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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.
Furthermore, for those who have developed a preference for any non-nisargan yoga or who prefer Traditional Advaita Vedanta, Neo-Advaita, Neo-Vedanta, or Pseudo Advaita: here you will only find the use of the Direct Path Method of teaching along with the Nisarga (Natural) Yoga, all shared in simple, everyday English.
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FROM A SITE REGULAR: Dearest f. Used to work with a psychiatrist ... some would accuse him of being cold as he laid out the reality of any given situation. He wanted to spur folk to stop the romancing, the search for false succor, and the unreality of nostalgia. Now I know that. There is more compassion in the exposition of freedom for folk than most will ever understand. Love, g.
F.: Excellent point. Thx, PLL, f.
FROM A SITE VISITOR (Two days ago): No prior Me-ness? Surely there was something?
F.: [Visitors: Please note that, again, the pointers in this reply are not for the seeker that is on the early steps along the "path," nor for those attached to beliefs that are based on the content of supposedly "holy" texts.
These pointers are for those that have done it all, sought it all, "gotten" most of it, and yet realize that there is some "final piece" that is still missing; thus, these talks are for only those at the highest state of readiness. The e-mail above with its brevity and directness and subject matter suggests the writer might be ready for the final understanding. So, to his questioning of a pointer in the previous series, the response is:]
The only "prior something" in "your" case was a series of ancestors, and those ancestors were basically plant food. All who have been considered your "ancestors" and your so-called "parents" were nothing more than a conglomeration of food particles - just the essence of whatever was eaten. Those combined particles resulted in a form or space in which conscious-energy manifested for a spell and through which the air moved for a spell.
Seekers who have studied Traditional Advaita Vedanta - and some who have studied via the Direct Path Method here - want to be able to define some pre-manifestation "who-ness" or "what-ness" as well as some post-manifestation "who-ness" or "what-ness." At a certain level, fine.
With seekers at those certain levels, such talk of Self is level-appropriate. And yes, even Direct Path Method teachers will suggest that seekers at certain levels "find where they were days prior to conception," a consideration offered here on occasion.
But for the seekers moving farther along the "path," it is to be understood that at a certain point, even the egg and sperm did not exist as the forms that would later be involved in the impregnation that nine months later resulted in what was called "the birth" of what was called "you."
But here, at the ultimate level, the focus in the end is not on what is taught and learned (or un-taught and un-learned) via the Direct Path Method. Here, at the ultimate level, the focus is on that which can happen via an understanding of the Nisarga Yoga and the natural style in which the remainder of the relative existence can unfold when all notions of "who-ness" and "what-ness" dissolve.
The totally contented deer that live in the copses and smaller pockets of trees that surround the house are the model. The difference is, unlike programmed and conditioned persons, the deer do not have to go through the Direct Path Method steps as offered here in order to be prepared to understand the means to nisarga living as offered here.
They go straight to it, automatically ... spontaneously. They enter into a style of natural living and are never "diverted" from the path they travel. That only happens to humans. So let the discussion move forward in order for the diversions to be dissolved and in order for the natural, free, blissful, non-dual, no-concept, no-beingness, and no non-beingness abidance to begin and to be enjoyed ... NOW.
Thus, the invitation is (to those ready, and only for those ready) to receive the final understanding. With that prerequisite, consider: how could any "you" have existed "prior to" if even the food (which would be converted to an egg cell and a sperm cell that would unite and result in an impregnation) had not even been eaten in those days prior to conception and if - even earlier - the food that would become an egg cell and a sperm cell did not yet even exist in its edible form?
Go back - follow the trail in order to trace what you think yourself to be. Move back from (8) the conception to (7) a sperm set into motion to spontaneously seek an egg to (6) an act of friction to (5) plant food cells being transformed into sperm and egg cells to (4) plant food being prepared and eaten to (3) plant food being acquired to (2) plants growing to (1) the elements.
Where in that chain - which can be traced back and can be seen to have been repeated for trillions upon trillions of times for millions upon millions of years on this planet - could you possibly claim the existence of any "you-ness" or "You-ness"?
WHO would want to make such a claim? Only the one motivated by arrogance, as with the woman in Louisiana who was referenced in the last series, totally pre-occupied with "her genealogy." Only one so trapped in one or more ego-states and in so much egotism that one would want to trace his or her lineage back to some "famous, big name people" and beyond that to "God" or "a god" or "a goddess" or some "Supreme Self."
