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CONFUSIONS AND DISAGREEMENTS AND INCONSISTENCIES AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT "ADVAITA VEDANTA" AND "NON-DUALITY" AND "THE MESSAGE" AND "THE MESSENGERS"
Such misunderstandings about Advaita Vedanta and non-duality have long existed and absolutely proliferate nowadays. For example, it has been written that "Advaita Vedanta is an Indian philosophical system mainly associated with some early Upanishads and the works of Adi Shankara."
While the notion had been referenced here early on that Advaita Vedanta might be at least one-part philosophical, even that notion was set aside long ago and replaced with a focus on non-duality and the view that non-duality is a means or a process by which an understanding (or "freedom from ignorance") can manifest; thus, Advaita Vedanta might be considered to be "a philosophy," but non-duality is seen as something quite different.
As for Shankara, while the dates of his "birth" and "death" are disputed, the most commonly accepted dates are around the 780's and 820, respectively, though many claim he was "born" much earlier.
OTHER MISUNDERSTANDINGS
Some, too, dispute the significance of the notion that Shankara played the role of "The Consolidator" of Advaita Vedanta - praised as "the one who consolidated the doctrine of Advaita Vedanta." To "consolidate" means to "merge, combine, and unite many things as one." That might apply to his writings about "Advaita Vedanta" and other "philosophies and systems" but that makes no sense at all if one is speaking specifically of a "non-dual" understanding.
To illustrate, he did try to explain a key difference between Hinduism and Buddhism, stating that Hinduism asserts "Atman (Soul, Self) exists" while Buddhism asserts that there is "no Soul, no Self"; however, that point would involve de-consolidating rather than consolidating (accurate though it was and certainly in alignment with Maharaj's later message which endorsed a "no Self" understanding and which endorsed self-inquiry over Self-Inquiry, saying that "it is enough to know who you are not").
ADVAITA VEDANTA VS. NON-DUALITY
Taft points out accurately that "the first Indian scriptures, the Vedas (roughly 1000 BCE), are completely dualistic in their outlook; these Ur-texts of human spirituality consist mainly of poems of praise to nature deities, magical spells, and ritual invocations."
In fact, a non-dual message was being circulated long before any "consolidated Advaita Vedanta" writings came into being and long before any so-called "consolidation" of a doctrine referred to as "Advaita Vedanta."
OTHER DISPUTES REGARDING THE NON-DUAL MESSAGE
Disputed are (1) the existence of "Moses" and (2) the suggestion that he wrote "the Torah" (a.k.a., "Genesis" and other of the first books in what Judaeo-Christians call "The Old Testament") and even (3) the date of such writings. If those writings occurred in the early 1300's B.C., then by the early 1300's the summative statement of non-duality had reached the Middle East from the Far East, likely carried by people in the caravans which traveled between the two regions.
So if the Torah was written shortly after 1300 B.C., then the non-dual message was already being discussed in the Middle East though the writer of The Torah left out the semi-colon between the two when he used it as one of the names for "God" ("I AM THAT I AM" rather than I AM THAT; I AM. Another misunderstanding).
Around two thousand years ago, Yeshu'a (Jesus) had modeled abandoning organized religion and was offering non-dual pointers in his later talks either out-of-doors or in private homes. The result: he was killed, so for at least 2,000 years, we have evidence of the fact that those involved in organized religion (and those involved in governments which have long aligned themselves with religion or religious leaders in order to expand their power base) have been opposed to the non-dual message which is totally incompatible with the dualistic dogma which organized religions rely on.
For another example of what can happen to "The Messenger of the actual non-dual message," look to Maharaj:
First he attracted Hindu visitors to his bidi shop which some visited in order to discuss his non-duality / Hinduism combination message; for a time, others came to his loft to be exposed to the same message where he used religion to attract the religious and then added in more non-dual and sometimes Nisargan messages during the two sessions a day he conducted. The result: many worshipped and lauded and idolized him.
