Thursday, June 18, 2020

MIND ISSUES RATHER THAN DOGMA ISSUES AND SO-CALLED SPIRIT or SPIRITUAL ISSUES

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MIND ISSUES RATHER THAN DOGMA ISSUES AND SO-CALLED SPIRIT or SPIRITUAL ISSUES

The Purging of All Sense of WHO-NESS 

During the years when Maharaj began to abandon the obligations he had been feeling because of his entrapment in guru-bhakti, and as he began to shift away from bhakti – all the while longing to focus on the Nisarga Yoga alone – he experienced tremendous pushback and blowback from the religious persons in his community and, eventually, around the globe. 

As his sharings moved more toward jnani-yoga and towards sharings which attracted more Westerners who were looking for an understanding via “Eastern teachings,” the pushback and blowback from religious persons increased. 

Then, when he determined that the spirituality-based sharings which he was offering

(and which were being offered to appeal to and even cater to the Westerners who were showing up in the loft above his flat)

were also failing to bring about any true understanding, he began advising seekers to give up spirituality, too. 

He also set forth his declaration of independence from the earlier attachment to Self-Inquiry and advised seekers that "it is enough to know who you are not” (which merely requires "self-inquiry" and via the taking of a personal / persona inventory). More blowback and pushback followed. 

To be willing to study the evidence and the facts, and to then be willing to admit that what one had been teaching was totally misguided, can only happen in the absence of ego identification and egotism. Maharaj did it, though, and stood firm against the continuing blowback and pushback. 

Same here. 

And be assured that at each point when the old was set aside and the new was tried as a possibly-effective version of the Ultimate Medicine, there was not just resistance from seekers and observers. There was also some internal resistance experienced:

“The old is not working. Something different must be tried. Do you have the wherewithal to persevere in offering something different in face of the continuing – as well as the pending – blowback and pushback?" 

Then the questions were asked of “self” (actually, of "selves”) which are now also asked of those clinging to old beliefs which had already been seen to be bogus. 

The questions were asked in terms of the “WHO’s,” that is, "Who – which ego-state” is involved, is trying to influence, is fighting for its perceived but totally counterfeit and phony beingness? The questions asked of self, which visitors are now invited to ask of themselves include these: 

1. WHO finds the pointers here objectionable? 

2. WHO finds the suggestion of living naturally - rather than unnaturally or supernaturally - objectionable? 

3. WHO objects to Maharaj’s assertion that it is not really a requirement to know the Supreme Self? 

4. WHO objects to his declaration that he gave up all interest in the Supreme Self? 

5. WHO objects to his declaration that it is enough to know only who you are not? 

6. WHO that is sane can find even a single legitimate objection to abiding naturally? 

7. WHO that is sane would question the invitation to stop all the nonsense and just abide unnaturally? 

and 

8. WHO that is sane would question the invitation to stop trying to abide supernaturally and / or religiously and / or spiritually and / or as a Supreme Self and to simply abide naturally instead? 

The answers in each case were, “No one who is sane." Yes, some in what has been “The Land of Thousands of Mirages” for over 5000 years have been exposed to a non-dual message and have been willing to give up their belief in the existence of thousands of gods and goddesses. 

Yet then, they turn right around and accept the notion that . . . “They are God!” or “They are the Supreme!” Could that be taken legitimately as a shift toward clear seeing or logic or reason?

Could that state of mind possibly be confused with the condition of having truly been restored to sanity and of truly being free of the insane effects of programming and conditioning and domestication and acculturation and indoctrination and brainwashing? 

WHO could possibly object if they look objectively at the reasons why Maharaj . . . 

abandoned the use of a religious / non-dual version of the Ultimate Medicine; 

abandoned the use of a spiritual / non-dual version of the Ultimate Medicine; 

stopped recommending that years been spent on the task of “finding Self”; 

and 

then recommended merely abiding naturally, just like every other living thing on the planet except for humans? 

No other living thing on the planet has any sense of “WHO-ness”; on the other hand, humans have very little sense at all except for their sense of WHO-ness. 

Maharaj made clear that persons were not created by god but that god was dreamed up by persons. They made it up. They came up with their own conception which is just that - a mere conception. To "turn one’s life and will over" to the care of an accumulation of mind conceptualizations and personality identifications (while thinking that one is turning her or his will and care over to some dreamed up power or Power beyond) is about as far out-of-touch with the reality of the AM-ness as possible. 

As far as "the Reality of the THAT-ness," post-manifestation there will be no “one” to know either “Reality” or “THAT.” As Maharaj explained, “If you were never born once, you most assuredly cannot be born again.” 

Post-manifestation, the elements shall merge with the universal pool of elements; the air shall merge with the universal pool of air; and the conscious-energy shall merge with the universal pool of awareness-energy which can be aware of nothing if not manifested. 

payoff for playing the “good” roles (or even “The Great Role”) which they are playing; to see when one is being driven through life by a belief in mirages; and to get real . . . now. Then, kick back and take it easy, like all every other no-mind, no-identity living thing on the planet except for humans.

To be continued.


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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION


If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you." 

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:


"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II 

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium. 


[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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