[Continued from yesterday]
R.: I was ok before introduced to Advaita, now after conceptual readings of these topics, my mind is thinking of these and am afraid I am trapped in Whirlwind of thoughts.
F.: If you were ok “before Advaita,” return to that pre-Advaita state, but were you not seeking and searching for something if you found Advaita…if you found this site? If you were completely ok with the beliefs you held—religious or otherwise—why were you seeking anything else?
R.: Where were I before Birth (if I were Born)? and where will I be after death(If I die)?
F.: As mentioned earlier,
R.: Is it like we are in undisturbed deep sleep before we came into this world. Then first of all why we should we born
F.: Again, review “friction” and “parental pleasures” in a prior post to find why a plant-food-body now called "Raja" was conceived and delivered. Those who do not know how babies are made, and who want to assign some supernatural connotation to the event, will never realize the Truth. Why?
Because they have been programmed to believe nonsensical concepts regarding “making babies” and “birth.” Most humans on the planet do not know how babies are made, and most could use a lesson in biology before being offered a lesson in Advaita.
As is, they are obviously trapped in magical (supernatural) thinking that is the result of programming and conditioning and which drives them to assign magical, supernatural aspects to completely natural processes.
As for “you” in a “deep sleep,” there was no “you” prior to the manifestation of this current speck of consciousness now called “Raja.”
R.: Is there any thing to acheive here?
F.: No, yet if “achieving” happens, it happens. Certainly, relative speaking, something must happen if humans are to have food and clothing and shelter, but it can merely happen without assuming any role of doership.
Several companies in 2007 contracted with “floyd” to serve as a business consultant, sharing Advaita-based teachings with their staff and/or clients. Just because consulting happened does not mean that the activity made Me “a consultant.” Consulting simply happened, without attachment to outcome and without any sense of doership.
Similarly, “achieving” can merely happen. Egotism manifests only if there is a belief that there is some “one” who achieved something (and therefore deserves love or praise for doing so).
R.: If so, then according to Advaita, we should only remain witness to our acts and should not invlove, coz our eternal soul(Atman) has nothing to achieve in this material world.
F.: There is no eternal soul. As for “witnessing without involvement,” certainly so. Farther along the path you will understand that there are two levels of witnessing, one “object witnessing”…the other “Pure Witnessing.”
You will not be ready for an explanation regarding those two until you are rid of these three: body identification, mind identification, and personality identification. Any talk of “just being the witness” is delusion as long as one or more of those three identities is taken to be real.
R.: Then what is all these. Who woke me up in deep sleep and gave me birth. If so then why should we bother how we live in this transient world.
F.: There was no “you” that was asleep and there was no “you” that was awakened, so there was no “one” who awoke you. Now, what can happen is that the manifested consciousness can come to know itself and can come to understand the functioning of the totality. Please enter into the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
For more information on books that address all of the seven levels of the “journey” offered via the Advaita Teachings or that discuss in detail each of the seven steps, visit:
http://floydhenderson.com/nothingness.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/consiousnessawareness.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/iamabsolute.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/theessence.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/whenidie.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/liberation.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/peaceofmind.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/spiritualsobriety.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/bullshit.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twicestolen1.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twicestolen2.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/spiritjourney.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twelvestep.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/castinglight.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/boardofdirectors.htm