[Continued from yesterday: a follow-up to Raja’s original e-mail]
R.: Thanks for your profound insights. Now I understand the Consciousness as that which exists wihtout being conscious of(or aware of), like Light per se with out the source of light. Is my understanding right?
F.: No. Consciousness manifested and then corrupted via programming and conditioning is still conscious of something, even if what it is conscious of is a lie or is misconceived. If re-purified, it can be conscious of lies as lies, conscious of the Truth as Truth and then conscious of itSelf (as opposed to itself, meaning, as opposed to the false self or false selves that the corrupted consciousness takes to be real identities).
If not manifested, consciousness (called at that point “awareness without awareness” by some teachers) is not aware of anything in that state. [Note: that state is more a state of potentiality than "rest." Energy is always in motion.]
R.: If my introduction to advaita version concept was different from your advaita concept,and as you said all concepts have to be wiped out for realization. Do I still need to use thorns to remove thorns and read the books suggested by you or (I don't have any clue about other option )? Hope you have got my problem.Please guide me. Thanks in Advance.
F.: It is time for you to understand the following: this exercise of answering your questions has included a “shotgun-blast of elements” as responses were offered to a variety of queries that came from many levels along "the path." It happened for several purposes.
In addition to serving as entertainment, it might be that various visitors at various points along the “path” might relate to responses offered to questions asked from what amounts to a variety of points along the “path.”
The task for you now—as revealed by so many of your questions that are based in a belief in relative entities and Absolute entities—is to set aside all that you think you know. Set aside all that you have ever been told by religious or spiritual persons.
Then, begin the “journey” with the first step: be rid of your belief that you are the body; be rid of your identification with relative entities; and be rid of your belief that you will have some eternal identification as a supernatural entity with body, mind, and personality. Then, find the answer to where you were during the days prior to conception. That will require that you discard belief in fictional tales that assign supernatural explanations to all-natural happenings.
Then, find out why “You” would still be “You” even if “Raja” lost both arms and both legs and also has a heart transplant as well. Find that “You.” There is the point for starting a new “journey.” How to begin? That will require you to be rid of all that you have been taught and to be rid of all identities that have been assigned or assumed.
R.: Thanks for the reply. Please explain me why we should believe in one-ness or Advaita?
F.: There is no suggestion that “you should believe” in anything. There is much that you do believe in that could be discarded if you would be free of being fooled and would be free of the relative effects of those fictional tales that have been taught as truth.
Further, no Realized Advaitin will ever say, “Here is what you are to believe.” All pointers are offered to free you eventually of all beliefs and all concepts, not to add more beliefs and more concepts. Pointers are offered to guide you to seeing when lies are lies and to allow the truth within to be tapped into via the re-purified consciousness.
R.: What is there for us to realize? (in short) because, the answer is also a concept.
F.: Exactly, so now you might be moving toward an understanding of why thorns are used to remove thorns and are discarded thereafter. Any concepts used as pointers are intended to lead eventually to the no-concept, non-dual Reality.
R.: You said the realization happens when there are zero concepts. then the walls,mountains are without thoughts and concepts, so are they realized. I think this question is childish. Please excuse me and give a brief short answer?
F.: Sorry—the only part of that that makes any sense is the first sentence. Further, considering the fact that you have not yet taken the first of seven steps to Full Realization, it is suggested that you ignore whatever you’re trying to understand in this question and any others.
Instead, you will be invited tomorrow when this series concludes to ignore all of the questions you have raised. The answers have been offered for other visitors actually, since you are not ready for all of these considerations. The assignment for you is to do all that is necessary to be free first and foremost of your birth/body beliefs. If you do not do that, then the teachings that are actually relevant at steps that are farther along the "path" will never be grasped.
The invitation is to reach a condition where the consciousness is no longer corrupted with belief in concepts, if you would be free (meaning free of belief in man-made concepts that are held dear or sacred or supreme or divine by those specks of consciousness called "the non-Realized"). Please enter the silence of contemplation. (Tomorrow: The Conclusion)
For more information on books that address all of the seven levels of the “journey” offered via the Advaita Teachings or that discuss in detail each of the seven steps, visit:
http://floydhenderson.com/nothingness.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/consiousnessawareness.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/iamabsolute.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/theessence.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/whenidie.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/liberation.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/peaceofmind.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/spiritualsobriety.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/bullshit.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twicestolen1.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twicestolen2.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/spiritjourney.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/twelvestep.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/castinglight.htm
http://floydhenderson.com/boardofdirectors.htm
