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FROM A SITE VISITOR: f, As If living is the norm now, but occasionally something will be seen that will bring about feelings of outrage. Must be the last stubborn "justice" or "fairness" persona? Mind still exists?
F.: [Continued from 1 April 2010. Please review:]
The "numbness" referred to does not suggest that nothing will be felt by the Realized. It points to the fact that no emotional intoxication will be the driving force of an individual, all individuality having disappeared when everything thought to be "personal" disappeared.
Realized, contentment happens as a result of "returning to" that no-mind state. [So, to the visitor's question: "Mind still exist?" The answer: Yes.] Contentment happens as a result of removing the layers of concepts that obscure consciousness so that it is as available as it was during the brief period of childhood that happened prior to the obscuring of the consciousness.
During the recent vacation, there was a visit to the eighty-five-year-old one called “Mother.” Her current condition after a stroke and a series of “mini-strokes” is this: after several months, considerable physical and mental recovery has happened to the degree that a coherent conversation can happen, but little is initiated on her part. The child-like state has been entered again, and opinion-less witnessing happens consistently.
Her preference is to listen, to observe, and to respond (for the most part, only if addressed); the quiet is preferred; no emotional intoxication is happening. As with the one called “Father” who began giving away material possessions before he took mahasamadhi, she, too, has de-accumulated almost all that is material and all that is mental or emotional or conceptual or debatable or based in opinions and ideas.
The no-mind state is evidenced regularly, and though physical infirmities rather than Full Realization have contributed most to that condition, the results are quite similar to the returns of Full Realization that are enjoyed for the remainder of the manifestation.
In both cases, the effects are seemingly the same, yet a difference exists: whereas persons who are infirmed or comatose can seem to be peaceful and neutral and non-combative as a result of being near-catatonic or unaware, the Realize enjoy in full awareness the silence, the absence of being driven to talk incessantly, and freedom from emotional intoxication.
Why tout being physically sober if one is mentally and / or emotionally and / or spiritually intoxicated? The presence of any of those types of numbness are not required for the absence of outrage to manifest.
It was noted yesterday, in an e-mail exchange with a site regular, the way that some persons approaching what they call “death” will "process and accept," after which they begin to de-accumulate, to abandon the fight, to find nothing to become emotional about, to enter into a position of neutrality, and to merely observe.
Yet those approaching what they take to be “death” often only have days or months to enjoy that bliss. That is why seekers here are invited to accept this understanding now, so they can enjoy all of that for the entire remainder of the manifestation. That is why site visitors who are so in fear of death as a result of body identification and a result of their desire for body continuity are encouraged to “go ahead and die now and get it over with.”
[Earlier, the reference was to what persons “call death.” As Kipling explained,
The words were written as if from a son who was killed in WWI, but the same lies triggered death squads in Central America, the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, all of the the wars in Afghanistan from the time of Alexander the Great to the present. All fighting and wars and killings and outrage have all been rooted in lies, be the lies told by cultures, big businesses, organized religion, mates, states, or nations.
Realization is about being able to differentiate lies from truth.
Yet there is so much preoccupation with the lies about birth and death. Some are appalled and question the direction in “the final will and testament” to cremate the remains of what most call “floyd.” Those types, who are attached to the body, try to anesthetize themselves against their acculturation-induced fears and suffering and misery with stultifying ritual and pomp and ceremony. Those who are comatose have no such fear, and neither do the Realized. Die now. Awake now.]
Imagine how peacefully the remainder of the manifestation could be if “death” were accepted now. What else could possibly be “unacceptable”? What else could possibly stir “outrage”? If one dies the death of body and mind and personality identification now, then the mode of AS IF living referenced in the e-mail above can happen, and can happen consistently.
Then, even the cares and concerns about the steps on the “path” to Realization will fall away. Of all the guidance from an outer guru and the inner guru that was focused on so intently, the Realized eventually will care not at all about any of that.
The “knowledge” debate will come to an end, for what the seeker “knew” at various points during the "journey" will be “forgotten.” The point of the seemingly endless pointers becomes simple: to bring the seeker to complete perfection (that is, to a sense of wholeness and completeness and needlessness and fearlessness because of the understanding having manifested). After that, it all can be “forgotten.”
The focus will be on AS IF living, not on seeking. The focus will be on being, not doing. Witnessing rather than reacting will prevail. The relative existence will take on the character of an independent duchy almost—the "place where" the one called “Mother” presently abides, even though not always aware that she is “there.”
