[From yesterday] Hi Floyd, Great excitement and joy in coming across your website. Can\'t tell you how much I had wanted to ask someone about this question that\'s in mind. There are moments when the unreality of all that\'s around us, including the body and mind, is clearly seen and discarded. A wonderful state comes where not-even-the-I exist. This of course, is known only after coming out of that state. Now, the mind wants to repeat this again and stay put in that state. Its making all conscious efforts possible to get back to where it came from. Now, why is it very anxious? I sometimes, want death also to occur at the moment when this realization is strong. Afraid a bit that i might again forget to be THAT, like forgetting my TRUE SELF. What\'s the remedy for the aching mind? Vigneshwar
F.: Today, Vigneshwar, the response to the content of your e-mail received yesterday will continue and will contain the postings for two days…to be explained later. Begin by considering these words that you wrote: “Now, the mind wants to repeat this again and stay put in that state. Its making all conscious efforts possible to get back to where it came from. Now, why is it very anxious?”
1. Re-consider the pointer about “the mind” that was offered in the posting yesterday and see if it is understood: natural living happens only under the auspices of the brain. Misery and unnatural living and supernatural living happen under the auspices of the “mind.” The deer lives naturally and peacefully because it is functioning under the auspices of its brain. It has no handicap of a “mind” that you and billions are dealing with. Once a “mind” forms, the influence of its content supersedes that of the brain; after that, unnatural and/or supernatural living happens. The Advaitan poet said in his play entitled Hamlet, “There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.” All duality is rooted in the thinking “mind,” so “peace of mind” cannot happen. The “mind” must be eliminated. How? By questioning its content and realizing that all of its beliefs and ideas amount to nothing more than learned ignorance and lies.
2. If you use the search engine at the top of this page and search “want” or “desire,” you will see another contributing factor to the anxiety that you are experiencing: as long as “the mind” or “you” wants anything, anxiety will be all that you will experience. The very act of “wanting” results in the emotion of anxiety because desire is always accompanied by fear. The fear is that you won’t “get” what you want or that you’ll “lose” what you have. From your position on the “path” between steps 2 and 3 of the seven-step “journey,” you may have gathered a small glimpse of what might be—but the glimpse was enough to trigger what can develop into an addiction. As with all those suffering from untreated addictions, “death” takes on an unnatural appeal. Do not be fooled. You Are already That Which You Seek.
Also, you are already on the “path” to knowing, but you have two necessities for continuing effectively: (1) You must change course and that means you must fire the captain of your ship. Whoever has influenced you on your “journey” in a way that leaves you with the impression that “wanting death” is natural or any part of the teachings, that person is to be avoided, immediately and completely. (2) You’ll also require certain pointers to guide you through the remaining steps in order to fixate in an awareness of this fact: you are already “there” in that “place” which you have found so appealing on past occasions and are seeking permanently. You need but remove the obstacles that obstruct you from seeing that and from fixating “there.”
3. The “mind” has no desire to “stay put” in that state or any other state of inactivity or rest. The “mind,” being attached to ego-states, is driven by ego-desires. The dual desires of the ego (as mentioned in a post last week) are, first, the search, the going, the doing, the zooming, and secondly, the maintenance of the roles that are assumed while searching or seeking.
4. Do not buy into a phony bill of goods. Many will speak to you of their fixation in the samadhi state. You will then experience anxiety because they tell you that they are fixated “there” and that you can be too; yet, you’re not. Next, you “work” at “attaining bliss” and holding onto that emotion, but when your efforts fail, you become anxious. Living an AS IF existence post-Realization does not involve being in a 24/7 trance or experiencing rapturous absorption 24/7. [For those who want to write to tell me that the understanding of samadhi is flawed, save your energy and focus it instead on some new considerations, or not. Both the samadhi state and the living AS IF state have been experienced.] If your goal is to stay in a trance, then you are, in effect, suggesting that you’re willing to forgo the I AM existence and adhere only to the I AM THAT. You would be ignoring the basis of the teachings.
If you have acquaintances in a 24/7 trance, so be it. Some have been witnessed here who are in that state as a result of drug inducement, and they have enablers who allow them to remain there until the body can function no longer. So it is. But neither a trance-state nor “death” is a prerequisite for that which you are seeking. On 4 November ’06, this pointer was offered:
Acceptance of The Void, the Oblivion, the Nothingness is not about being “detached.” It is about non-attachment. Detachment does result in the robotic state of having no feelings, which you understandably want to avoid. Non-attachment involves feeling...but feeling without attachment to the feeling, without attachment to any circumstances, and without attachment to any false identifications (which leads to emotional intoxication).
