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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
This is the first joint posting and came about spontaneously. More may happen spontaneously…or not.
“As self-identification with the body-mind is the poison that brings bondage, seek liberation by seeing that OneSelf is not any thing personal or perceivable.”
– Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
– Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
Louise: Walking this planet, the majority of people are misidentified with the first three layers of cloud cover – the body, mind and personality. They are unaware of their already existing Real Nature, hypnotized by the web of beliefs, ideas or concepts that keep them functioning as separate individuals in a world of duality.
F.: And it is the false belief that they are separate individuals / personalities / egos that sets the stage for the assumption of individual identities and which, in turn, sets the stage for fluctuation and instability and varying periods of (imagined) happiness and various periods of unhappiness.
L.: Not only are most people hypnotized by this false understanding, they will argue vehemently that they are happy and fulfilled. It is this level of denial that prompts so few to search for a way out. It is like a shoal of fish caught inside a net – many of the fish will simply continue to swim inside the confines of the net, unaware that they are trapped and separated from the ocean.
F.: To continue with Louise's metaphor, what are some of the nets in which persons continue to swim, thinking they are free while actually confined and trapped, limited and restricted? Beyond the nine basic personality types, hundreds of other personalities will be assumed during the relative existence, assuring entrapment.
Consider, for example, one personality that is a limiting, confining net: “The Spouse.” As always, when a persona is assumed, arrogance and egotism soon manifest as mechanisms that are used to support and defend the false role as being real.
At some point after a man in a robe says, “I now pronounce you man and wife” or “husband and wife,” the egotism that accompanies all personality assumption will inspire the playing of "The Upgrade Game"; then, the ego-state will elevate the status of itself thusly: “I now pronounce me Super Wife” or “I now pronounce me Super Husband.”
Now all that the ego-state of “wife” needs to continue to believe it is a real identity is someone willing to play the co-dependent counterpart, namely, one willing to believe he really is “a husband.”
However, since ego-states are always involved in upgrading and downgrading because of egotism, then, as shown above, “the wife” will upgrade herself (her false self) to “The Super Wife” who then needs something quite different from "The Wife Only" in order to believe that her upgraded personality is a real identity. What she must have after that upgrade in order to "survive" (in her "mind") is “A Super Husband.”
Soon, she will take any action by her spouse (that is, any action which does not align with her belief system about what constitutes a super husband) as an actual threat to her very existence.
Consider the level of distortion when the belief comes that “I, the Super Wife, am personally under attack by this guy because he is not being Super Husband, which is a requirement for me to even exist. For me to survive, I shall either have to change him into what my image of a Super Husband looks like or I shall have to leave and go find another man who can truly be a Super Husband. I deserve so much better.”
So the chain of events typically moves from stranger to acquaintance to friend to good friend to lover to fiancé / fiancée to spouse to upgraded spouse to threatened spouse to one being attacked to ex-spouse to seeker of a different stranger that can become an acquaintance and a friend and a potential spouse with the possibility of eventually qualifying as a super spouse.
And the same happens with men except they usually do not leave. Once they become Super Husband and feel they do not have a Super Wife, they usually just use that arrogance-based belief as justification to go out and find "Super Lover on the Side" that can give them what they deserve but are not receiving.
And that is the way things unfold with the assumption of just one role / personality among hundreds, all of which initially provide pleasure and all of which eventually provide displeasure, moving from personality (ego) to upgrading a personal identity to being motivated by arrogance (egotism).
Few will ever realize the lies and resulting misery of personality assumption since few will ever hear that explanation and since even the few who might hear such pointers while trapped as they are in the belief that their false personas are real will usually react in what manner?
L.: When identified as a separate individual in the world, bound by mind, body, personality and the network of lies that keep this imaginary structure intact, even if the Advaitan teachings are discovered, they may seem inexplicable. The mind may be unable to grasp any intellectual meaning or understanding.
F.: What can happen, though, in those rare instances (a) if even a tiny fissure occurs in the heap of blockages and (b) if that allows enough light to shine through so that the inner resource—the inner guru—is afforded the opportunity see the distortions of personality and (c) if the pure consciousness is afforded even a slight glimpse that begins to bring about a differentiation in true and false?
L.: There is likely to be an instant recognition of Truth. Here, there was more than an instant recognition, but a deep sense of relief and relaxation, often accompanied by spontaneous tears. This was the relief of recognizing the warm, calm, safe water of True understanding – after years of enculturated nonsense.
F.: Many will ask, “That all sounds well and good, but how can it happen for me?”
L.: How to be free of these dense layers of conditioned beliefs and concepts? The Advaitan teachings invite You to de-accumulate and unlearn – in other words to see the beliefs and concepts as false and allow them to dissolve. Can You see that the object is to DISSOLVE the layers of cloud cover and replace them with NOTHING – no new clouds, no new ideas, no new concepts? Can you see that acquiring any new ideas will simply be creating another layer of cloud cover, replacing one set of concepts with another set of concepts?
F.: To that end, this pointer has been offered here in the past:
Yet many allow the arguments of “the mind” and its assumed personas to continue to interfere with a seeing of the Truth that can being misery and suffering to an end, so attached are they to their roles: “Floyd, I have to be an employee to pay the bills” and “I have to be the husband. We have a family and a home and our routines that I enjoy.”
[The duality involved with that is that the same person can contact this site a month later and claim that he is ready to kill or die or both because “wife” is threatening to leave.]
So this pointer has been offered:
And employee-ing can happen and “father-ing” can happen or “mother-ing” can happen and all else can happen without buying into the false belief that such personalities / personas / false identities are real, that such mirages can be threatened, or that an image or illusion can provide true peace and stability. It cannot; it will not.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
F.: And it is the false belief that they are separate individuals / personalities / egos that sets the stage for the assumption of individual identities and which, in turn, sets the stage for fluctuation and instability and varying periods of (imagined) happiness and various periods of unhappiness.
