From Andrea, Canada, Part Four
[Continued from 25 August 2005. Site visitors yesterday saw a realization happen when Andrea applied the “Who” test. Here’s how that unfolded]:
[Continued from 25 August 2005. Site visitors yesterday saw a realization happen when Andrea applied the “Who” test. Here’s how that unfolded]:
F.: [Andrea had mentioned that she was playing ‘a lot with vedic astrology and have yagyas (large pujas) performed for me...incredible experiences with both, and i know that i am just playing...having fun, opening more to the awakening. Let’s move to some pointers. Of course, only persons have experiences. Pure consciousness is energy, and energy cannot experience, so the reponse was]: “Andrea, when we try to blend anything that is thought to be material with anything else that is thought to be spiritual, duality results and impure consciousness goes into accelerated movement. Peace ends. I always ask, ‘Is this an example of AS IF living,’ or is there some persona trying to gain something? What's to gain? I enjoy sitting in my boat on the lake, riding through the nearby national forest on my motorcycle, watching the flora and fauna off my balcony, etc. The question would be, ‘Am I trying to gain anything? Am I having to do something to get peace? There's nothing that can ever be done to get peace. Here's an entry from the site which offers a pointer that applies to your case:
‘Is it possible that personal power sources were dreamed up and tales of them are now passed on as a result of human desires and human fears and human resistance to the fact that man can do nothing, and need do nothing, to become free of the bondage of misery-causing fear and frustration-causing desires that result from accepting the body-mind-personality as self?’
Only realization need come. Regarding these activities you name, I'd ask, 'Am I trying to escape something or create a state of peace?' WHO is trying to escape? WHO is trying to gain? Andrea the _____ (fill in the blank if an identity applies. If not, cool.) For me, those activities I named just happen. I'm not really doing anything. That might be a difference with your case...or might not. For me, as those are happening, there's no movement in consciousness, no gain, nothing sought...all is just happening. So I suppose the question would be, 'How would you characterize these activities of yours: is there gain being sought? WHO would gain? Are you doing something to get something, to escape something, to create something?' That would be the test I would use to find the truth and to uncover 'motive.' WHO has a motive? Maybe one exists, maybe not. Best regards, floyd"
So how did a realization happen for Andrea after that exxchange? She actually applied the suggestion. The resulting realization we saw yesterday:
Only realization need come. Regarding these activities you name, I'd ask, 'Am I trying to escape something or create a state of peace?' WHO is trying to escape? WHO is trying to gain? Andrea the _____ (fill in the blank if an identity applies. If not, cool.) For me, those activities I named just happen. I'm not really doing anything. That might be a difference with your case...or might not. For me, as those are happening, there's no movement in consciousness, no gain, nothing sought...all is just happening. So I suppose the question would be, 'How would you characterize these activities of yours: is there gain being sought? WHO would gain? Are you doing something to get something, to escape something, to create something?' That would be the test I would use to find the truth and to uncover 'motive.' WHO has a motive? Maybe one exists, maybe not. Best regards, floyd"
So how did a realization happen for Andrea after that exxchange? She actually applied the suggestion. The resulting realization we saw yesterday:
Andrea: “Wow...it is true. When i ask WHO would gain from these yagyas...i just go into this calm place as if there is nothing and nobody to gain anything. It feels like the 'person' who wanted the yagyas did so out of a place of fear and wanting clarity in life.”
F.: [To all site visitors] If you complete all seven of the steps to reality as outlined, then AS IF living will happen automatically. Many attempt to force themselves into the silence. After realization, the silence just happens. Until realization, the silence simply facilitates the ability to contemplate and focus on pointers offered that can lead to realization. More will be offered soon on "meditation." Is the goal to enter a super-consciousness state, or is the goal to set aside quiet time for considering pointers offered? Please enter the silence of contemplation. [To be continued 27 August 2005]