All of that talk is fine along the way, but at the end of all the talk, is one merely attached to newly-acquired Advaita concepts or is one free to abide naturally? The end game here is not to allow a new ego-state to emerge, namely, the Advaita Vedanta expert;
the end game here lies not in the teaching method but in the yoga ... not in acquiring new knowledge but in being free of all knowledge and living as naturally as everything else on the planet except humans.
The option should be clear: (A) the "personal- you, persona-game" will trap you for the entirety of the manifestation in the fluctuations between gladness and sadness, between efforts to generate chaos out of boredom or efforts to control in order to eliminate chaos; or (B) the "end-game" will allow for the freedom to merely witness persons as they try to control and as they generate chaos or as they react to chaos and try to eliminate it.
The farther removed You become from your "Me-ness" and their "They-ness," the smaller everything that is witnessed will become. This final understanding allows you to turn around the telescope that you have been using to witness what you witness - exaggerating its size and significance - and allows you to look at all through the reversed telescope and witness everything in a far more accurate view:
by turning the telescope around, all that is witnessed appears to be small and insignificant. That is as it should be. Then, you will function as the doe that was witnessed yesterday while coasting by her during the morning bicycle ride.
She lay at the edge of the road in the cool blue shade. She watched "the approach" and "the passing by" but her two huge eyes revealed a totally detached expression - a totally detached demeanor - and it was clear that neither "floyd" nor the bike nor "the coming" nor "the going" meant a damn thing to her.
With the final understanding, you can live as sanely as she. You will not be attached to, nor pre-occupied with, "the apparent coming" or with "the inevitable going." That will leave you free of the misery and suffering that are generated by the desires and the fears of personality and personal identity (or, more typically, multiple identities).
The invitation here is to be as free of the concepts of "Me-ness" and "Them-ness" as she and to then abide as she abides: with total independence, with total freedom from cares and concerns, with an ability to do what must be done to allow the manifestation to continue for now but to simultaneously abide in a fashion that allows the manifestation to continue in a natural - rather than in some phony, supernatural or some debilitating, unnatural - manner.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
F.: Excellent point. Thx, PLL, f.
FROM A SITE VISITOR (Two days ago): No prior Me-ness? Surely there was something?
F.: [Visitors: Please note that, again, the pointers in this reply are not for the seeker that is on the early steps along the "path," nor for those attached to beliefs that are based on the content of supposedly "holy" texts.
These pointers are for those that have done it all, sought it all, "gotten" most of it, and yet realize that there is some "final piece" that is still missing; thus, these talks are for only those at the highest state of readiness. The e-mail above with its brevity and directness and subject matter suggests the writer might be ready for the final understanding. So, to his questioning of a pointer in the previous series, the response is:]
The only "prior something" in "your" case was a series of ancestors, and those ancestors were basically plant food. All who have been considered your "ancestors" and your so-called "parents" were nothing more than a conglomeration of food particles - just the essence of whatever was eaten. Those combined particles resulted in a form or space in which conscious-energy manifested for a spell and through which the air moved for a spell.
Seekers who have studied Traditional Advaita Vedanta - and some who have studied via the Direct Path Method here - want to be able to define some pre-manifestation "who-ness" or "what-ness" as well as some post-manifestation "who-ness" or "what-ness." At a certain level, fine.
With seekers at those certain levels, such talk of Self is level-appropriate. And yes, even Direct Path Method teachers will suggest that seekers at certain levels "find where they were days prior to conception," a consideration offered here on occasion.
But for the seekers moving farther along the "path," it is to be understood that at a certain point, even the egg and sperm did not exist as the forms that would later be involved in the impregnation that nine months later resulted in what was called "the birth" of what was called "you."
But here, at the ultimate level, the focus in the end is not on what is taught and learned (or un-taught and un-learned) via the Direct Path Method. Here, at the ultimate level, the focus is on that which can happen via an understanding of the Nisarga Yoga and the natural style in which the remainder of the relative existence can unfold when all notions of "who-ness" and "what-ness" dissolve.
The totally contented deer that live in the copses and smaller pockets of trees that surround the house are the model. The difference is, unlike programmed and conditioned persons, the deer do not have to go through the Direct Path Method steps as offered here in order to be prepared to understand the means to nisarga living as offered here.
