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IN TERMS OF “REALIZATION” AS A NON-DUAL PROCESS, THE MATH AIN’T MATHING

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IN TERMS OF “REALIZATION” AS A NON-DUAL PROCESS, THE MATH AIN’T MATHING

“The math ain’t mathing.”

Taraji P. Henson

“You do not need to allow yourself to be taught more; you do not need to work more and more in order to learn more and more; you do not need to add to the body of nonsense and BS which ‘they’ passed on to you via conditioning and programming. You need less of everything, not more of anything. What you need to do is subtract, not add. You need to un-learn; you need to be un-taught.”

--floyd

Ruby Bridges: “Racism is a grown-up disease. Let’s stop using our kids to spread it.

Floyd: “The same applies to all that grown-ups add when forming the minds of kids, including hate, racism, xenophobia, white supremacy, Christian nationalism, beliefs about ‘different from’ and therefore ‘better-than,’ and (per Maharaj) ‘ignorance, stupidity, and insanity’.”

“Go forth, unburdened with ideas and beliefs.”
--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

. . . “Go home, take charge of your father’s business, look after your parents in their old age. Marry the girl who is waiting for you; be loyal, be simple, be humble. Hide your virtue, live silently.”

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

“ . . . Question wisely. You will find you know nothing for sure - you trust on hearsay.”

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

“A little learning can be a dangerous thing.”

--Alexander Pope

“Anything short of total un-learning is a far-more-dangerous thing, relatively speaking.”

--floyd

“For the supposedly realized to deny the AM-ness is just as delusional as it is for the non-realized to identify solely with the Am-ness.”

--floyd

Natural Living in the Absence of Identification

The ultimate non-dual understanding is that there need not be any understanding, there being no “one” to understand at all; however, that pointer is not for the beginner.

The entire “path” must be followed, that understanding above notwithstanding. After following the “path,” the intent is to “return” and to live out the remainder of the relative existence, and it is for the remainder of the relative existence that seekers here are invited to live in a natural, Nisarga method.

As noted earlier, AS IF living (based in the no-concept, non-dual, no-identity Reality) is seldom modeled by any of the humans walking about among the masses; thus, one cannot look to the non-realized masses to find examples of such natural living.

Look to nature instead; thus, to continue the earlier discussion, true AS IF living is a mode of natural living, modeled in nature by animals such as the deer, primarily docile and at peace . . . living a minimalist existence . . . accumulating nothing . . . believing nothing . . . never fighting for any “belief” . . .

functioning quite splendidly without any “identity” even though sensing presence . . . and either enjoying all aspects of the manifestation or tolerating all aspects of the manifestation in a no-attachment-mode.

How closely does your relative existence reflect that mode of Nisarga, natural living? Is it possible that you might also function quite splendidly, even without any concepts or dualistic beliefs or any “identity”?

As noted earlier, many seekers over the years have challenged the plausibility of the “try living more like the deer” pointer that is offered here. One said,

“I have a class of twenty-two second graders that I’m responsible for. That includes teaching them what they have to know for the state test, disciplining them, chaperoning them to lunch, getting the sick ones out of the room and to the school nurse, dealing with their principals and counselors, making tests, grading tests, planning lessons, and conferencing with parents. Tell me how I’m supposed to live as peacefully as a deer in the woods.”

The reply: What is obvious in the comment first is a level of stress that is typical among many teachers, yet a high level of stress is typical among most persons around the globe. So how can you, or anyone in any stressful profession or situation, live more in the style of a deer and avoid that stress?

First, by realizing fully and then completing the third leg of the “journey.” Should that happen, you will no longer identify yourself as “The Teacher” (which is usually upgraded to “The Super Teacher,” an ego-state which co-dependently requires “Super Students” for “The Super Teacher’s” happiness and, indeed, very survival. More on that to follow.)

Stay in that mode and you will never be happy and stress-free because you will never consistently have “Super Students” that are more concerned with assuring your happiness than with their own interests and agendas.

However, if you were to realize who / what you are not (namely “The Teacher” or “The Super Teacher”) and realize THAT which you truly are, then even as you are no longer “The Teacher” . . .

1. Your employment can still happen;

2. being paid after completing your tasks can still continue;

3. all of the job tasks that you catalogued above can still happen;

4. and it can all take place even as an AS IF lifestyle - which includes a style that can be as peaceful as that of a deer - can also happen.

How can that be?

When the role of “The Teacher” is accepted as an identity, then - as referenced earlier - egomania immediately promotes or upgrades that persona to the imaginary status of “The Super Teacher.” And what does “The Super Teacher” think that it must have in order to exist?

(1) Super lessons that are being sought wholeheartedly by (2) “Super Students.” And when students are not doing what “The Super Students” are expected to do, then “The Super Teacher” feels as if he / she is dying and begins to fight for his / her life by attacking “the not-super-students” who, for example, were not paying attention.

[Such attacks come as often from “The Super Spouse” who is not getting the respect desired, from “The Super Performer” who is not getting the attention that is wanted, or from “The Super Employer” whose employees are not paying adequate attention or “doing” what “Super Employees” are expected to do.]

When that ego-state of “The Teacher” dissolves (post-realization), a shift results after the understanding becomes, “Teaching might happen today . . . or not, but even more significantly, unteaching might happen.”

(That simply means that no ego-state is attached to outcome, no ego-state is bent on controlling things that are beyond one's control, and that no ego-state is ready and willing to fight in order to maintain a false image.)

To be continued.

Please enter into the silence of contemplation.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION


If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you." 

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:


"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II 

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.] 

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