain you for the remainder of your relative existence, yes?
When cancerous growths were identified in this body, a series of actions were taken to eliminate those polyps. Once a "cancer-free" condition manifested, not a single person who contributed to bringing about that healing asked that I continue to come to the cancer ward on a daily basis;
not a one said that if I don't have surgery every day, I will die; not a one said it will help me to sit around a table and talk about my cancer for the remainder of my life; not a one threatened me with death if I did not help other cancer patients every day for the rest of my life.
There are professionals who are far better trained to offer such service, and only ego would have made "floyd" believe that because he was cancer-free that he had the solution for all others and to believe that the cure involved magical and supernatural elements that played a more important role than any of the other parts of the treatment.
[See Louise's comments in the last series regarding the woman that gave her doctors less credit for her successful surgery and credited her compact with "the Lord" as being the key.]
Many who have been programmed and conditioned to accept dogma without question speak of "the power of prayer to heal." In the book SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY, in a section entitled, "THE POWER OF PRAYER: TO KILL (PART ONE)," this is offered:
The following article appeared in a Denver newspaper:
CHARGES FOLLOW FAITH-HEALING DEATH
Denver Post, Mar. 10, 2001 GRAND JUNCTION Charges have been filed against the parents of a 13-year-old girl who died from a common infection that turned into gangrene after her parents opted to treat her with prayer but not medicine. The parents were issued summonses Friday on charges of criminally negligent homicide, reckless manslaughter, reckless child abuse resulting in death, and criminally negligent child abuse resulting in death. [The parents belong to a religious sect that] believes there is a biblical injunction against medical treatment. They treat illnesses and injuries with prayer. In the past, church elders have said that “when prayer fails to heal an illness and a child dies, it is God's will.”
On this site, reasons abound that are arguments for abandoning all personality, but another key reason that the sages have long advocated the same is because the adoption of personality is the prerequisite for the development of personality disorders (which 99%+ on the planet suffer from to varying degrees). The site visitor who wrote the e-mail above is really discussing a group whose membership is suffering from Spiritual OCD.
With that disorder, persons are driven to obsess and obsess and obsess over something; then, eventually, they will be driven to act compulsively around that obsession. Out of impulse, rather than out of intuitive logic and reason, they will blindly act.
[Recall that personality is a subconscious motivator, determining thoughts and words and actions, so persons will believe they are making choices when they are not - another form of insanity, yes?]
Each of the nine basic personality types brings with it one or more personality disorders. While any type can exhibit any of the disorders, some types are almost assured to exhibit certain specific disorders as they disintegrate psychically during their teen and adult years as all non-Realized persons do:
Ones tend to suffer from the Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder and from the Depressive Personality Disorder.
Twos tend to suffer from the Histrionic Personality Disorder and from the Factitious Personality Disorder.
Threes tend to suffer from the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Fours tend to suffer from the Narcissistic Personality Disorder, from the Depressive Personality Disorder, and from the Avoidant Personality Disorder.
Fives tend to suffer from the Schizoid Avoidant Personality Disorder and from the Schizotypal Personality Disorder.
Sixes tend to suffer from the Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder and from the Paranoid Personality Disorder.
Sevens tend to suffer from the Manic-Depressive (Bi-Polar) Personality Disorder and from the Histrionic Personality Disorder.
Eights tend to suffer from the Antisocial Personality Disorder and from the Sociopathic Personality Disorder.
Nines tend to suffer from the Schizoid Personality Disorder and from the Dependent Personality Disorder.
So in a few short paragraphs, some of the major effects of personality assumption can be seen:
Religious and Spiritual OCD, resulting in religious and / or spiritual workaholism that preempts any chance for one to merely enjoy the relative existence naturally; the inspiration to manipulate others to mirror the way that the self-absorbed and the Self-absorbed think and talk and behave;
a proclivity to hasten the end of the relative existence (as with the child mentioned above) by using magical, supernatural treatments when other treatments are indicated; and the assurance of developing personality disorders that bring about fear and desire and suffering and misery.
Is it any wonder that the sages for thousands of years have been inviting persons to be free of personality?
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
Much of what Louise has shared has resonated with many site visitors. to that end, some have inquired recently if Louise offers the online Advaita Internet Course. The answer is, "Yes."
Whether taking the course with Louise or Floyd, the price of the course includes all 11 of the Advaita eBooks, questions sent after completion of the assigned readings, replies to your answers, and follow-up as required.
With either teacher, you will be guided through all seven of the steps, in order, that lead from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond). For more specific information and details about the course, you may click on the link to the right.
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Whether taking the course with Louise or Floyd, the price of the course includes all 11 of the Advaita eBooks, questions sent after completion of the assigned readings, replies to your answers, and follow-up as required.
With either teacher, you will be guided through all seven of the steps, in order, that lead from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond). For more specific information and details about the course, you may click on the link to the right.
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Now you can receive for $40 a downloadable computer file version of the same 7-hour satsang that seekers receive when they visit for the Advaita Retreat with Floyd. You will be guided through the seven steps from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond).
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SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
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Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
You may visit The Official Website of Floyd Henderson for information on each book.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
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4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
The Twice-Stolen Necklace Murders offers the non-duality message by way of a mystery-adventure novel, discussing the movement from pain to healing to awakening to peace.
From Dr. R.F. Maley, Ph.D, Professor Emeritus and former Head of the Department of Psychology, University of Houston: "Floyd Henderson's book, The Twice-Stolen Necklace Murders, is a fun read and an interesting mystery, but perhaps more importantly it serves as a vehicle for blending Eastern Philosophy and Native American Spirituality to make an intellectually challenging novel. The book's insights into both relationships and authoritarian conditioning of people in our society make it a must read, tracing the roots of narcissistic, sociopathic and psychopathic behaviors to the very core of the culture. This truly witty and politically-incorrect study of the aggressive nature of 'the American character' offers not only a diagnosis but also a treatment plan, making the book an excellent supplemental reading in courses such as psychology, anthropology, philosophy, sociology and counseling."
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THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF WARS
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