The e-mail being addressed: My wife’s sister in law, a real nut if I were into labeling people and things, has hit a financial crisis since her husband just lost his job. She said the weird thing is that she "turned it all over to God" and now is not worried. You know, when I have "bottomed out" I have done that in the past and felt relief.
VISITOR: Well, let's try this. What if I say she stopped worrying and that is good. If you were not aware of the previous discussion, what would you say?
F.: [Note: Embedded links are for those seeking an in-depth discussion of a subject.] Just because you say she stopped worrying does not make it so. As far as calling it “good,” that's a dualistic term. For now, find WHO—that is, which ego-states—continue to advocate for the illogical and irrational thoughts and words and deeds of persons trapped in learned ignorance.
VISITOR: You know I'm not arguing, Floyd.
F.: Ha! That statement shows that you can still fool your self as much as you have been fooled by your sister-in-law and your priest and your parents and your culture. Technically, it could be said that You—the Real You—is not arguing…but that You has nothing to do with this discussion. It remains hidden from You, blocked off by all of your ideas and beliefs and concepts.
Yet what a clear picture you are providing of the ego embroiled in what it considers a "life-and-death" struggle for the survival of self, fighting for the concepts that support false identities and dis-ease and totally preventing any opportunity for the consciousness to become aware of ItSelf and find Reality and Truth.
You cannot be separated from You, but You might as well be, as out of touch with reality and with Reality and with Self as you are. It is the false you’s that are defending self and defending her ego-states of “The Great Christian Woman With Great Faith in a Great God” and “The Super Christian Who Is Serving Her Church and Her God By Publicly Declaring Her Faith And Showing How Well It Works.”
Here you are defending this supposed “Christ-follower,” yet you are both ignoring his admonition to be modest and go into your private closet to pray. You are both trapped in personality and the call is obviously for liberation from personality .
Let her attire herself in the cloak of religion; then let her profess her “faith and freedom” in her Sunday school class each weekend. Let her tell the priest about how God is working and how grateful she is to the priest for introducing her to “Him.” In the end, it’s still all nonsense and BS.
Talk never makes anything so, and the very fact that you can verbalize a concept is the proof that it cannot be the Truth. Trapped as you both are in the “mind” and its distorted thinking, neither of you can see the complete foolishness behind your claims.
Here’s an excerpt from the book SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY that provides an actual example of the effects of what “turning it over” really looks like in practice:
Denver Post, Mar. 10, 2001
GRAND JUNCTION Charges have been filed against the
parents of a 13-year-old girl who died from a common infection
that turned into gangrene after her parents opted to treat her with
prayer but not medicine. The parents were issued summonses
Friday on charges of criminally negligent homicide, reckless
manslaughter, reckless child abuse resulting in death, and
criminally negligent child abuse resulting in death. [The parents
belong to a religious sect that] believes there is a biblical
injunction against medical treatment. They treat illnesses and
injuries with prayer. In the past, church elders have said that
“when prayer fails to heal an illness and a child dies, it is God's
Do not dismiss that example with, “Floyd, we’re not crazy—we took our daughters to the doctor when they were ill.” Relate not to the behavior above but to the thinking that inspired the same kind of supernatural/magical thinking that your sister-in-law is displaying and that you are adumbrating.
And it is that type of thinking that makes you no different from those parents and which blocks you both from being reasonable and logical. Yet magical thinking is also “spin-thinking.” If prayers are not answered exactly as desired, mind-speak will be used to rewrite reality with an Orwellian 1984-style Newspeak.
Or, what Maharaj called “mind-language” will be used to “put a spin on it” if a request is not fulfilled exactly as desired; then, mouth-speak will manifest to express what the “mind” concocted; thus the comment in an earlier post: “In God’s time not mine.”
When “floyd” once asked a preacher about the low success rate of prayer (e.g., "death" happening in spite of prayers, damage from storms occurring in spite of prayers, crop failure as a result of drought in spite of prayers for rain, “relationships” ending in spite of prayers, wars in spite of prayers for peace on earth, ad infinitum) his explanation was that…
… “All prayers are answered, but you should only expect about one-third of the answers to be ‘yes.’ One-third will be ‘no’ (for your own good) and one-third will be ‘later,’ to be determined by God’s timing.”
His quoting of statistics that have no statistical basis at all is as irrational as this talk of “turning it over” and of “relief coming after having done so.” The fact is that delusion-based acts such as “turning it over” to some fictional entity provide no permanent relief from any relative problem.
Most will spend the entire manifestation being fooled by others and fooled by self, and at some point that was also the case with the Realized prior to Full Realization. Post-Realization, the registering of nonsense as nonsense starts happening spontaneously, so the Realized cannot be fooled any longer. Prior to Realization, it is logic and reason that register with the non-Realized as nonsense.
At this point, you are invited to find why it is that, after four years of exposure to these teachings, (1) you can still be fooled by the nonsense that you hear from the non-Realized and then (2) enthusiastically argue for its legitimacy. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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