From a site visitor: [Received 10 June 2007] Today you said history shows religion leads to separation and judging and even killing. That’s not true. For me, my religion leads to peace and power. I stay in conscious contact with Him with prayer all day, every day, and He empowers me and gives me guidance and peace so I can be happy for as long as by His grace I am allowed to live. I hope you can find your way to Him so that you can have peace in this life and joy forever. Signed, John (as in 3:16)--A Child and Agent of God
F.: Before Ivan Pavlov conditioned the dogs in his experiment, they behaved naturally. They salivated at the smell of meat. After he conditioned them, they behaved unnaturally, salivating at the sound of a bell. Conditioning robbed them of the chance to live naturally and trapped them into living in a most unnatural manner. The same applies to conditioned humans: they will live unnaturally and supernaturtally but never naturally unless they are de-programmed and de-conditioned and then Realize Fully.
For thousands of years and continuing to the present, humans have been conditioned as if they were dogs in a Pavlovian experiment, and the most widespread conditioning (with the most far-reaching effects on the relative existence) involves religion and spirituality. Today, they both use the tried and proven methods of conditioning that are rooted in ancient cults and that are now used by modern cults that are considered to be legitimate organizations and religions and programs and movements.
F.: Before Ivan Pavlov conditioned the dogs in his experiment, they behaved naturally. They salivated at the smell of meat. After he conditioned them, they behaved unnaturally, salivating at the sound of a bell. Conditioning robbed them of the chance to live naturally and trapped them into living in a most unnatural manner. The same applies to conditioned humans: they will live unnaturally and supernaturtally but never naturally unless they are de-programmed and de-conditioned and then Realize Fully.
For thousands of years and continuing to the present, humans have been conditioned as if they were dogs in a Pavlovian experiment, and the most widespread conditioning (with the most far-reaching effects on the relative existence) involves religion and spirituality. Today, they both use the tried and proven methods of conditioning that are rooted in ancient cults and that are now used by modern cults that are considered to be legitimate organizations and religions and programs and movements.
While religion and/or spirituality are one step on the “path” to Realization, neither can move a person even to the midpoint of the complete “journey” to Full Realization. Moreover, like Pavlov’s dogs, humans subjected to religious and/or spiritual conditioning are prevented from living naturally and are trapped into living in a most unnatural manner.
It has been shown that the Advaita Teachings provide a means by which you can be free of all of the unconscious factors that currently control you and that actually disempower you (relatively speaking) by robbing you of free-will and choice, even as you think that your beliefs and practices are giving you “power.” It truly is possible to wake up and to stop living on autopilot when the autopilot setting does not allow you to have any input into where you’ll go, what you’ll do, and how the trip shall take place along the way.
So, John, you have written to this site to promote with pride some teachings that are thousands of years old, but the Realized Advaitins here speak of That Which Is eternal. You think that you have been born again while the consciousness that speaks here was never born but was present for the formation of this universe and all universes. You believe that something so limited as your religious persona could impress That Which Is without limit.
It has been shown that the Advaita Teachings provide a means by which you can be free of all of the unconscious factors that currently control you and that actually disempower you (relatively speaking) by robbing you of free-will and choice, even as you think that your beliefs and practices are giving you “power.” It truly is possible to wake up and to stop living on autopilot when the autopilot setting does not allow you to have any input into where you’ll go, what you’ll do, and how the trip shall take place along the way.
So, John, you have written to this site to promote with pride some teachings that are thousands of years old, but the Realized Advaitins here speak of That Which Is eternal. You think that you have been born again while the consciousness that speaks here was never born but was present for the formation of this universe and all universes. You believe that something so limited as your religious persona could impress That Which Is without limit.
You are inviting That Which Is totally free to become totally dependent, as you are. You believe that That Which Is—and Which Is permanent and unchangeable—can be altered by your relative urgings. You are looking without for That Which can only be accessed from within. You want the re-purified consciousness that is aware of the non-dual Truth of the Eternal Self to recognize the dualistic fiction of “the way to your God”—a concept that was only invented a few thousand years ago. You would urge a mirage to find the way to another mirage.
You want to talk of relative, fictional “power” on a site where Realized Advaitins know that They Are the pure and real energy that is the Absolute. You want persons to join you as you continue to work at becoming something, but you offer your invitation on a site where becoming has no applicability because the re-purified consciousness knows that It Was, Is, and shall Forever Be. You can become nothing, but you can appear to become the religious/spiritual role that you are playing.