After the publication of the transcripts of some of his talks in the book entitled I AM THAT, Westerners came who deemed themselves to be "spiritual rather than religious." The result: Maharaj allowed them to influence his message and led him to offer more non-dual pointers and less Hindu dogma. The result: many more worshipped and lauded and idolized him though some locals criticized his "shift."
Eventually, he would abandon both religious-and-spirituality-based pointers after he came to see that the Ultimate Sickness was a mind-based sickness, not a sickness based in too-little-religion and not a sickness involving a sick spirit or a "spiritual malady." When he began offering a psychological / non-dual message as a form of the Ultimate Medicine, the critics came forth in significant numbers.
Some among the formerly-idolizing mob became anti-Maharaj, just as happened with Yeshu'a nearly 2,000 years earlier when he shifted away from organized religion and toward a non-dual message.
[NOTE: One critic of Maharaj claimed he went from being the most spiritual teacher of all time to being the least spiritual of all, explaining the shift by saying that obviously ego and egotism took over in his later days.
Though his ending the use of religion and spirituality as parts of the Ultimate Medicine were not announced one morning with fanfare as if a "Eureka! moment" had come,
many believed nevertheless that
(1) there was one particular day when he woke up and said that he'd not use religion and spirituality any more and would be focusing on the psychology of the distorted mind - the seat of duality - which blocks access to the pure, universal consciousness.
Others believed that
(2) egotism crept in slowly and took control of his messaging.
Neither is true. Actually, there were instances early on when he questioned the masses' widely accepted religious and spiritual beliefs about God or gods and goddesses:
In Chapter 72 of I AM THAT, published in 1973 (well before his taking of mahasamadhi in 1981) he said: "You create a God in your own image . . . ."
He also said to one seeker, "First of all, you identify something as being good or bad for yourself. Then, in an effort to acquire good or to get rid of bad, you have invented a God. Then you worship such a God and . . . you pray to that God for something good to happen to you."
Meanwhile, he continued speak to others about "God this" or "God that."
Was he being inconsistent? No.
He was offering level-appropriate pointers. For those who were not ready to hear, he spoke of the God whom they spoke of. For those that were ready to move beyond to the full understanding, he discounted their dreamed up concept of a "God."]
[NOTE: One critic of Maharaj claimed he went from being the most spiritual teacher of all time to being the least spiritual of all, explaining the shift by saying that obviously ego and egotism took over in his later days.
Though his ending the use of religion and spirituality as parts of the Ultimate Medicine were not announced one morning with fanfare as if a "Eureka! moment" had come,
many believed nevertheless that
(1) there was one particular day when he woke up and said that he'd not use religion and spirituality any more and would be focusing on the psychology of the distorted mind - the seat of duality - which blocks access to the pure, universal consciousness.
Others believed that
(2) egotism crept in slowly and took control of his messaging.
Neither is true. Actually, there were instances early on when he questioned the masses' widely accepted religious and spiritual beliefs about God or gods and goddesses:
In Chapter 72 of I AM THAT, published in 1973 (well before his taking of mahasamadhi in 1981) he said: "You create a God in your own image . . . ."
He also said to one seeker, "First of all, you identify something as being good or bad for yourself. Then, in an effort to acquire good or to get rid of bad, you have invented a God. Then you worship such a God and . . . you pray to that God for something good to happen to you."
Meanwhile, he continued speak to others about "God this" or "God that."
Was he being inconsistent? No.
He was offering level-appropriate pointers. For those who were not ready to hear, he spoke of the God whom they spoke of. For those that were ready to move beyond to the full understanding, he discounted their dreamed up concept of a "God."]
IT IS NOT NEW FOR PRO-RELIGION, PRO-SPIRITUALITY PERSONS TO HATE THE NON-DUAL MESSAGE
There is nothing new about the fact that the offering of non-dual pointers very often inspires abhorrence and outrage over the message as well as hatred of "the messenger."
