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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
From a site visitor: Does Louise teach the online classes?
F.: Yes. Details will be provided at the end of today's post.
From a seeker at a retreat (whose pre-retreat personality test revealed he is a Personality Type Two Helper / Rescuer): It seems to me that you are teaching people to be self-centred by saying that there is no one to be helped and no one who can help. I came here for help and I want to leave here and help others.
[The session was not being taped so the exact response is not available but the following is very close to the reply]:
First, the invitation here is to be Self-centred, that is, centred in the True Self as the later steps on the "path" are reached (rather than not being "centred" at all as a result of assuming so many false identities).
Next, there is no "one" to help or be helped; there is the Oneness, yes, but there is no "one" to do anything or to receive anything. (See yesterday's pointer: no "do-ers"....no "havers.")
If you have come here for help, then you have come with an unattainable agenda. Here, nothing is given; to the contrary, all is removed if the Understanding comes. Next, what is more self-ish, more centred in a false self, than the belief that you can help people, indicating your belief that you think you know exactly what everyone needs and that you can give them whatever that is.
These teachings are about de-accumulation; about realizing that there is actually no "teacher" because there is nothing to teach; about understanding that many seekers require professional treatment for physiological and mental and emotional problems which are so severe that they can never be addressed by any philosophy; and that here there is nothing to give and no "one" to receive.
You want to rescue, save, help, and improve. But why? Because you are so caring and loving? No. Those thoughts and words and actions come (a) because you are being driven by the desire of your primary personality type; (b) because the egotism that is generated by assuming the ego-state of "The Helper" persona has convinced you that you can single-handedly "fix" everyone;
(c) because you want to be loved by all, and believe that all will love you if you help them; (d) because of the fear of your primary personality type that you will never receive all of the love you now desire; and (e) because persons with that personality type are trying to make up for having received less love during childhood than the amount they wanted.
So here the talk is of You, the Real You, while you want to focus on the agenda and desires and fears of the "not-You personality type two."
When Maharaj's teachings regarding this very subject were called into question, the exchange unfolded thusly:
Questioner: To be content with mere being seems to be a most selfish way of passing time.
[F.: That comment almost always comes from one assuming the Type Three Personality that thinks it must go and do and zoom and perform and achieve and accomplish to exist; from one assuming the Type Two Personality of the Rescuer / Savior / Helper; or from one assuming the Type Eight Personality that thinks it has the right to control and manage and "shape others." It also often comes from one that has been programmed and conditioned to think and talk and behave in the Western fashion, always accumulating. In the case of the speaker above, the Type Two seems to be at the root of the thinking and talking.]
Maharaj replied: A most worthy way of being selfish! By all means be selfish by foregoing everything but the Self. When you love the Self and nothing else, you go beyond the selfish and the unselfish. All distinctions lose their meaning. Love of one and Love of all merge together in Love...pure and simple...addressed to none...denied to none.
From another seeker visiting here for a retreat: It seems Realization will make me robotic and lock me into a boring life.
The response: What is more boring that kneeling and standing and kneeling and standing, chanting chants and praying prayers or citing creeds or slogans in a zombie-like fashion and in unison with other persons? Can anything be more robotic than that?
You have been told that Realization need not prevent "husbanding" from happening; it will merely allow husbanding to happen without a belief in the false role of "The Husband"; without experiencing the imaginary fears and unmet desires of "The Husband"; and without the arrogance and egotism that manifest when "The Husband" upgrades itself to the level of "Super Husband."
Maharaj addressed the issue thusly:
Questioner: Does it mean that I must give up all idea of an active life?
Maharaj: "Not at all. There will be marriage, there will be children, there will be earning money to maintain a family; all this will happen in the natural course of events....
"You will go through it without resistance, facing tasks as they come, attentive and thorough..., but the general attitude will be of affectionate detachment, enormous goodwill....
"In marriage you are neither the husband nor the wife; you are The Love between the two. You are the clarity and kindness that makes everything orderly and happy.
"Your consciousness is raised to a higher dimension, from which You see everything much clearer and with greater intensity. You realise that the person you became at birth and will cease to be at death is temporary and false.
"You are not the sensual, emotional and intellectual person, gripped by desires and fears. Find out Your real being. 'What am l?' is the fundamental question of all philosophy and psychology. Go into it deeply."
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
[The session was not being taped so the exact response is not available but the following is very close to the reply]:
First, the invitation here is to be Self-centred, that is, centred in the True Self as the later steps on the "path" are reached (rather than not being "centred" at all as a result of assuming so many false identities).
Next, there is no "one" to help or be helped; there is the Oneness, yes, but there is no "one" to do anything or to receive anything. (See yesterday's pointer: no "do-ers"....no "havers.")
If you have come here for help, then you have come with an unattainable agenda. Here, nothing is given; to the contrary, all is removed if the Understanding comes. Next, what is more self-ish, more centred in a false self, than the belief that you can help people, indicating your belief that you think you know exactly what everyone needs and that you can give them whatever that is.
These teachings are about de-accumulation; about realizing that there is actually no "teacher" because there is nothing to teach; about understanding that many seekers require professional treatment for physiological and mental and emotional problems which are so severe that they can never be addressed by any philosophy; and that here there is nothing to give and no "one" to receive.
You want to rescue, save, help, and improve. But why? Because you are so caring and loving? No. Those thoughts and words and actions come (a) because you are being driven by the desire of your primary personality type; (b) because the egotism that is generated by assuming the ego-state of "The Helper" persona has convinced you that you can single-handedly "fix" everyone;
(c) because you want to be loved by all, and believe that all will love you if you help them; (d) because of the fear of your primary personality type that you will never receive all of the love you now desire; and (e) because persons with that personality type are trying to make up for having received less love during childhood than the amount they wanted.
