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ENTERING INTO "THE CHILD IGNORANCE STAGE" OR "THE CHILD NO-KNOWING STATE"
[Included are excerpts from the book entitled The Relative Results of Returning to "The Child Ignorance Stage" or "The Child No-Knowing State"]
BODY, MIND, PERSONALITY, MULTIPLE, DISSOCIATIVE, AND ALTER EGO IDENTIFICATIONS
vs.
IDENTITYLESSNESS
IDENTITYLESSNESS
To review two of the key pointers being offered:
First, the completion of the entire "journey" to full realization does not result in egotism and arrogance and narcissism being replaced by (always-false) "humility" or (always-false) "modesty" because those are nothing more than the opposite extreme of the "egotistical vs. humble" duality.
Next, the entire notion that you have become better, that you have become something really "good" or super religious or super spiritual, that you have really become SOMETHING (and "something special"), differs not at all from the same kind of deception and self-deception which plagues the totally non-Realized masses and which triggers use of the same ego-defense mechanisms (such as egotism and arrogance) employed by anyone assuming an ego-state as an identity.
For those that arrive at the full understanding, it is understood that reality only exists in one "form," namely, as the no-idea, no-concept, no-belief, no-identity, non-dual, ego-less, egotism-less, and nothingness-as-opposed-to-somethingness reality.
IDENTITY-LESS-NESS AND MAHARAJ'S "TAKE" ON THE SUBJECT
A Questioner asked me this: “You mentioned giving up being The Knower. I read where you wrote that by the end of the journey we will understand the functioning of the totality. Wouldn't that make you 'The Knower' or at least 'The Understander'?”
F’s Reply: No. With Full Realization, any and all identity-assumption ends. At the point of the final understanding, yes, it is understood how simple the functioning of the totality is; yes, it is understood that nothing more is happening than that things are simply coming together for a time and then coming apart (see the Laws of Thermodynamics that apply);
furthermore, it is understood that with such chaos and instability, there is no "grand order" or intelligent design in this universe and that there can be no Creator because there is only energy / matter and because energy / matter can be neither created nor destroyed.
Maharaj: “From the Absolute no-knowing state, spontaneously, this consciousness ‘I am’ has appeared—there is no reason, no cause.”
Once it is understood that
** what is has always been and that
** there are no timelines because all is merely cycling - cycling in and cycling out - and that
** there is, therefore, no creation, no birth, no death, and no parents and that
** you are presently a composite unity of elements, air, and temporarily-manifested energy with the ability to be conscious-of, and that
** what comes together will come apart, then the functioning of the totality is understood but it is the unblocked consciousness that understands and not some "one" or "person."
Moreover, once that is understood, it becomes ignored unless the subject is raised by a seeker. Additionally, once the myths of birth and death and creation and beginning and end and self-ness and Self-ness are seen to be myths, then belief in all of the assumed identities that those myths have supported also ends.
Once belief in the original lie and all subsequent lies ends, then there can be no "Believer," no "Knower," no "Understander." For a period, as the end of the "journey" is approached, there is identification with the nothingness, but eventually even that identity ends.
Also, the "journey" will not result in persons finally "seeing that their old beliefs have been disproved and then accepting that a new set of beliefs attained via some different (non-dual) teachings and understandings are true"; instead, the case is that all ideas and concepts and beliefs will have been disproved:
Maharaj: “When the birth is disproved, the great noble meaning of spirituality and the meaning of this world—everything—is disproved”
and
"After the information given to you by the mother, that you are a boy or girl, all your further acquisitions are by hearsay."
Maharaj: “When you are thoroughly knowledgeable, you will come to the conclusion that this beingness is also an illusion”
and
“Whatever you have tried to understand during your spiritual search will prove false."
Having seen the lies, Maharaj rejected all beliefs and ideas and concepts:
“I have no faith in anything which has ever been told, not even what has been told by the Vedas."
Next, with the end of belief in lies, then all other beliefs about identity also end; thus, Maharaj said:
“I take my stand in the original state where I was not aware that I am"
and
“From my angle, you are nothing. You have no identity”
and
"Both experience and experiencer will disappear."
So, the invitation here is the same offered by Maharaj to those who visited his loft:
. . . “You should go back, reverse, to the source”
and
“Follow the same path by which you came.”
That addressed, the discussion can now return to the series while noting the relevance of the new pointers above as well:
A. if only about 60% of the "journey" is completed by finishing the first four of the seven steps on the "path" from identification with the false "I," and
B. if a seeker completes at least 60% of the going back and reversing to the source while following in reverse the same path by which you came,
then the seeker will have transcended identification with the body / mind / personality triad; will have been freed of living under the influence of the personality trance;
will understand the elements / air / conscious-energy triad; and will have reached the Child No-Knowing Stage where the seeker last experienced unconditional happiness. And why was unconditional happiness experienced at that point but not afterwards?
Because at that point the child had not yet been taught - and did not yet believe in - any of the false ideas and concepts and beliefs that have been dreamed up and passed on by the ignorant and the insane for generations.
At that stage, there will be none of the hidden agendas and fears and desires that personality generates, and there will be no vocabulary of duality that has been taught and that subconsciously drives insane thoughts and insane words and insane deeds.
In the absence of the subconscious driver that the fiction-filled "mind" is, there can be no perceived needs, no baseless fears that drive accumulation, and no unmet desires. At that point in the de-accumulation process that happens by completing the first four of seven steps, whatever is will be "enough." And that can come with the completion of only about 60% of the steps on the "path," substantiating the earlier pointer that completion of even four of the seven steps is worthwhile, relatively speaking.
To be continued.
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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.
THE EXPLANATION
If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.
Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."
The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").
Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.
"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."
Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:
"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"
--Yeshu'a (Jesus)
and
"Heaven and earth shall fade away."
--Yeshu'a (Jesus)
and
"Heaven and hell are not geographic places
but are states of mind, nothing more than
concepts dreamed up by men."
--Pope John Paul II
"There is no hell."
--Pope Francis, the current pope
in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,
a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record
teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.
[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.
And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?
Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?
The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)
With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.
The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]
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