They go straight to it, automatically ... spontaneously. They enter into a style of natural living and are never "diverted" from the path they travel. That only happens to humans. So let the discussion move forward in order for the diversions to be dissolved and in order for the natural, free, blissful, non-dual, no-concept, no-beingness, and no non-beingness abidance to begin and to be enjoyed ... NOW.
Thus, the invitation is (to those ready, and only for those ready) to receive the final understanding. With that prerequisite, consider: how could any "you" have existed "prior to" if even the food (which would be converted to an egg cell and a sperm cell that would unite and result in an impregnation) had not even been eaten in those days prior to conception and if - even earlier - the food that would become an egg cell and a sperm cell did not yet even exist in its edible form?
Go back - follow the trail in order to trace what you think yourself to be. Move back from (8) the conception to (7) a sperm set into motion to spontaneously seek an egg to (6) an act of friction to (5) plant food cells being transformed into sperm and egg cells to (4) plant food being prepared and eaten to (3) plant food being acquired to (2) plants growing to (1) the elements.
Where in that chain - which can be traced back and can be seen to have been repeated for trillions upon trillions of times for millions upon millions of years on this planet - could you possibly claim the existence of any "you-ness" or "You-ness"?
WHO would want to make such a claim? Only the one motivated by arrogance, as with the woman in Louisiana who was referenced in the last series, totally pre-occupied with "her genealogy." Only one so trapped in one or more ego-states and in so much egotism that one would want to trace his or her lineage back to some "famous, big name people" and beyond that to "God" or "a god" or "a goddess" or some "Supreme Self."
All of that talk is fine along the way, but at the end of all the talk, is one merely attached to newly-acquired Advaita concepts or is one free to abide naturally? The end game here is not to allow a new ego-state to emerge, namely, the Advaita Vedanta expert;
the end game here lies not in the teaching method but in the yoga ... not in acquiring new knowledge but in being free of all knowledge and living as naturally as everything else on the planet except humans.
The option should be clear: (A) the "personal- you, persona-game" will trap you for the entirety of the manifestation in the fluctuations between gladness and sadness, between efforts to generate chaos out of boredom or efforts to control in order to eliminate chaos; or (B) the "end-game" will allow for the freedom to merely witness persons as they try to control and as they generate chaos or as they react to chaos and try to eliminate it.
The farther removed You become from your "Me-ness" and their "They-ness," the smaller everything that is witnessed will become. This final understanding allows you to turn around the telescope that you have been using to witness what you witness - exaggerating its size and significance - and allows you to look at all through the reversed telescope and witness everything in a far more accurate view:
by turning the telescope around, all that is witnessed appears to be small and insignificant. That is as it should be. Then, you will function as the doe that was witnessed yesterday while coasting by her during the morning bicycle ride.
She lay at the edge of the road in the cool blue shade. She watched "the approach" and "the passing by" but her two huge eyes revealed a totally detached expression - a totally detached demeanor - and it was clear that neither "floyd" nor the bike nor "the coming" nor "the going" meant a damn thing to her.
With the final understanding, you can live as sanely as she. You will not be attached to, nor pre-occupied with, "the apparent coming" or with "the inevitable going." That will leave you free of the misery and suffering that are generated by the desires and the fears of personality and personal identity (or, more typically, multiple identities).
The invitation here is to be as free of the concepts of "Me-ness" and "Them-ness" as she and to then abide as she abides: with total independence, with total freedom from cares and concerns, with an ability to do what must be done to allow the manifestation to continue for now but to simultaneously abide in a fashion that allows the manifestation to continue in a natural - rather than in some phony, supernatural or some debilitating, unnatural - manner.
Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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Much of what Louise has shared has resonated with many site visitors. to that end, some have inquired recently if Louise offers the online Advaita Internet Course. The answer is, "Yes."
Whether taking the course with Louise or Floyd, the price of the course includes all 11 of the Advaita eBooks, questions sent after completion of the assigned readings, replies to your answers, and follow-up as required.
With either teacher, you will be guided through all seven of the steps, in order, that lead from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond). For more specific information and details about the course, you may click on the link to the right.
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Whether taking the course with Louise or Floyd, the price of the course includes all 11 of the Advaita eBooks, questions sent after completion of the assigned readings, replies to your answers, and follow-up as required.