So here the talk is of You, the Real You, while you want to focus on the agenda and desires and fears of the "not-You personality type two."
When Maharaj's teachings regarding this very subject were called into question, the exchange unfolded thusly:
Questioner: To be content with mere being seems to be a most selfish way of passing time.
[F.: That comment almost always comes from one assuming the Type Three Personality that thinks it must go and do and zoom and perform and achieve and accomplish to exist; from one assuming the Type Two Personality of the Rescuer / Savior / Helper; or from one assuming the Type Eight Personality that thinks it has the right to control and manage and "shape others." It also often comes from one that has been programmed and conditioned to think and talk and behave in the Western fashion, always accumulating. In the case of the speaker above, the Type Two seems to be at the root of the thinking and talking.]
Maharaj replied: A most worthy way of being selfish! By all means be selfish by foregoing everything but the Self. When you love the Self and nothing else, you go beyond the selfish and the unselfish. All distinctions lose their meaning. Love of one and Love of all merge together in Love...pure and simple...addressed to none...denied to none.
From another seeker visiting here for a retreat: It seems Realization will make me robotic and lock me into a boring life.
The response: What is more boring that kneeling and standing and kneeling and standing, chanting chants and praying prayers or citing creeds or slogans in a zombie-like fashion and in unison with other persons? Can anything be more robotic than that?
You have been told that Realization need not prevent "husbanding" from happening; it will merely allow husbanding to happen without a belief in the false role of "The Husband"; without experiencing the imaginary fears and unmet desires of "The Husband"; and without the arrogance and egotism that manifest when "The Husband" upgrades itself to the level of "Super Husband."
Maharaj addressed the issue thusly:
Questioner: Does it mean that I must give up all idea of an active life?
Maharaj: "Not at all. There will be marriage, there will be children, there will be earning money to maintain a family; all this will happen in the natural course of events....
"You will go through it without resistance, facing tasks as they come, attentive and thorough..., but the general attitude will be of affectionate detachment, enormous goodwill....
"In marriage you are neither the husband nor the wife; you are The Love between the two. You are the clarity and kindness that makes everything orderly and happy.
"Your consciousness is raised to a higher dimension, from which You see everything much clearer and with greater intensity. You realise that the person you became at birth and will cease to be at death is temporary and false.
"You are not the sensual, emotional and intellectual person, gripped by desires and fears. Find out Your real being. 'What am l?' is the fundamental question of all philosophy and psychology. Go into it deeply."
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
Much of what Louise has shared has resonated with many site visitors. to that end, some have inquired recently if Louise offers the online Advaita Internet Course. The answer is, "Yes."
Whether taking the course with Louise or Floyd, the price of the course includes all 11 of the Advaita eBooks, questions sent after completion of the assigned readings, replies to your answers, and follow-up as required.
With either teacher, you will be guided through all seven of the steps, in order, that lead from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond). For more specific information and details about the course, you may click on the link to the right.
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Whether taking the course with Louise or Floyd, the price of the course includes all 11 of the Advaita eBooks, questions sent after completion of the assigned readings, replies to your answers, and follow-up as required.
With either teacher, you will be guided through all seven of the steps, in order, that lead from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond). For more specific information and details about the course, you may click on the link to the right.
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[THE YOUTUBE ADVAITA VEDANTA VIDEOS ARE AVAILABLE IN LARGER FORMATS BELOW WHICH MIGHT PROVIDE MORE COMFORTABLE VIEWING FOR SOME SITE VISITORS]
Now you can receive for $40 a downloadable computer file version of the same 7-hour satsang that seekers receive when they visit for the Advaita Retreat with Floyd. You will be guided through the seven steps from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond).
For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.)
You may visit The Official Website of Floyd Henderson for information on each book.
TRANSLATED ADVAITA EBOOKS AVAILABLE
Beginning today, the 11 Advaita eBooks listed at the end of this post are available in twenty-two non-English languages. If you are interested in purchasing an eBook in another language, click Contact Floyd to see if the language you prefer is available. Again, the quality of the translation cannot be guaranteed but it might make some pointers available to seekers that might not otherwise receive them. If you want to send a translated eBook to someone as a gift, that can also be arranged via the contact link above.
(Charges will include the regular price of the eBook + a US$10.00 translating fee.)
TO PAY FOR A TRANSLATION - US$10.00 - CLICK THE BUY BUTTON BELOW
(Contact Floyd before paying to be certain the language you prefer is available)
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
TRANSLATED ADVAITA EBOOKS AVAILABLE
Beginning today, the 11 Advaita eBooks listed at the end of this post are available in twenty-two non-English languages. If you are interested in purchasing an eBook in another language, click Contact Floyd to see if the language you prefer is available. Again, the quality of the translation cannot be guaranteed but it might make some pointers available to seekers that might not otherwise receive them. If you want to send a translated eBook to someone as a gift, that can also be arranged via the contact link above.
(Charges will include the regular price of the eBook + a US$10.00 translating fee.)
TO PAY FOR A TRANSLATION - US$10.00 - CLICK THE BUY BUTTON BELOW
(Contact Floyd before paying to be certain the language you prefer is available)
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally:
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
YOUTUBE ADVAITA VEDANTA YOGA VIDEOS
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Please enter the silence of contemplation.
