From a site visitor: “Your blog today [received November 17] talked about there’s no eternal reward or punishment, I feel sorry for you. Your turning your back being saved. Your lost and your causing other people to be lost and if you do not change, you will be lost for eternity and you’ll find out that punishment forever is real.”
F.: I asked another person (who also wrote to the site to advocate the same religious concepts that you’re touting) how he even found an Advaita site. He said he was doing research on gehanna, googled “gehanna” + “christ,” found this site, spent some time searching this blog for entries on Christ, and was “appalled at the comments” he found. WHO keeps reading anything that is appalling? Moreover, WHO is appalled? And WHO is this “I” you mention who is feeling sorry for some “me”?
Truth be known, you’re only “sorry” (or fearful? or angry?) when anyone else does not believe what you believe. That’s the result of your egotism which accompanies all assumed ego-states. Ego is always about differentiation: “I am different from you” (actually meaning, “I am better than you”), or “My religion / school / state / nationality / race / sexual preferences / political party / belief systems / values / morals / ideas / and attitudes are better than yours.” Egotism, which is employed to defend and preserve false ego-states, can only disappear after false ego-states are abandoned as identities. Were you to abandon your ego-states, an opportunity could arise for you to see the lies of duality and multiplicity as well as the truth of the unicity.
But since you have not Realized and therefore do not understand that unicity, your belief in dualities such as “good vs. bad,” “right vs. wrong,” “moral vs. immoral” (and your belief that those determine “punishment or reward”) are dominating your relative existence. That inspires you to try to dominate “others” and force them to believe exactly what you believe. The Advaita suggestion to abandon all beliefs is anathema to you because of your assumption of ego-states and because of the ego defenders that are accompanying those false identities. And all of that is happening even as you think you have transcended this relative existence and have reached some metaphysical level.
During the days when “floyd” was searching every possible source for “The Answers,” many Christians like you welcomed me into their fold, greeted me with “love,” and set about the task of “saving me from hell.” Their efforts ended the moment that I began to question the discrepancies in their contradictory dogma and inconsistent conduct. Immediately their agenda changed, and instead of trying to save me from hell, they began suggesting that I should go to hell. Interesting inconsistency, yes?
Just as was the case with those persons, you too are trapped in your false identities and working to protect your religious role. You’ve also assumed the role of “The Judge” as well as the role of “The Enforcer,” using the threat of “punishment forever” to try to coerce “others” to adopt your beliefs and practices. Of all of the false identities, “The Religious One” and “The Spiritual Giant” are the last to be abandoned by persons on the “journey” to Realization. Yes, they must be played along the way, but they also must eventually be cast aside if you want to reach Full Realization. As far as “saving me for eternity,” what I shall be for eternity is exactly what I have been for eternity. It is also that which I currently AM.
How could you possibly save Me since even before your Christ, I AM? I have not been created, nor can I be destroyed, so how could any “saving” apply? I AM THAT which is invincible, limitless, eternal, and unadulterated, so how could any of your adulterated ego-states do anything to help Me, save Me, preserve Me, or purify Me? I AM THAT which is Absolute purity and I AM the temporarily manifested Absolute purity. Know Me, know THAT, and then You shall know Your Self. Then You shall understand the non-beingness that is even beyond Selfness. (It is THAT of which the re-purified consciousness spoke via the space you call “Christ.”)
So why are your comments even being addressed? Because this space had the same personal experiences as you when trapped in the fictional body-mind-personality triad and when caught up in the playing of the roles that you’re playing. You have assumed the role of “Christian” and erroneously believe that you understand what Christ was talking about in the Advaita sharings that he offered during the last three years of that manifested consciousness. You are tuned in to the pre-Realization Christ who parroted the Judaic verbiage that he was programmed with as a child.
The invitation is to tune in, instead, to the consciousness that spoke via the post-Realization Christ when it offered the truth of non-duality, the truth of the I AM, the truth of heaven fading away, and the truth of the fact that no one will ever see heaven since it’s within (specifically, within your deteriorated psyche, your programmed “mind”). If you truly believe the words of your Christ, and if you admit he said that you will never see heaven and that heaven will fade away (when the manifested consciousness "fades away"), then where would you spend eternity to receive that “heavenly reward” that you anticipate? Next, understand Gehanna and be free of your belief in the fictionalized hell that evolved as a result of persons misinterpreting Gehanna. Thereafter, freed of both your imagined heaven and your fictional hell, you can be freed of judging and separating and moralizing and condemning. Then, by understanding the non-duality message of Christ, you can be freed of all of your instability, freed of the foolishness that you believe, and freed of spreading contradictory, dualistic nonsense. Of course, that’s just a suggestion, but it was your own Christ who was reported to have said that "a dual-minded person is unstable in all ways.” Please enter the silence of contemplation.
