[Continued from yesterday as responses to questions from site visitor Raja are offered]
R.: I can go kill(body+mind) anybody whom i dislike and say I am not the Doer and Doeth and anyways i return to Brahman. True?
F.: False. You would have had to have been “with Brahman” in order to “return to Brahman.” Since you are speaking of Brahman only from a body-mind mode, it must be said that you were never “with Brahman.” Were you to speak from an energy/consciousness mode, and were you to understand that Brahman is not an “entity,” then a response involving “Brahman” could be offered.
The problem in your case is the misuse of the term “Brahman.” As with all persons discussing Brahman, it is taken to be some specific “thing” in your “mind.” (You used the term “entity” to refer to the concept in your first question.)
But if the seeker is to reach the no-concept state, then at some point the effects of programming and conditioning that inspire referring to an energy field with exalted terms such as “Brahman” (or mislabeling that field with such words as “god” or “heaven”) must end.
Is the potential energy at a wall outlet "noble," or is it just energy? Was it “with someone” or “with some entity” before arriving at your wall outlet?
As with most persons exposed to religious teachings, the non-personal, no attribute space is once again distorted into something personal and something that supposedly “has attributes.” The result of the practice is that, while no god created any man in "his own image," men have most certainly created many gods/goddesses in their image.
Such is the result of fallacies in reasoning, and reasoning fallacies result from programming, conditioning, domestication, and enculturation.
As for killing people without consequence, all acts in the relative existence generate relative consequences, which is why it can be reported that "the cause of all is all." Relatively speaking, therefore, the consequences of an action never cease. Absolutely speaking, there is no one to experience any action or to do any action.
As for “killing (body+mind),” in the case of the re-purified consciousness, the act of killing someone because you dislike them cannot happen since “you-them” is duality and since there is no do-er to go about doing disliking.
If you were familiar with the happenings in the relative existence of “floyd,” you would conclude, “Well surely you must dislike 'person A' who embezzled $25,000 from your company. And how could you not dislike 'person B' who was under the influence of alcohol and drove her car into you and caused your permanent neck injury?
"And of course you must dislike 'person C' who once took every penny out of your joint accounts and is now spending money, money which you earned, with another man.” Yet there is no disliking going on. There is witnessing that happens if someone raises the topic of “A” or “B” or “C, ” and what is witnessed are three very distorted and bastardized and warped specks of consciousness.
R.: Why should I bother about Karma yoga,Jnana yoga all these renunciations, non attachments, no -selfishness and all the scrap, if I were sure to return to Brahman.
F.: Though hypothetical, your question demonstrates the "mindset" that is common among non-Realized persons: “It’s all about me and never about others.” No such thought could arise via a re-purified speck of consciousness since the body-cum-consciousness is not handicapped with a “mind” that generates thoughts, since there is no “me,” and since there is no separation involving “me” and “others.”
Further, understand the pointer offered earlier: upon the occasion that persons call “death,” nothing more happens other than elements moving to the universal pool of elements, other than breath moving to the universal pool of air, and other than energy moving to the universal pool of energy. If you want to call that pool “Brahman,” do so without assigning personal attributes to the label.
Next, there is no “I” that will return anywhere. The Absolute is beyond both beingness and non-beingness…beyond self and Self and Self-ness.
As for “why bother with ‘yoga’?” no Absolute justification exists, only relative reasons. The relative-only reasons are:
(1) to allow the remainder of the manifestation to happen without relative suffering and relative misery, and
(2) to allow the relative existence to happen without the dualistic instability of being both happy and unhappy or both orderly and chaotic as a result of believing that the lies you’ve been told are true, and
(3) to stop being fooled, an act that also has no Absolute relevance to the Realized but that can generate relative suffering and misery among the non-Realized.
More simply, as mentioned yesterday, most seekers are seeking a relative existence that is “without bother.” The understanding of the Advaita Teachings provides one means to that end, but only relatively speaking. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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http://floydhenderson.com/nothingness.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/consiousnessawareness.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/iamabsolute.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/theessence.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/whenidie.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/liberation.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/peaceofmind.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/spiritualsobriety.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/bullshit.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twicestolen1.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twicestolen2.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/spiritjourney.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twelvestep.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/castinglight.htm
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