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FROM A SITE VISITOR: Thanx for the joint series -- right on. Speaking of stupid or insane, I have been hearing talk for years now (I’m in the U.S.) of people being “willing to die for their country.” Qualifies as insane doesn’t it?
F.: Later, the total distortion of the notion of dying will be addressed (along with the distortion of having been born) but for now, this:
In most cases—and to the degree that the natural inclination is to extend the manifestation—yes, the talk of being “willing to die” as used among the non-Realized does qualify as nonsense.
Exceptions do exist if it is understood that, when the term is used to offer certain pointers, the Realized know, in fact, that they cannot die (which will be explained in more detail tomorrow):
Maharaj was “willing to die” long before he took mahasamadhi.
Maharaj was “willing to die” at the end when the pain of cancer was excruciating.
After I Realized and became “willing to die,” only then did I become “willing to live, fully.” The Realized will know exactly what that means and will know that it has nothing to do with a physical death.
Also, there were people who were racked by pain 24-7, with no relief in sight, and they were willing to have Dr. Kevorkian arrange for a quiet and peaceful de-manifestation.
At retreats here, persons trapped in the fear of body identification and religious conditioning, a level of fear that has left them afraid of the prospect of eternal punishment, have been invited to “die now and get it over with.” Those with post-Realization wisdom know what that invitation really means.
So all of that having been said, for you to suggest in your e-mail that all of this “willingness to die”-talk among the non-Realized is insane is certainly valid, relatively speaking. Take for example:
“I am willing to die for my country.” The fact, is, they have no country. Borderlines are imaginary and fictional, reinforcing belief is separation, so the concept is dualistic and, therefore, false.
Moreover, what is a country? Is it land? Would those persons be willing to die for dirt? Or is a country all of its people? Are those speakers willing to die for all of the people who make up what they think "their country" is? Truth be known, there are probably far more people they hate than like, so there are probably far more people they would not be willing to die for, including…
…people of different political affiliations or different ideologies or a different religion or no religion or a different sexual orientation or a different race or any one of the many differences and biases that such radically-nationalistic thinkers as those in the "willing-to-die-for-my-country" group might believe in.
(Most of those persons in the "willing-to-die-for-my-country" group are Type Sixes, and such a comment is exactly the kind that comes from Type Sixes who are talking in their sleep, thinking they are choosing that belief system when in fact it has been programming into them.)
What about “I am willing to die for love”? If one knows the Oneness and knows that Real Love is knowing that You Are everything, then how could one die for that? Of course the way most use that statement is to refer to their personality, as discussed in the last series.
In that case, they are not willing to die for love. They are willing to die for the perpetuation of a false identity, such as the case when Lover must have Lover to “exist” and when Spouse must have Spouse to “exist.”
What they really mean then is, "I am willing to kill myself and / or anyone who interferes with my delusion, either by trying to leave or by trying to take away the one playing the co-dependent counterpart to my role and the one who is, therefore, allowing my illusion of 'love' to continue."
Then there is, “I am willing to die for my principles.”
In fact, no one has any principles. Principles are defined as “rules that are upgraded to the status of values.” The point to such persons lost in that delusion is that there is no set of “your” principles, “your” values, or even “your” mind.
The reference is really to “their” principles, “their” values, or “their” mind which the speaker has adopted without question and now assumes that those principles or values are “his / hers.” In fact, all three of those are rooted in any given culture’s teachings and programming and conditioning.
What the speaker in this case is saying in effect is that, “I have blindly accepted the rules and values of a group of persons who handed down to me the nonsense that was handed down to them, and in order to make them love me and respect me and value me, I am willing to die by fighting others who have different principles and values. What I am really willing to die for is my distorted programming and silly conditioning and bizarre acculturation and our desire to force our beliefs onto others."
Tomorrow—as pointed to in the last postings—this series will continue with a discussion of the assertion which produces more belief in “better-than-ness” and “separate from-ness” (and which generates more insanity and hated and murder than with any other source), namely, “I am willing to die for my God.”
