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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
This is the first joint posting and came about spontaneously. More may happen spontaneously…or not.
F.: Why are pointers toward being free of the influences of personality so often ignored when the unconscious motivator of personality results in lives that are marked and marred—relatively speaking—by fluctuations, disorganization, up’s and down’s, periods of supposed contentment (often imagined as a result of dissociation) and even chaos?
A man living a life not unlike a roller coaster ride was told last night: “Roller coaster rides might be fun for five minutes once a year at a carnival. Riding them every day for years, as you have done and are doing, should get old for anyone really awake to the effects.”
Yet most ignore pointers toward a no-personality state because they grow accustomed to putting a spin on everything, to living with a distorted view of reality, and to believing in the duality that “things are going well” at one moment but later claiming “this is a real crisis I’m facing now,” only to return to the mindset that "Okay, things are going well again now."
That is what being mentally and emotionally and "personally" unstable looks like, and it the abnormal norm of the planet now.
Additionally, in between those extremes are all sorts of imagined high’s and imagined low’s which are addressed with such nonsensical platitudes as, “That’s just the way life is, Floyd” or "We have to accept the fact that life is chaotic" or "I do what I can and then I turn it over to my higher power."
The reply to "That's just the way it is, Floyd": “For you, yes. For Me and for all that have Realized, no.” When living under the auspices of personality, when those nightmare events come, their impact will be all the more alarming because they are not the product of physical sleep.
They are the product of memory, and though persons are “in the dream” (of the planet), they are awake just enough to “experience” fully the misery of the nightmares when they come.
Soon, though, as each nightmare passes, they go back to walking and talking and behaving in their sleep—that is, driven blindly by personality while whitewashing their actual condition, putting a twist and a spin on what they do not choose to accept as fact and believing, “Now everything is okay again.” And to accept such instability and such distortion is genuine madness.
Maharaj addressed that insanity of humanity. He made clear on many occasions that humanity is trapped by personality, the result being that persons do not have a clue about why they think the way they think, why they say what they say, or why they do what they do, all along believing that they are the conscious determiners of all of those totally unconscious acts.
Maharaj was spot on. What could be more insane than that, than not knowing why you think and talk and behave as you do? What could be more insane than normalizing the abnormal in the way that personality always does?
What could be more insane than to be among the one species of the billions on the planet that prefers to live unnaturally and supernaturally (a.k.a., “religiously” or “spiritually”)? What could be more insane than not accepting the invitation to uncover the “Self-defeating” tendencies of the false selves…of the false personalities?
Louise: There are various methods to uncover the particular “flavouring” of these unconscious personality tendencies. Ask yourself: Are you free from the veil of personality? Have you uncovered the particular personality that drives you? Do understand the primary desires and fears that have prompted your actions, choices and behaviours since early childhood? Are you aware of the drivers that motivate the search?
F.: Of course almost all need to take those questions into serious consideration because almost all are totally unaware of what drives them. How does that impact finding Truth, uncovering the Full Understanding?
L.: For many seekers, the veil or sheath of personality feels entirely normal and natural – the motivators and drivers are unconscious and therefore unseen. In this way, the basic personality type fuels the search [F.: see the discussion yesterday of the effects of Maharaj’s Type Four Personality] but also obscures the full understanding.
F.: Lost in the dreams and desires (as well as the fears and the nightmares) of personality-induced instability, persons are forever living in the unsteady duality of “good” times and “bad” times, the effect being ever-present shiftings that lead to shakiness, unsteadiness, volatility, insecurity, and chaos.
In the periods of post-personality formation and in a state of personality maintenance, persons become so bored with their routines that the only time they “feel alive” (that is, feel anything) is when they experience the chaos that they stir up to interrupt the boring patterns of their existence.
Those same persons dismiss the Realized state as being “robotic,” finding one more way to cling to disorder and to reject stability. They normalize the abnormal fluctuations between “feeling connected” at times but feeling disconnected and disjointed at other times.
L.: The sheath of personality must be seen for what it is, and discarded so these flavourings or attributes do not create the illusion of separation from THAT which is without attributes, without flavourings, without additions of any type.
F.: Further, not only must all personality be discarded, but all belief in anything personal must go if one is to be in touch with reality / Reality and if one is to be free of the selfishness and self-centeredness that belief in “the personal” and in “individuality” generates.
Maharaj: This world is filled up with selfishness…. Once you know what these principles are, then you dissolve the personality and, in the process, that selfishness vanishes because you are no more an individual.