F.: I asked another person (who also wrote to the site to advocate the same religious concepts that you’re touting) how he even found an Advaita site. He said he was doing research on gehanna, googled “gehanna” + “christ,” found this site, spent some time searching this blog for entries on Christ, and was “appalled at the comments” he found. WHO keeps reading anything that is appalling? Moreover, WHO is appalled? And WHO is this “I” you mention who is feeling sorry for some “me”?
Truth be known, you’re only “sorry” (or fearful? or angry?) when anyone else does not believe what you believe. That’s the result of your egotism which accompanies all assumed ego-states. Ego is always about differentiation: “I am different from you” (actually meaning, “I am better than you”), or “My religion / school / state / nationality / race / sexual preferences / political party / belief systems / values / morals / ideas / and attitudes are better than yours.” Egotism, which is employed to defend and preserve false ego-states, can only disappear after false ego-states are abandoned as identities. Were you to abandon your ego-states, an opportunity could arise for you to see the lies of duality and multiplicity as well as the truth of the unicity.
But since you have not Realized and therefore do not understand that unicity, your belief in dualities such as “good vs. bad,” “right vs. wrong,” “moral vs. immoral” (and your belief that those determine “punishment or reward”) are dominating your relative existence. That inspires you to try to dominate “others” and force them to believe exactly what you believe. The Advaita suggestion to abandon all beliefs is anathema to you because of your assumption of ego-states and because of the ego defenders that are accompanying those false identities. And all of that is happening even as you think you have transcended this relative existence and have reached some metaphysical level.
During the days when “floyd” was searching every possible source for “The Answers,” many Christians like you welcomed me into their fold, greeted me with “love,” and set about the task of “saving me from hell.” Their efforts ended the moment that I began to question the discrepancies in their contradictory dogma and inconsistent conduct. Immediately their agenda changed, and instead of trying to save me from hell, they began suggesting that I should go to hell. Interesting inconsistency, yes?
Just as was the case with those persons, you too are trapped in your false identities and working to protect your religious role. You’ve also assumed the role of “The Judge” as well as the role of “The Enforcer,” using the threat of “punishment forever” to try to coerce “others” to adopt your beliefs and practices. Of all of the false identities, “The Religious One” and “The Spiritual Giant” are the last to be abandoned by persons on the “journey” to Realization. Yes, they must be played along the way, but they also must eventually be cast aside if you want to reach Full Realization. As far as “saving me for eternity,” what I shall be for eternity is exactly what I have been for eternity. It is also that which I currently AM.
How could you possibly save Me since even before your Christ, I AM? I have not been created, nor can I be destroyed, so how could any “saving” apply? I AM THAT which is invincible, limitless, eternal, and unadulterated, so how could any of your adulterated ego-states do anything to help Me, save Me, preserve Me, or purify Me? I AM THAT which is Absolute purity and I AM the temporarily manifested Absolute purity. Know Me, know THAT, and then You shall know Your Self. Then You shall understand the non-beingness that is even beyond Selfness. (It is THAT of which the re-purified consciousness spoke via the space you call “Christ.”)
So why are your comments even being addressed? Because this space had the same personal experiences as you when trapped in the fictional body-mind-personality triad and when caught up in the playing of the roles that you’re playing. You have assumed the role of “Christian” and erroneously believe that you understand what Christ was talking about in the Advaita sharings that he offered during the last three years of that manifested consciousness. You are tuned in to the pre-Realization Christ who parroted the Judaic verbiage that he was programmed with as a child.
The invitation is to tune in, instead, to the consciousness that spoke via the post-Realization Christ when it offered the truth of non-duality, the truth of the I AM, the truth of heaven fading away, and the truth of the fact that no one will ever see heaven since it’s within (specifically, within your deteriorated psyche, your programmed “mind”). If you truly believe the words of your Christ, and if you admit he said that you will never see heaven and that heaven will fade away (when the manifested consciousness "fades away"), then where would you spend eternity to receive that “heavenly reward” that you anticipate? Next, understand Gehanna and be free of your belief in the fictionalized hell that evolved as a result of persons misinterpreting Gehanna. Thereafter, freed of both your imagined heaven and your fictional hell, you can be freed of judging and separating and moralizing and condemning. Then, by understanding the non-duality message of Christ, you can be freed of all of your instability, freed of the foolishness that you believe, and freed of spreading contradictory, dualistic nonsense. Of course, that’s just a suggestion, but it was your own Christ who was reported to have said that "a dual-minded person is unstable in all ways.” Please enter the silence of contemplation.