You want to invite That Which Is at perfect peace and Which Is completely free to follow your path to peace and freedom, yet your path has been shown, historically, to destroy the peace and to encourage dependence. Moreover, if you have truly found “the way,” what were you looking for when you found this site? More ways? More answers? More prospects? What?
Once more, the pointer is offered: the Advaita Teachings provide a method by which you can understand how you have been unconsciously driven by misinformation and by deceptions that were dreamed up thousands of years ago. It provides a means by which you can be awakened, by which you can be enlightened, and by which you can be freed from the effects of all things that currently influence you and that unconsciously drive you.
During the Vedic Period, there was a formalization of the Vedānta philosophy (see Uttara Mimamsa for more) that offered an invitation to engage in “the higher inquiry.” That investigation can also include an inquiry into the Original Understanding of advaita, of “not two.” You speak of separates, John. You speak of a “you” that is “here” and a “god” that is “there.” You talk of things that deal with only the third step of the seven steps to De-Programming, De-Personalization, Full Realization, Full Awakening, Total Actualization, Full Enlightenment. Consider the “higher inquiry” until Realization happens, until all inquiry ends, and until AS IF, natural living happens.
What might that “higher inquiry” reveal that is far beyond your current persona? If you seek truth and seek that which is real, then you most certainly must inquire beyond a false persona such as “The Religious One” or “The Spiritual Man.” The truth cannot be found via a lie, and all of the roles that you are playing are nothing more than lies…just false identities.
The factual pointer is this: if you do not free yourself from dogmatic beliefs and from every other concept and belief and idea and ego-state, then you will know no freedom and you never sustain any consistent sense of peace during the remainder of the manifestation. Your religion will continue to be available should you refuse to question what you have been told and should you be driven to continue to remain among the dependent and co-dependent persons who are not Realized.
You want to talk of relative, fictional “power” on a site where Realized Advaitins know that They Are the pure and real energy that is the Absolute. You want persons to join you as you continue to work at becoming something, but you offer your invitation on a site where becoming has no applicability because the re-purified consciousness knows that It Was, Is, and shall Forever Be. You can become nothing, but you can appear to become the religious/spiritual role that you are playing.
You want to invite That Which Is at perfect peace and Which Is completely free to follow your path to peace and freedom, yet your path has been shown, historically, to destroy the peace and to encourage dependence. Moreover, if you have truly found “the way,” what were you looking for when you found this site? More ways? More answers? More prospects? What?
Once more, the pointer is offered: the Advaita Teachings provide a method by which you can understand how you have been unconsciously driven by misinformation and by deceptions that were dreamed up thousands of years ago. It provides a means by which you can be awakened, by which you can be enlightened, and by which you can be freed from the effects of all things that currently influence you and that unconsciously drive you.
During the Vedic Period, there was a formalization of the Vedānta philosophy (see Uttara Mimamsa for more) that offered an invitation to engage in “the higher inquiry.” That investigation can also include an inquiry into the Original Understanding of advaita, of “not two.” You speak of separates, John. You speak of a “you” that is “here” and a “god” that is “there.” You talk of things that deal with only the third step of the seven steps to De-Programming, De-Personalization, Full Realization, Full Awakening, Total Actualization, Full Enlightenment. Consider the “higher inquiry” until Realization happens, until all inquiry ends, and until AS IF, natural living happens.
What might that “higher inquiry” reveal that is far beyond your current persona? If you seek truth and seek that which is real, then you most certainly must inquire beyond a false persona such as “The Religious One” or “The Spiritual Man.” The truth cannot be found via a lie, and all of the roles that you are playing are nothing more than lies…just false identities.
The factual pointer is this: if you do not free yourself from dogmatic beliefs and from every other concept and belief and idea and ego-state, then you will know no freedom and you never sustain any consistent sense of peace during the remainder of the manifestation. Your religion will continue to be available should you refuse to question what you have been told and should you be driven to continue to remain among the dependent and co-dependent persons who are not Realized.
Realization, however, is also available if you become willing to question and to follow directions from a Realized teacher. The indisputable effectiveness of the methods of conditioning used by religious persons, however, will likely drive you to remain attached to the ancient, pagan lies that you take to be your current religious truths. So it is. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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