L.: When embarked on the search, the seeker may identify and discard the flavouring of a wide variety of other personas – more easily identified and dissolved: the helper, the rescuer, the compliant employee, etc. However, the persona of the seeker is one of the last to be eliminated. Eventually the seeker is seen as yet another persona – the selection of memories, thoughts, impressions, and preferences that create an apparent identity.
F.: Yet most never want to be rid of personality because they believe, as a result of the blocked consciousness, that their personality / personalities actually define who they are. Most, instead, are content to seek “growth, self-improvement, change that makes the self better," or some exercises that can "shift the person to some higher level."
Maharaj: Changes are brought about in the consciousness itself, not in the pseudo-personality.
F.: Specifically, the change involves less of a changing of the consciousness (unless one takes the stance that the consciousness has been warped and requires being restored to its originally pure form) and more of a removing of the obstacles that are blocking the consciousness—that are blocking the Pure Witness (actually, the Pure Witnessing) from seeing clearly and realistically and logically.
Furthermore, as noted yesterday, there is no personal God that can be called on to bring back the freedom of simplicity and sanity and logic that children are robbed of at an early age when those traits were replaced by personality and personality’s warped traits and motives.
To believe that you are a person is to set the stage for arrogantly upgrading that persona and believing you will be a Super or Supreme Person someday and believing now in some Supreme Person / Being, setting the stage for the manifestation of the disorder called "The God Complex Personality Disorder."
F.: That is, the profound awareness of the functioning of the totality supplants any prior beliefs in a personal God which were instilled as a result of faulty programming and lie-based conditioning.
Realized, not only will a belief in a personal God disappear but a belief in the personal self disappears as well, and vice-versa. If there is no personal self, then there is no creator of personal selves. (Understand that all is energy / matter and that neither matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed and the hoax of a creator ends.)
Maharaj: As long as identification is there, you will think of benefiting only this pseudo-personality; and
Maharaj: The knowledge that I am expounding will dissolve your identity as a personality; and
Maharaj: My personality, or individuality, is thrown to the winds; it is no more there.
F.: In the chaos of the daily going and doing and zooming, though, most persons still find plenty of times for themselves (for their “false selves” / personas) but have no time at all for the Self—to find What They Truly Are. So it is.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
A man living a life not unlike a roller coaster ride was told last night: “Roller coaster rides might be fun for five minutes once a year at a carnival. Riding them every day for years, as you have done and are doing, should get old for anyone really awake to the effects.”
Yet most ignore pointers toward a no-personality state because they grow accustomed to putting a spin on everything, to living with a distorted view of reality, and to believing in the duality that “things are going well” at one moment but later claiming “this is a real crisis I’m facing now,” only to return to the mindset that "Okay, things are going well again now."
That is what being mentally and emotionally and "personally" unstable looks like, and it the abnormal norm of the planet now.
Additionally, in between those extremes are all sorts of imagined high’s and imagined low’s which are addressed with such nonsensical platitudes as, “That’s just the way life is, Floyd” or "We have to accept the fact that life is chaotic" or "I do what I can and then I turn it over to my higher power."
The reply to "That's just the way it is, Floyd": “For you, yes. For Me and for all that have Realized, no.” When living under the auspices of personality, when those nightmare events come, their impact will be all the more alarming because they are not the product of physical sleep.
They are the product of memory, and though persons are “in the dream” (of the planet), they are awake just enough to “experience” fully the misery of the nightmares when they come.
Soon, though, as each nightmare passes, they go back to walking and talking and behaving in their sleep—that is, driven blindly by personality while whitewashing their actual condition, putting a twist and a spin on what they do not choose to accept as fact and believing, “Now everything is okay again.” And to accept such instability and such distortion is genuine madness.
Maharaj addressed that insanity of humanity. He made clear on many occasions that humanity is trapped by personality, the result being that persons do not have a clue about why they think the way they think, why they say what they say, or why they do what they do, all along believing that they are the conscious determiners of all of those totally unconscious acts.
Maharaj was spot on. What could be more insane than that, than not knowing why you think and talk and behave as you do? What could be more insane than normalizing the abnormal in the way that personality always does?
What could be more insane than to be among the one species of the billions on the planet that prefers to live unnaturally and supernaturally (a.k.a., “religiously” or “spiritually”)? What could be more insane than not accepting the invitation to uncover the “Self-defeating” tendencies of the false selves…of the false personalities?