Do not misinterpret the intent of the teachings. To be non-attached to the body and to be restored to being in touch with reality and to be free of a fear of death does not result in longing for death but results in living abundantly for the remainder of the manifestation.
F.: Today, Vigneshwar, the response to the content of your e-mail received yesterday will continue and will contain the postings for two days…to be explained later. Begin by considering these words that you wrote: “Now, the mind wants to repeat this again and stay put in that state. Its making all conscious efforts possible to get back to where it came from. Now, why is it very anxious?”
1. Re-consider the pointer about “the mind” that was offered in the posting yesterday and see if it is understood: natural living happens only under the auspices of the brain. Misery and unnatural living and supernatural living happen under the auspices of the “mind.” The deer lives naturally and peacefully because it is functioning under the auspices of its brain. It has no handicap of a “mind” that you and billions are dealing with. Once a “mind” forms, the influence of its content supersedes that of the brain; after that, unnatural and/or supernatural living happens. The Advaitan poet said in his play entitled Hamlet, “There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.” All duality is rooted in the thinking “mind,” so “peace of mind” cannot happen. The “mind” must be eliminated. How? By questioning its content and realizing that all of its beliefs and ideas amount to nothing more than learned ignorance and lies.
2. If you use the search engine at the top of this page and search “want” or “desire,” you will see another contributing factor to the anxiety that you are experiencing: as long as “the mind” or “you” wants anything, anxiety will be all that you will experience. The very act of “wanting” results in the emotion of anxiety because desire is always accompanied by fear. The fear is that you won’t “get” what you want or that you’ll “lose” what you have. From your position on the “path” between steps 2 and 3 of the seven-step “journey,” you may have gathered a small glimpse of what might be—but the glimpse was enough to trigger what can develop into an addiction. As with all those suffering from untreated addictions, “death” takes on an unnatural appeal. Do not be fooled. You Are already That Which You Seek.
Also, you are already on the “path” to knowing, but you have two necessities for continuing effectively: (1) You must change course and that means you must fire the captain of your ship. Whoever has influenced you on your “journey” in a way that leaves you with the impression that “wanting death” is natural or any part of the teachings, that person is to be avoided, immediately and completely. (2) You’ll also require certain pointers to guide you through the remaining steps in order to fixate in an awareness of this fact: you are already “there” in that “place” which you have found so appealing on past occasions and are seeking permanently. You need but remove the obstacles that obstruct you from seeing that and from fixating “there.”
3. The “mind” has no desire to “stay put” in that state or any other state of inactivity or rest. The “mind,” being attached to ego-states, is driven by ego-desires. The dual desires of the ego (as mentioned in a post last week) are, first, the search, the going, the doing, the zooming, and secondly, the maintenance of the roles that are assumed while searching or seeking.
4. Do not buy into a phony bill of goods. Many will speak to you of their fixation in the samadhi state. You will then experience anxiety because they tell you that they are fixated “there” and that you can be too; yet, you’re not. Next, you “work” at “attaining bliss” and holding onto that emotion, but when your efforts fail, you become anxious. Living an AS IF existence post-Realization does not involve being in a 24/7 trance or experiencing rapturous absorption 24/7. [For those who want to write to tell me that the understanding of samadhi is flawed, save your energy and focus it instead on some new considerations, or not. Both the samadhi state and the living AS IF state have been experienced.] If your goal is to stay in a trance, then you are, in effect, suggesting that you’re willing to forgo the I AM existence and adhere only to the I AM THAT. You would be ignoring the basis of the teachings.
If you have acquaintances in a 24/7 trance, so be it. Some have been witnessed here who are in that state as a result of drug inducement, and they have enablers who allow them to remain there until the body can function no longer. So it is. But neither a trance-state nor “death” is a prerequisite for that which you are seeking. On 4 November ’06, this pointer was offered:
Acceptance of The Void, the Oblivion, the Nothingness is not about being “detached.” It is about non-attachment. Detachment does result in the robotic state of having no feelings, which you understandably want to avoid. Non-attachment involves feeling...but feeling without attachment to the feeling, without attachment to any circumstances, and without attachment to any false identifications (which leads to emotional intoxication).
