Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
FROM A SITE VISITOR: Seems you’d have to be out of touch to claim nothing external can affect you. Also, your statements are confusing about living as the absolute or living naturally – witnessing real or witnessing objects. Since I realized I only witness purely, so why say s-o witnessing is not a problem. It is THE problem when it comes to humans that have not realized. Explain.
F.: As you command. First, the only thing “internal” that can affect the way that the Realized feel is organic…is elemental. Among the non-Realized, that which is internal and affects disposition or “the humours” can involve the elemental and / or the “mind” (itself a distortion-filled storage compartment within the elemental brain).
One of Maharaj’s pointers seems to contradict certain pointers offered here when he said, “Mind-flow is always external, never internal.” Yet the seeming contradiction ends when you read his clarification: “In the inward ‘journey,’ that external mind-flow comes to a complete halt.”
It is in that pre-journey, co-dependent condition that internals appear to be external, even causing persons to think they see a world, to believe that they are in it, and to believe it is as they see it. It is also in that pre-journey, co-dependent condition that internals appear to be external because the “mind” and the “ego” prefer to focus on externals and credit or blame them for whatever the internal state is:
"He / she made me happy”; or “he / she made me sad”; or “he / she makes me mad.” It is in that pre-journey condition that the way a person “feels” (actually, “emotes”) only appears to have something to do with externals such as people and places and things; however, it is actually the bogus content of the “mind” that sets off internal angst that is assumed to have been triggered by an external source.
Further, what you really have not yet understood when you speak of abiding as the Absolute vs. abiding naturally is the difference-without-difference in regards to the THAT-ness and the Am-ness.
To abide naturally is to abide as the presently manifested consciousness which was THAT prior to manifestation and is a form of THAT now and which shall be THAT post-manifestation. What IS has also “been” and shall forever “be.”
Shared here before is this pointer: You Are That Which Is, Was, and Shall Be, devoid of body or mind or personality when unmanifested and capable, via Full Realization, of being free of body identification and a corrupted “mind” and personas while manifested.
What you are not is what you appear to be or assume to be or try to be or have been told you are.
Water (H20) can rise in the “form” of vapor (H20) and form clouds (H20) from which H20 can eventually fall back to earth as hail (H20) or snow (H20) or sleet (H20) or rain (H20) and can form a snow drift (H20), ice (H20), a rivulet (H20), a brook (H20), a stream (H20), a streamlet (H20), a creek (H20), a river (H20), a lake (H20), an ocean (H20), etc.
To witness “rainfall” in a subject-object fashion is natural; however, it would be ignorant / unnatural to claim that it is something different from that which sleet and hail and snow are. All of that is H20, but even informed persons might claim each is a different form of one thing: H20.
In fact, the fully informed will understand that form is not substance, that appearance is not actual. So, too, do the Realized know the difference in form and substance, in appearance and real. Yet that cannot prevent the supposed “forms” from appearing before the eyes and being either misunderstood or understood. Pure witnessing does not stop S-O witnessing. It does end misperceptions regarding what is supposedly seen.
For you to suggest that, post-Realization, only Pure Witnessing happens would suggest that the first time you approach a car that is stopped at a red light, you will see yourself as being at-one with the car. Ignoring form, that will be the case since you will plow right into the back of the car in front of you because you—being so Realized—no longer see form. Please.
Realization does not negate the relative manifestation, only the misperceiving that goes on among the non-Realized masses. S-O witnessing must continue. It simply continues without judgment or deception or misperception.
A squirrel comes by daily and pauses to visit (actually, to put an eye on this elemental body and gawk with what is becoming more frequently a near-derisive look) as I emulate the sounds of a squirrel that is in the mood for mating.
He looks at this body and hears the sounds coming from it and glares from behind the fence at this form that is a few feet away—trying to distinguish the form it is seeing from the “substance”—in this case, the substance being the essence of that which the squirrel-manifested consciousness is spontaneously driven to seek this time of year.
So the squirrel stares at this form, knowing something does not seem quite “right,” knowing that something is not corresponding “rightly” regarding the form it is witnessing in a S-O fashion with the substance that it is familiar with and which it would enjoy. Its initial attraction a week ago has recently deteriorated into what appears to be more of a detached disdain—
seeming to have tired of being “fooled” initially but still willing to humor this form’s silly sounds with a few moments of attention.
How many persons can witness so accurately and detect discontinuity? How many persons are tired of being fooled as opposed to the number who are still willing to fight to the finish to defend beliefs that were heard coming from the forms that fooled them in the past?
How many persons cannot perceive even as accurately as a pea-size-brained squirrel? How many prefer to cling to the beliefs that make fools of them still?
How many times during your own relative existence have you believed that the sounds coming from human forms were telling you the truth, only to find later that you had been deceived by them?
How many spoke to you of your nation's illustrious history, of their god or gods, of the deep feelings they have for you, of how endless their love of you shall be? How much of that proved to be true? Is your ability to perceive even as developed as that of the squirrel that is not being fooled at all by the sounds coming from this form?
Louise wrote: “Recently, there was just this single view: the sense of “self” and “other” like transparent shells. This is all “we” really are, isn’t it? What appears to distinguish and define is really just this mix of flavourings – personality and perceived preferences? When these are seen as additives, what remains?”
The reply: If they are seen as additives and purged, then nothing remains except a series of lovely micro-seconds, one after another, all rolling along spontaneously until the end of the manifestation.