Realize and You too shall abide as an independent duchy, but You will be awake and aware and conscious of that Reality, and You will witness without “outrage” and therefore understand the uninterrupted and unassailable bliss. Then, Your duchy can never be invaded, for the masses will never have the slightest clue about “where” it is that You live.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
The "numbness" referred to does not suggest that nothing will be felt by the Realized. It points to the fact that no emotional intoxication will be the driving force of an individual, all individuality having disappeared when everything thought to be "personal" disappeared.
Realized, contentment happens as a result of "returning to" that no-mind state. [So, to the visitor's question: "Mind still exist?" The answer: Yes.] Contentment happens as a result of removing the layers of concepts that obscure consciousness so that it is as available as it was during the brief period of childhood that happened prior to the obscuring of the consciousness.
During the recent vacation, there was a visit to the eighty-five-year-old one called “Mother.” Her current condition after a stroke and a series of “mini-strokes” is this: after several months, considerable physical and mental recovery has happened to the degree that a coherent conversation can happen, but little is initiated on her part. The child-like state has been entered again, and opinion-less witnessing happens consistently.
Her preference is to listen, to observe, and to respond (for the most part, only if addressed); the quiet is preferred; no emotional intoxication is happening. As with the one called “Father” who began giving away material possessions before he took mahasamadhi, she, too, has de-accumulated almost all that is material and all that is mental or emotional or conceptual or debatable or based in opinions and ideas.
The no-mind state is evidenced regularly, and though physical infirmities rather than Full Realization have contributed most to that condition, the results are quite similar to the returns of Full Realization that are enjoyed for the remainder of the manifestation.
In both cases, the effects are seemingly the same, yet a difference exists: whereas persons who are infirmed or comatose can seem to be peaceful and neutral and non-combative as a result of being near-catatonic or unaware, the Realize enjoy in full awareness the silence, the absence of being driven to talk incessantly, and freedom from emotional intoxication.
Why tout being physically sober if one is mentally and / or emotionally and / or spiritually intoxicated? The presence of any of those types of numbness are not required for the absence of outrage to manifest.
It was noted yesterday, in an e-mail exchange with a site regular, the way that some persons approaching what they call “death” will "process and accept," after which they begin to de-accumulate, to abandon the fight, to find nothing to become emotional about, to enter into a position of neutrality, and to merely observe.
Yet those approaching what they take to be “death” often only have days or months to enjoy that bliss. That is why seekers here are invited to accept this understanding now, so they can enjoy all of that for the entire remainder of the manifestation. That is why site visitors who are so in fear of death as a result of body identification and a result of their desire for body continuity are encouraged to “go ahead and die now and get it over with.”
[Earlier, the reference was to what persons “call death.” As Kipling explained,
“If any question why we died,
Tell them because our fathers lied.”
Tell them because our fathers lied.”
The words were written as if from a son who was killed in WWI, but the same lies triggered death squads in Central America, the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, all of the the wars in Afghanistan from the time of Alexander the Great to the present. All fighting and wars and killings and outrage have all been rooted in lies, be the lies told by cultures, big businesses, organized religion, mates, states, or nations.
Realization is about being able to differentiate lies from truth.
Yet there is so much preoccupation with the lies about birth and death. Some are appalled and question the direction in “the final will and testament” to cremate the remains of what most call “floyd.” Those types, who are attached to the body, try to anesthetize themselves against their acculturation-induced fears and suffering and misery with stultifying ritual and pomp and ceremony. Those who are comatose have no such fear, and neither do the Realized. Die now. Awake now.]
Imagine how peacefully the remainder of the manifestation could be if “death” were accepted now. What else could possibly be “unacceptable”? What else could possibly stir “outrage”? If one dies the death of body and mind and personality identification now, then the mode of AS IF living referenced in the e-mail above can happen, and can happen consistently.
Then, even the cares and concerns about the steps on the “path” to Realization will fall away. Of all the guidance from an outer guru and the inner guru that was focused on so intently, the Realized eventually will care not at all about any of that.
The “knowledge” debate will come to an end, for what the seeker “knew” at various points during the "journey" will be “forgotten.” The point of the seemingly endless pointers becomes simple: to bring the seeker to complete perfection (that is, to a sense of wholeness and completeness and needlessness and fearlessness because of the understanding having manifested). After that, it all can be “forgotten.”
The focus will be on AS IF living, not on seeking. The focus will be on being, not doing. Witnessing rather than reacting will prevail. The relative existence will take on the character of an independent duchy almost—the "place where" the one called “Mother” presently abides, even though not always aware that she is “there.”
Realize and You too shall abide as an independent duchy, but You will be awake and aware and conscious of that Reality, and You will witness without “outrage” and therefore understand the uninterrupted and unassailable bliss. Then, Your duchy can never be invaded, for the masses will never have the slightest clue about “where” it is that You live.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
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For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
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IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
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THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
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