F.: Later, the total distortion of the notion of dying will be addressed (along with the distortion of having been born) but for now, this:
In most cases—and to the degree that the natural inclination is to extend the manifestation—yes, the talk of being “willing to die” as used among the non-Realized does qualify as nonsense.
Exceptions do exist if it is understood that, when the term is used to offer certain pointers, the Realized know, in fact, that they cannot die (which will be explained in more detail tomorrow):
Maharaj was “willing to die” long before he took mahasamadhi.
Maharaj was “willing to die” at the end when the pain of cancer was excruciating.
After I Realized and became “willing to die,” only then did I become “willing to live, fully.” The Realized will know exactly what that means and will know that it has nothing to do with a physical death.
Also, there were people who were racked by pain 24-7, with no relief in sight, and they were willing to have Dr. Kevorkian arrange for a quiet and peaceful de-manifestation.
At retreats here, persons trapped in the fear of body identification and religious conditioning, a level of fear that has left them afraid of the prospect of eternal punishment, have been invited to “die now and get it over with.” Those with post-Realization wisdom know what that invitation really means.
So all of that having been said, for you to suggest in your e-mail that all of this “willingness to die”-talk among the non-Realized is insane is certainly valid, relatively speaking. Take for example:
“I am willing to die for my country.” The fact, is, they have no country. Borderlines are imaginary and fictional, reinforcing belief is separation, so the concept is dualistic and, therefore, false.
Moreover, what is a country? Is it land? Would those persons be willing to die for dirt? Or is a country all of its people? Are those speakers willing to die for all of the people who make up what they think "their country" is? Truth be known, there are probably far more people they hate than like, so there are probably far more people they would not be willing to die for, including…
…people of different political affiliations or different ideologies or a different religion or no religion or a different sexual orientation or a different race or any one of the many differences and biases that such radically-nationalistic thinkers as those in the "willing-to-die-for-my-country" group might believe in.
(Most of those persons in the "willing-to-die-for-my-country" group are Type Sixes, and such a comment is exactly the kind that comes from Type Sixes who are talking in their sleep, thinking they are choosing that belief system when in fact it has been programming into them.)
What about “I am willing to die for love”? If one knows the Oneness and knows that Real Love is knowing that You Are everything, then how could one die for that? Of course the way most use that statement is to refer to their personality, as discussed in the last series.
In that case, they are not willing to die for love. They are willing to die for the perpetuation of a false identity, such as the case when Lover must have Lover to “exist” and when Spouse must have Spouse to “exist.”
What they really mean then is, "I am willing to kill myself and / or anyone who interferes with my delusion, either by trying to leave or by trying to take away the one playing the co-dependent counterpart to my role and the one who is, therefore, allowing my illusion of 'love' to continue."
Then there is, “I am willing to die for my principles.”
In fact, no one has any principles. Principles are defined as “rules that are upgraded to the status of values.” The point to such persons lost in that delusion is that there is no set of “your” principles, “your” values, or even “your” mind.
The reference is really to “their” principles, “their” values, or “their” mind which the speaker has adopted without question and now assumes that those principles or values are “his / hers.” In fact, all three of those are rooted in any given culture’s teachings and programming and conditioning.
What the speaker in this case is saying in effect is that, “I have blindly accepted the rules and values of a group of persons who handed down to me the nonsense that was handed down to them, and in order to make them love me and respect me and value me, I am willing to die by fighting others who have different principles and values. What I am really willing to die for is my distorted programming and silly conditioning and bizarre acculturation and our desire to force our beliefs onto others."
Tomorrow—as pointed to in the last postings—this series will continue with a discussion of the assertion which produces more belief in “better-than-ness” and “separate from-ness” (and which generates more insanity and hated and murder than with any other source), namely, “I am willing to die for my God.”
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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LIBERATION
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FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
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CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
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FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
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SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
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4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
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