As long as the consciousness is manifest, then S-O witnessing must continue, even as misperceiving is eliminated when pure witnessing happens alongside, just as the THAT-ness and the Am-ness happen throughout the remainder of the post-Realization manifestation, "not" as “two” but as one.
The same applies with witnessing: having seen THAT does not preclude seeing “this” and “that”; however, it does preclude seeing “this” and “that” as something they are not.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
One of Maharaj’s pointers seems to contradict certain pointers offered here when he said, “Mind-flow is always external, never internal.” Yet the seeming contradiction ends when you read his clarification: “In the inward ‘journey,’ that external mind-flow comes to a complete halt.”
It is in that pre-journey, co-dependent condition that internals appear to be external, even causing persons to think they see a world, to believe that they are in it, and to believe it is as they see it. It is also in that pre-journey, co-dependent condition that internals appear to be external because the “mind” and the “ego” prefer to focus on externals and credit or blame them for whatever the internal state is:
"He / she made me happy”; or “he / she made me sad”; or “he / she makes me mad.” It is in that pre-journey condition that the way a person “feels” (actually, “emotes”) only appears to have something to do with externals such as people and places and things; however, it is actually the bogus content of the “mind” that sets off internal angst that is assumed to have been triggered by an external source.
Further, what you really have not yet understood when you speak of abiding as the Absolute vs. abiding naturally is the difference-without-difference in regards to the THAT-ness and the Am-ness.
To abide naturally is to abide as the presently manifested consciousness which was THAT prior to manifestation and is a form of THAT now and which shall be THAT post-manifestation. What IS has also “been” and shall forever “be.”
Shared here before is this pointer: You Are That Which Is, Was, and Shall Be, devoid of body or mind or personality when unmanifested and capable, via Full Realization, of being free of body identification and a corrupted “mind” and personas while manifested.
What you are not is what you appear to be or assume to be or try to be or have been told you are.
Water (H20) can rise in the “form” of vapor (H20) and form clouds (H20) from which H20 can eventually fall back to earth as hail (H20) or snow (H20) or sleet (H20) or rain (H20) and can form a snow drift (H20), ice (H20), a rivulet (H20), a brook (H20), a stream (H20), a streamlet (H20), a creek (H20), a river (H20), a lake (H20), an ocean (H20), etc.
To witness “rainfall” in a subject-object fashion is natural; however, it would be ignorant / unnatural to claim that it is something different from that which sleet and hail and snow are. All of that is H20, but even informed persons might claim each is a different form of one thing: H20.
In fact, the fully informed will understand that form is not substance, that appearance is not actual. So, too, do the Realized know the difference in form and substance, in appearance and real. Yet that cannot prevent the supposed “forms” from appearing before the eyes and being either misunderstood or understood. Pure witnessing does not stop S-O witnessing. It does end misperceptions regarding what is supposedly seen.
For you to suggest that, post-Realization, only Pure Witnessing happens would suggest that the first time you approach a car that is stopped at a red light, you will see yourself as being at-one with the car. Ignoring form, that will be the case since you will plow right into the back of the car in front of you because you—being so Realized—no longer see form. Please.
Realization does not negate the relative manifestation, only the misperceiving that goes on among the non-Realized masses. S-O witnessing must continue. It simply continues without judgment or deception or misperception.
A squirrel comes by daily and pauses to visit (actually, to put an eye on this elemental body and gawk with what is becoming more frequently a near-derisive look) as I emulate the sounds of a squirrel that is in the mood for mating.
He looks at this body and hears the sounds coming from it and glares from behind the fence at this form that is a few feet away—trying to distinguish the form it is seeing from the “substance”—in this case, the substance being the essence of that which the squirrel-manifested consciousness is spontaneously driven to seek this time of year.
So the squirrel stares at this form, knowing something does not seem quite “right,” knowing that something is not corresponding “rightly” regarding the form it is witnessing in a S-O fashion with the substance that it is familiar with and which it would enjoy. Its initial attraction a week ago has recently deteriorated into what appears to be more of a detached disdain—
seeming to have tired of being “fooled” initially but still willing to humor this form’s silly sounds with a few moments of attention.
How many persons can witness so accurately and detect discontinuity? How many persons are tired of being fooled as opposed to the number who are still willing to fight to the finish to defend beliefs that were heard coming from the forms that fooled them in the past?
How many persons cannot perceive even as accurately as a pea-size-brained squirrel? How many prefer to cling to the beliefs that make fools of them still?
How many times during your own relative existence have you believed that the sounds coming from human forms were telling you the truth, only to find later that you had been deceived by them?
How many spoke to you of your nation's illustrious history, of their god or gods, of the deep feelings they have for you, of how endless their love of you shall be? How much of that proved to be true? Is your ability to perceive even as developed as that of the squirrel that is not being fooled at all by the sounds coming from this form?
Louise wrote: “Recently, there was just this single view: the sense of “self” and “other” like transparent shells. This is all “we” really are, isn’t it? What appears to distinguish and define is really just this mix of flavourings – personality and perceived preferences? When these are seen as additives, what remains?”
The reply: If they are seen as additives and purged, then nothing remains except a series of lovely micro-seconds, one after another, all rolling along spontaneously until the end of the manifestation.
As long as the consciousness is manifest, then S-O witnessing must continue, even as misperceiving is eliminated when pure witnessing happens alongside, just as the THAT-ness and the Am-ness happen throughout the remainder of the post-Realization manifestation, "not" as “two” but as one.
The same applies with witnessing: having seen THAT does not preclude seeing “this” and “that”; however, it does preclude seeing “this” and “that” as something they are not.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
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THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
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For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
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3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
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To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
