Friday, May 09, 2008

PRE-MANIFESTATION, MANIFESTED, POST-MANIFESTATION: How “I AM THAT; I AM” IS NON-DUAL

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FROM A SITE VISITOR: Thanks for the may 7 and 8 writings explaining that this period of manifestation doesn’t have to be any different from the pre-mani. and post-mani. I finally “got it,” as you said. Gerald

F.: Several had the same realization, Gerald. For others that have asked for further explanation, the following is offered:


It’s no different from the “snake in a rope” teaching device: the rope was not a snake in “the past,” is not a snake now, and will not be a snake in “the future.”


Furthermore, who said “the rope” is “a rope”? It’s not. Any persons who think “the rope” is a snake or even think that “the rope” is really a rope (just because someone in the past said so) is not perceiving reality.


Even relatively speaking, understand that the rope did not have the “form” or “shape” of a rope prior to. What is now labelled “a rope” was merely certain natural elements that had not yet combined to form the space currently being called “a rope.”


As with persons, what the rope appears to be is not what it is, and what those persons in darkness take the rope to be (namely, a snake) is certainly not what it is.


For those who think the rope will always be a rope, they do not understand the Laws of Thermodynamics which insure that whatever elements “come together” in the relative existence will most definitely “come part.”


Similarly, persons were not persons in “the past” (who signed off on some “sacred contract”); they are not persons now; and they will not be persons in “the future.” All persons are personas, assumed personalities that are not real.


Understand that no person had any “form” or personal “shape” prior to. What is now labelled “a human” was originally certain natural elements that had not yet combined to form the space currently being called “a boy or girl” or “a male or female human” (and which played a role in a scenario by which another speck of consciousness manifested).


As with the misperceived rope, what persons appear to be is not what IS, and what persons (the non-Realized yet in darkness) take themselves to be is certainly not truth. That which is merely an appearance in consciousness is never what it appears to be.


For those who think that their bodies and “minds” and personas will experience eternal continuity, they do not understand the Laws of Thermodynamics which insure that whatever elements “come together” in the relative existence will most definitely “come part.”


[To site visitor Alex: Your questions regarding “heaven and hell” will be answered in an upcoming post. For now, you are invited to re-read the paragraph above and the three paragraphs that follow and consider those pointers for 72 hours.]


When the elemental plant-food body returns to the elements, the elemental brain in which the “mind” content is stored and in which belief in personas is stored, will be no more.


Post-manifestation, there will be no eternal self, no eternal Self, and no eternal Supreme Self. There will be no self-ness or Self-ness of any kind, the Absolute being beyond beingness and non-beingness as well.


All “ropes in the relative” will eventually “dis-integrate” as far as form is concerned and the elements will return to their original elemental form. So too shall all persons / humans. The difference is that persons could Realize and then function NOW with the freedom and independence that can occur if abidance happens as THAT original nature.


Post-Realization, You would know Your original nature and abide as such; the peace of that prior, pre-manifestation, no-thinking state could happen NOW; and awareness without any “one” to be aware could happen NOW. Realized, there is no duality at all involved with the "I AM THAT" and the "I AM." Please enter the silence of contemplation.

FOR FURTHER READING ON TODAY’S TOPIC:

  • Click WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
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  • Click THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS “PEACE OF MIND” (There Is Only Peace If You’re Out of Your Mind)
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  • Click LIBERATION
  • UPCOMING POSTS: Ravi asks about the role of body and brain post-enlightenment and Alex (“programmed by catholicism”) asks about the validity of heaven and hell and associated fears.

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