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QUOTATIONS AND POINTERS dealing with NON-DUALITY, ADVAITA, NISARGA YOGA and more

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QUOTATIONS AND POINTERS dealing with NON-DUALITY, ADVAITA, NISARGA YOGA and more

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Quotations and Pointers by Category and Subject Matter 

from 

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

Quotations and Pointers by Category and Subject Matter from Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

REGARDING "THE TWO TYPES OF WITNESSING"

Maharaj: "There are two witnessing stages."

(The pointer was offered earlier when discussing the two types of witnessing which are "subject-object witnessing" and "Pure Witnessing." 

Many times, Maharaj simply used the term "witness" to refer to "Pure Witnessing"; at other times, he used "witness" to refer to the subject-object witness.

Once a seeker can differentiate "the witness" from "Pure Witnessing," then it becomes clear in each case which of the two types Maharaj is referencing in any given instance. 

In a few of the quotations below, for the sake of clarification until seekers understand his actual reference, inserts [ ] will be used to illustrate the difference.)

"For [s-o] witnessing, there must be something else to witness. We are still in duality!"

"Nobody can say: ‘I am the witness'. The ‘I am' is always witnessed. The state of detached awareness is the witness-consciousness . . . . "

"The 'I am' looks at things, the witness sees through them. It sees them as they are -- unreal and transient. To say 'not me, not mine' is the task of the witness."

"In other words, the difference between the person and the [Pure] Witness[ing] is as between not knowing [oneself] and knowing oneself."

[Eventually, Maharaj would shift from suggesting that a seven-step path be followed to recommending that a four-step path be used. Why? Because the 3rd step always encouraged the abandonment of all identifications - including phenomenal identities and so-called "Noumenal-Identities" - and then shifting into and abiding in the 4th step "Child No-Knowing State" or "The Child Ignorance State" wherein no identities or Identities were believed in. After that, Maharaj recommended that natural abidance happen for the remainder of the manifestation, declaring: "You do not need to seek to find who you are; you need but find all that you are not." Then you're done.]

"There is no effort in witnessing. You understand that you are the witness only and the understanding acts. You need nothing more, just remember that you are the witness only."

[Pure] "Witnessing is primarily awareness of consciousness and its movements."

"It is you that need my body to talk to you. I am not my body, nor do I need it. I am the Witness[ing] only. I have no shape of my own. You are so accustomed to think of yourselves as bodies having consciousness that you just cannot imagine consciousness as having bodies. Once you realise that bodily existence is but a state of mind, a movement in consciousness, that the ocean of consciousness is infinite and eternal, and that, when in touch with consciousness, You are the [Pure] Witness[ing] only, you will be able to withdraw beyond consciousness altogether."

"The Guru is basically without desire. He sees what happens, but feels no urge to interfere. He makes no choices, takes no decisions. As Pure Witness[ing], 'he' watches what is going on and remains unaffected."

"Man becomes what he believes himself to be. Abandon all ideas about yourself and you will find yourself to be the pure witness, beyond all that can happen to the body or the mind."

"You live, you feel, you think. By giving attention to your living, feeling and thinking, you free yourself from them and go beyond them. Your personality dissolves and only the witness remains."

"The witness" [that is, "Pure Witnessing," which is as close as one can get to understanding the term "The True Self"] "is not a person. The person comes into being when there is a basis for it, an organism, a body. In it the absolute is reflected as awareness" [if realization happens].

Q: "What about the witness? Is it real or unreal?"
M: "It is both. The last remnant of illusion, the first touch of the real. To say: I am only the witness is both false and true: false because of the 'I am', true because of the witness. It is better to say: 'there is witnessing'. The moment you say: 'I am', the entire universe comes into being along with its 'creator'."

Q: "Has the witness name and form, or is it beyond these?"
M: "The witness is merely a point in awareness. It has no name and form." [That pointer allows for a key understanding that is missed by most seekers and by those who only think that they are realized: The pointer "The witness is merely a point in awareness" means that "the Pure Witnessing" is merely a point in awareness. And the salient fact which that pointer makes clear is that the "Pure Witnessing" is all that the "True Self" or the "Real Self" is, which is in itself matter / energy; therefore, because there is no aware-of-ness in the post-manifestation state of awareness, then there can be no post-manifestation self-ness, no Self-ness, no Self, no True Self, no Real Self, no being, no Being, no non-being, and no non-Being, and no identity or "Identity" of any kind, either.]