L.: Not only are most people hypnotized by this false understanding, they will argue vehemently that they are happy and fulfilled. It is this level of denial that prompts so few to search for a way out. It is like a shoal of fish caught inside a net – many of the fish will simply continue to swim inside the confines of the net, unaware that they are trapped and separated from the ocean.
F.: To continue with Louise's metaphor, what are some of the nets in which persons continue to swim, thinking they are free while actually confined and trapped, limited and restricted? Beyond the nine basic personality types, hundreds of other personalities will be assumed during the relative existence, assuring entrapment.
Consider, for example, one personality that is a limiting, confining net: “The Spouse.” As always, when a persona is assumed, arrogance and egotism soon manifest as mechanisms that are used to support and defend the false role as being real.
At some point after a man in a robe says, “I now pronounce you man and wife” or “husband and wife,” the egotism that accompanies all personality assumption will inspire the playing of "The Upgrade Game"; then, the ego-state will elevate the status of itself thusly: “I now pronounce me Super Wife” or “I now pronounce me Super Husband.”
Now all that the ego-state of “wife” needs to continue to believe it is a real identity is someone willing to play the co-dependent counterpart, namely, one willing to believe he really is “a husband.”
However, since ego-states are always involved in upgrading and downgrading because of egotism, then, as shown above, “the wife” will upgrade herself (her false self) to “The Super Wife” who then needs something quite different from "The Wife Only" in order to believe that her upgraded personality is a real identity. What she must have after that upgrade in order to "survive" (in her "mind") is “A Super Husband.”
Soon, she will take any action by her spouse (that is, any action which does not align with her belief system about what constitutes a super husband) as an actual threat to her very existence.
Consider the level of distortion when the belief comes that “I, the Super Wife, am personally under attack by this guy because he is not being Super Husband, which is a requirement for me to even exist. For me to survive, I shall either have to change him into what my image of a Super Husband looks like or I shall have to leave and go find another man who can truly be a Super Husband. I deserve so much better.”
So the chain of events typically moves from stranger to acquaintance to friend to good friend to lover to fiancé / fiancée to spouse to upgraded spouse to threatened spouse to one being attacked to ex-spouse to seeker of a different stranger that can become an acquaintance and a friend and a potential spouse with the possibility of eventually qualifying as a super spouse.
And the same happens with men except they usually do not leave. Once they become Super Husband and feel they do not have a Super Wife, they usually just use that arrogance-based belief as justification to go out and find "Super Lover on the Side" that can give them what they deserve but are not receiving.
And that is the way things unfold with the assumption of just one role / personality among hundreds, all of which initially provide pleasure and all of which eventually provide displeasure, moving from personality (ego) to upgrading a personal identity to being motivated by arrogance (egotism).
Few will ever realize the lies and resulting misery of personality assumption since few will ever hear that explanation and since even the few who might hear such pointers while trapped as they are in the belief that their false personas are real will usually react in what manner?
L.: When identified as a separate individual in the world, bound by mind, body, personality and the network of lies that keep this imaginary structure intact, even if the Advaitan teachings are discovered, they may seem inexplicable. The mind may be unable to grasp any intellectual meaning or understanding.
F.: What can happen, though, in those rare instances (a) if even a tiny fissure occurs in the heap of blockages and (b) if that allows enough light to shine through so that the inner resource—the inner guru—is afforded the opportunity see the distortions of personality and (c) if the pure consciousness is afforded even a slight glimpse that begins to bring about a differentiation in true and false?
L.: There is likely to be an instant recognition of Truth. Here, there was more than an instant recognition, but a deep sense of relief and relaxation, often accompanied by spontaneous tears. This was the relief of recognizing the warm, calm, safe water of True understanding – after years of enculturated nonsense.
F.: Many will ask, “That all sounds well and good, but how can it happen for me?”
L.: How to be free of these dense layers of conditioned beliefs and concepts? The Advaitan teachings invite You to de-accumulate and unlearn – in other words to see the beliefs and concepts as false and allow them to dissolve. Can You see that the object is to DISSOLVE the layers of cloud cover and replace them with NOTHING – no new clouds, no new ideas, no new concepts? Can you see that acquiring any new ideas will simply be creating another layer of cloud cover, replacing one set of concepts with another set of concepts?
F.: To that end, this pointer has been offered here in the past:
Everything that is said here is to be used to get rid of another false belief until all ideas and emotional intoxication and beliefs are gone and nothing remains but the unstated understanding. Only then can the constant churning and re-churning of the false beliefs of the corrupted "mind" finally cease.
Yet many allow the arguments of “the mind” and its assumed personas to continue to interfere with a seeing of the Truth that can being misery and suffering to an end, so attached are they to their roles: “Floyd, I have to be an employee to pay the bills” and “I have to be the husband. We have a family and a home and our routines that I enjoy.”
[The duality involved with that is that the same person can contact this site a month later and claim that he is ready to kill or die or both because “wife” is threatening to leave.]
So this pointer has been offered:
If you cling to the false identity of “husband,” you shall never find the True Self, so peace will never happen consistently. If you find the True Self, then “husbanding” or “not husbanding” can happen…and consistent peace will happen either way.
And employee-ing can happen and “father-ing” can happen or “mother-ing” can happen and all else can happen without buying into the false belief that such personalities / personas / false identities are real, that such mirages can be threatened, or that an image or illusion can provide true peace and stability. It cannot; it will not.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
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[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
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For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
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3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
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4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
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6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