To challenge their false identities - such as "The Super Religious One," "The Spiritual Giant," "The Super Seeker," "The Super Sponsor," or the role which Maharaj warned seekers to avoid, namely, those playing the role of "The Big Name Teacher" - is to incur the wrath of all of those role-players.
One might as well advise the person who is attached to the role of "The Spouse" - and who believes that he or she has a "perfect marriage" - to leave the one playing the co-dependent, counterpart player to that role.
And far more threatening than that would be an invitation to one playing the role of "The Super Religious One," "The Spiritual Giant," "The Super Seeker," "The Super Sponsor," etc. to give up playing the false identities which rob them of authenticity. A typical reaction: "I'm not "The Super Religious One," "The Spiritual Giant," "The Super Seeker," and / or "The Super Sponsor" The hell you say! And to hell with you!"
And far more irritating among many playing the role of a spiritual or religious giant is the suggestion that realization can happen without dogma and without continuous spiritual practices. ("How dare you!")
or
the suggestion that it is more rational to choose scientific facts over the emotional intoxication generated by religious / spiritual fanaticism (How dare you!)
or
the suggestion that while religion and science are not always incompatible, logic and reason and wisdom make clear that if a choice between the two is to be made, only one choice is the sane option.
Again, the point offered here is that realization does not require a mastery of dogma or an attachment to spiritual roles and does not require fanaticism, obsessions or compulsions; thus it should be clear why Maharaj eventually advised seekers to avoid those and then offered a totally different option, namely, to seek a means by which their warped, nonsense-filled mind can be effectively treated.
Meanwhile, if non-dual pointers happen to be heard, the "get-thee-away-from-me-Satan" notion will prevail among the masses far more than the "Hummm-you-might-be-onto-something-there-so-tell-me-more" notion.
The former is the far-more-prevalent belief and attitude.
Hence, Maharaj's advice:
This message is not for the public at large. Share it with them at your own risk.
So it is.
As for those who say, "You must crawl before you walk, so religion or spirituality or holy books or the Big Book etc., etc., etc. are required," the reply is:
"Fine, go with that for a spell. It is, in fact, the third step on 'the path' used here; but are you sure you'll ever be allowed to walk independently, on your own, as long as you fixate at the midpoint of 'the path' and continue to associate with those who want you to stay dependent and to settle for crawling with them forever?"
To be continued.
To be continued.
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with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god,"
the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation
to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.
THE EXPLANATION
Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:
"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"
THE EXPLANATION
If
looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total
waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are
resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they
are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.
Meaning?
There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept
of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa
Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in
close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and
glorify and give thanks to."
The
reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god
that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're
dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with
narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism
evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").
Next,
in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had
her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part
of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the
"loving and caring" part.
"That
is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not
an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or
anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to
want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the
'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and
caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love
and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."
Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:
"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"
--Yeshu'a (Jesus)
and
"Heaven and earth shall fade away."
and
"Heaven and earth shall fade away."
--Yeshu'a (Jesus)
and
"Heaven and hell are not geographic places
and
"Heaven and hell are not geographic places
but are states of mind, nothing more than
concepts dreamed up by men."
--Pope John Paul II
"There is no hell."
"There is no hell."
--Pope Francis, the current pope
in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,
a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record
teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.
[That
said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core
concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional
courage required to question the very existence of their institution in
light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children
and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of
billions of their members past and present.
And
that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about
why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to
continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and
conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will
they? Not likely. Why?
Because
what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the
international crime families which hold sway over the masses as
criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major
international crime families and which are the most influential and have
the largest memberships?
The
Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion
followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while
laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank);
Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers)
like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and
sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created
environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies
like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)
With
all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership
ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be
they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business,
politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and
they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the
driving forces at play.
The
masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their
groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem
because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the
people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the
masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved
with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the
continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate
the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types
of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]
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