"The personality gives place to the witness; then, the witness goes and pure awareness remains."

"The nature of the self (that is, eternal energy which can manifest temporarily) is pure awareness, pure witnessing, unaffected by the presence or absence of knowledge or liking."

"One must also know that a rope exists and looks like a snake. Similarly, one must know that the real exists and is of the nature of witness-consciousness. Of course it is beyond the witness, but to enter it one must first realise the state of pure witnessing. The awareness of conditions brings one to the unconditioned."

"As long as we imagine ourselves to be separate personalities, one quite apart from another, we cannot grasp reality which is essentially impersonal. First we must know ourselves as witnesses only, dimensionless and timeless centres of observation, and then realise that immense ocean of pure awareness, which is both mind and matter and beyond both."

Questioner: "Is the witness-consciousness permanent or not?"
Maharaj: "It is not permanent. The knower rises and sets with the known. That in which both the knower and the known arise and set is beyond time. The words 'permanent' or 'eternal' do not apply" [to anything temporarily manifested].

"The witness only registers events. In the abeyance of the mind even the sense 'I am' dissolves. There is no 'I am' without the mind."

"When the mind is quiet, we come to know ourselves as the pure witness. We withdraw from the experience and its experiencer and stand apart in pure awareness, which is between and beyond the two. The personality, based on self-identification, on imagining oneself to be something: 'I am this, I am that', continues, but only as a part of the objective world. Its identification with the witness snaps."

"In witnessing, in awareness, self-consciousness, the sense of being this or that, is not. Unidentified being remains."

"All has its being in me, in the ‘I am’, that shines in every living being. Even not-being is unthinkable without me. Whatever happens, I must be there to witness it."

"You must watch yourself continuously - particularly your mind - moment by moment, missing nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self [eternal energy / matter] from the not-self."

"Watching . . . thoughts and concepts, I came to the conclusion that whatever is happening is in the consciousness. All kinds of things were happening - thoughts and experiences - and they were credited to my account; but once I have seen what it is, all those account books have been burned and I no longer have any account. How amusing it is to see someone who thinks of himself as an individual, who thinks of himself as a doer or achiever."

After "having stabilized in the consciousness, the next step is to be in a position to observe the consciousness, and all the play that is happening in the consciousness, just to understand. Attachment to the body and to the consciousness is very strong; to get rid of it is very difficult."

" . . . That consciousness principle is there at that center. As you merge into the world, the movement increases. Watch that center point, watch that movement of consciousness. That central, stationary point of the wheel watches the movement of consciousness. The one that observes the movement is almost stationary. To bring about the actions of the world — the movement — consciousness must descend. If there is no consciousness, there is no worldly movement. Similarly, you must become stabilized in a more stationary position, near the center. When you leave that center point, the movement takes over."

"Consciousness is there in the child as it is in the parents; it is always the same consciousness whether in the child or the adult. There is only one consciousness." [The reference is to the pure, universal consciousness as it exists prior to humans being
programmed, conditioned, domesticated, acculturated, brainwashed, and indoctrinated. The problem is that the Pure Witnessing, the pure consciousness, becomes blocked - some even say, "corrupted" - by programming, conditioning, etc. along with the subsequent assignment and assumption of identities.]

"Just as a sleeping man forgets all and wakes up for another day, or he dies and emerges into another life, so do the worlds of desire and fear dissolve and disappear."

"At the root of all creation lies desire. Desire and imagination foster and reinforce each other. The fourth state (turiya) is a state of pure witnessing, detached awareness, passionless and wordless. It is like space, unaffected by whatever it contains. Bodily and mental troubles do not reach it -- they are outside, 'there', while the witness is always 'here'."

"Reflected awareness, the sense ‘I am aware’ is the witness, while Pure Awareness is the essence of Reality."

"What you are describing is not awareness at all, but only thinking about the experience. True awareness (samvid) is a state of pure witnessing, without the least attempt to do anything about the event witnessed. Your thoughts and feelings, words and actions may also be a part of the event; You watch all unconcerned in the full light of clarity and understanding. You understand precisely what is going on because it does not affect you. It may seem to be an attitude of cold aloofness, but it is not really so."

To be continued.

Please enter into the silence of contemplation.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION


If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you." 

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:


"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II 

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.] 

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