Louise: There are various methods to uncover the particular “flavouring” of these unconscious personality tendencies. Ask yourself: Are you free from the veil of personality? Have you uncovered the particular personality that drives you? Do understand the primary desires and fears that have prompted your actions, choices and behaviours since early childhood? Are you aware of the drivers that motivate the search?
F.: Of course almost all need to take those questions into serious consideration because almost all are totally unaware of what drives them. How does that impact finding Truth, uncovering the Full Understanding?
L.: For many seekers, the veil or sheath of personality feels entirely normal and natural – the motivators and drivers are unconscious and therefore unseen. In this way, the basic personality type fuels the search [F.: see the discussion yesterday of the effects of Maharaj’s Type Four Personality] but also obscures the full understanding.
F.: Lost in the dreams and desires (as well as the fears and the nightmares) of personality-induced instability, persons are forever living in the unsteady duality of “good” times and “bad” times, the effect being ever-present shiftings that lead to shakiness, unsteadiness, volatility, insecurity, and chaos.
In the periods of post-personality formation and in a state of personality maintenance, persons become so bored with their routines that the only time they “feel alive” (that is, feel anything) is when they experience the chaos that they stir up to interrupt the boring patterns of their existence.
Those same persons dismiss the Realized state as being “robotic,” finding one more way to cling to disorder and to reject stability. They normalize the abnormal fluctuations between “feeling connected” at times but feeling disconnected and disjointed at other times.
L.: The sheath of personality must be seen for what it is, and discarded so these flavourings or attributes do not create the illusion of separation from THAT which is without attributes, without flavourings, without additions of any type.
F.: Further, not only must all personality be discarded, but all belief in anything personal must go if one is to be in touch with reality / Reality and if one is to be free of the selfishness and self-centeredness that belief in “the personal” and in “individuality” generates.
Maharaj: This world is filled up with selfishness…. Once you know what these principles are, then you dissolve the personality and, in the process, that selfishness vanishes because you are no more an individual.
L.: When embarked on the search, the seeker may identify and discard the flavouring of a wide variety of other personas – more easily identified and dissolved: the helper, the rescuer, the compliant employee, etc. However, the persona of the seeker is one of the last to be eliminated. Eventually the seeker is seen as yet another persona – the selection of memories, thoughts, impressions, and preferences that create an apparent identity.
F.: Yet most never want to be rid of personality because they believe, as a result of the blocked consciousness, that their personality / personalities actually define who they are. Most, instead, are content to seek “growth, self-improvement, change that makes the self better," or some exercises that can "shift the person to some higher level."
Maharaj: Changes are brought about in the consciousness itself, not in the pseudo-personality.
F.: Specifically, the change involves less of a changing of the consciousness (unless one takes the stance that the consciousness has been warped and requires being restored to its originally pure form) and more of a removing of the obstacles that are blocking the consciousness—that are blocking the Pure Witness (actually, the Pure Witnessing) from seeing clearly and realistically and logically.
Furthermore, as noted yesterday, there is no personal God that can be called on to bring back the freedom of simplicity and sanity and logic that children are robbed of at an early age when those traits were replaced by personality and personality’s warped traits and motives.
To believe that you are a person is to set the stage for arrogantly upgrading that persona and believing you will be a Super or Supreme Person someday and believing now in some Supreme Person / Being, setting the stage for the manifestation of the disorder called "The God Complex Personality Disorder."
Maharaj: When it is said that out of devotion somebody meets a God, it is not a personality (personal) God, but the devotee himself proliferates into the … profundity.
F.: That is, the profound awareness of the functioning of the totality supplants any prior beliefs in a personal God which were instilled as a result of faulty programming and lie-based conditioning.
Realized, not only will a belief in a personal God disappear but a belief in the personal self disappears as well, and vice-versa. If there is no personal self, then there is no creator of personal selves. (Understand that all is energy / matter and that neither matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed and the hoax of a creator ends.)
Maharaj: As long as identification is there, you will think of benefiting only this pseudo-personality; and
Maharaj: The knowledge that I am expounding will dissolve your identity as a personality; and
Maharaj: My personality, or individuality, is thrown to the winds; it is no more there.
F.: In the chaos of the daily going and doing and zooming, though, most persons still find plenty of times for themselves (for their “false selves” / personas) but have no time at all for the Self—to find What They Truly Are. So it is.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
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THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
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For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
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3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
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To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