Do not misinterpret the intent of the teachings. To be non-attached to the body and to be restored to being in touch with reality and to be free of a fear of death does not result in longing for death but results in living abundantly for the remainder of the manifestation.
So what other possibilities are available? Rather than being immobilized in a trance-state or in a coffin or on a funeral pyre, post-Realization you can engage in gainful employment, can play, can delight in a tasty meal, can dance with exuberance, can share a hearty laugh or participate in a sorrowful cry that begins at the depths of your being and surfaces in the tears that run down the face. Realized, you can feel joy and you can feel sadness, but you will merely witness either without becoming emotionally-intoxicated.
To “sometimes want death” is evidence of emotional intoxication, and emotional intoxication always indicates the presence of ego-states being assumed as identities. Do not limit your understanding of that which You Are, and do not accept limitations regarding that which the I Amness can enjoy. Yet that can only be enjoyed if you are not duped by those who would sell you a measure of numbness which they are presenting as so-called “spirituality” and which they have packaged and wrapped in the attractive casings of mysticism. Realized, You can still feel without emoting, and neither “death” nor “death-in-life” need be. In fact, to be in touch with reality—to be restored to sanity—leads to a natural, instinctive will to survive without any attachment or fear about not surviving. The bird that is startled in the woods by a hiker flies away to preserve the consciousness. Yes, it experiences temporarily a form of fear that nature uses to assure an extension to the manifestation of the space and an extension of the manifestation of the consciousness, but no bird or fish or mammal—all living naturally—wants death.
Consider: what happened with the space called “floyd” post-Realization was that teaching happened without a teacher. A paycheck came without doing but from merely being. If teaching happened, okay. If teaching was interrupted and did not happen on any given day, okay. Would that not be close enough for you to the samadhi state while also enjoying the natural fullness of the remainder of the I AM, AS IF existence?
Another part of the reason that you are experiencing such turmoil or instability is that you are not fixating in that “place” where You want to be…to just BE. Another reason is because you seem to think that such a “place” for fixation is separate and apart from the “place” where you are now. That’s duality. Split not the I AM and the I AM THAT. Complete the “journey” and you will abide as the pure consciousness as well as the Absolute, and that is “not two.”
As for your “peace of mind,” know that the manifested consciousness is organic energy, so it will be in motion constantly. But that motion can be a natural, enjoyable “brain-thing” or it can be a miserable, ghastly “mind thing.” As a child, you did not experience the degree of movement that you are now experiencing because the consciousness then was not as corrupted as it is now. To be free of the corrupted consciousness, the remaining steps must be completed. For now, that is enough for you to ponder for the next forty-eight hours. More responses to the content of your e-mail will be offered Thursday morning, not Wednesday morning. [This consciousness has been called forth from the silence and has consented to offer satsanga in Austin, Texas, so no posting will happen on Wednesday.] Please enter the silence of contemplation.
Consider: what happened with the space called “floyd” post-Realization was that teaching happened without a teacher. A paycheck came without doing but from merely being. If teaching happened, okay. If teaching was interrupted and did not happen on any given day, okay. Would that not be close enough for you to the samadhi state while also enjoying the natural fullness of the remainder of the I AM, AS IF existence?
Another part of the reason that you are experiencing such turmoil or instability is that you are not fixating in that “place” where You want to be…to just BE. Another reason is because you seem to think that such a “place” for fixation is separate and apart from the “place” where you are now. That’s duality. Split not the I AM and the I AM THAT. Complete the “journey” and you will abide as the pure consciousness as well as the Absolute, and that is “not two.”
As for your “peace of mind,” know that the manifested consciousness is organic energy, so it will be in motion constantly. But that motion can be a natural, enjoyable “brain-thing” or it can be a miserable, ghastly “mind thing.” As a child, you did not experience the degree of movement that you are now experiencing because the consciousness then was not as corrupted as it is now. To be free of the corrupted consciousness, the remaining steps must be completed. For now, that is enough for you to ponder for the next forty-eight hours. More responses to the content of your e-mail will be offered Thursday morning, not Wednesday morning. [This consciousness has been called forth from the silence and has consented to offer satsanga in Austin, Texas, so no posting will happen on Wednesday.] Please enter the silence of contemplation.