With either teacher, you will be guided through all seven of the steps, in order, that lead from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond). For more specific information and details about the course, you may click on the link to the right.
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Now you can receive for $40 a downloadable computer file version of the same 7-hour satsang that seekers receive when they visit for the Advaita Retreat with Floyd. You will be guided through the seven steps from identification with the false "I" to the Absolute (and beyond).
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DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.
NOTE: When you order this package, you receive three additional ebooks free: CASTING LIGHT ON THE DARK SIDE OF RELATIONSHIPS, FINDING REAL LOVE IN AN UNREAL WORLD and THE TWICE-STOLEN NECKLACE MURDERS (offering the Advaita teachings in a fictional novel format)
For more information or to order, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
SIX WAYS THAT SEEKERS HAVE REALIZED:
1. BY WATCHING the 4-Disk Video (DVD) Set, or the same retreat available as a downloadable file. Either will provide an entire seven-hour retreat / series of satsang sessions showing three seekers being guided through all seven steps by Floyd and can provide viewers with an “experiential,” step-by-step series of satsang meetings that will move the viewers from identification with the I to abidance as the Absolute and then to abidance as That Which Is beyond
Some seekers are already using the computer file version and the DVD sets for meetings in groups in homes, playing the retreat, pausing for discussion, etc.
To find out more or to purchase the DVD set or the downloadable computer file version of the retreat, click:
DVD or Downloadable computer file versions of the Four-Day Advaita Retreat
Option “A” is for the downloadable file version, Option “B” is used to order the DVD set for delivery inside the U.S., Option “C” for international orders.
For the download, Paypal will send me a notice that payment has been received and then I will send by e-mail the downloading instruction, password, etc.
[It is recommended that you watch the video with pen and paper in hand. Write whatever you need clarified. You'll see that there are constant reviews and you might find an answer later in the seven-hour presentation. Then, after you watch it all, there will be a common ground for discussion. Purchase of the DVD’s or the file will include the right to clarifications and answers to your specific questions via e-mail.]
2. BY READING these books in this exact order:
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT (And Why Knowing It Sets You Free)
SPIRITUAL SOBRIETY (Recovering What Religions Lost)
[Those two prepare the seeker to question it all]
THE MEDITATION GUIDES
[Provide a broad overview of the understanding]
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?
[Begins to free the seeker of body identification and the desire for body continuity]
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "PEACE OF MIND" (There Is Only Peace if You're Out of Your Mind)
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of the false content of the “mind”]
LIBERATION
[Shows the seeker how to be free of the subconscious motivators of personas]
THE ESSENCE OF THE TEACHINGS
[Provides the final preparation for the seeker to be directed along the “path”]
FROM THE I TO THE ABSOLUTE (A Seven-Step Journey to Reality)
[Directs the seeker along the “path”]
CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: The Nature of Reality Beyond Self-Realization (Peace Every Day When Abiding as The Absolute)
[Allows the seeker to understand the functioning of the totality, the manifestation, and what is involved with the un-manifestation]
FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS
[Provides the seeker the wisdom to understand the Noneness as well as the Oneness]
Purchase an e-Book now and begin reading it in minutes (except with e-checks that can take 7-10 days). Trusting our clients as we do, all e-Books are provided to you in printable form.
SAVE IF YOU BUY ALL ELEVEN AT ONCE:
(You may order the books one at a time or you may use the following link to acquire the entire 11-e-Book set on sale for $99 if ordered at one time with the “Buy Now” button below. For this option, there will be no download links provided; once the near-instant notice of payment is received from PayPal, your e-Books will be sent to you as e-mail attachments. All are printable for your convenience.
NOTE: When you order this package, you receive three additional ebooks free: CASTING LIGHT ON THE DARK SIDE OF RELATIONSHIPS, FINDING REAL LOVE IN AN UNREAL WORLD and THE TWICE-STOLEN NECKLACE MURDERS (offering the Advaita teachings in a fictional novel format)
You may visit The Official Website of Floyd Henderson for information on each book.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
Received 19 August 2010 from one that just completed the entire course:
I would like to extend deepest appreciation towards you for these teachings that you have offered. It has been most valuable towards what may not have been revealed throughout this manifestation labeled "anthony." Understanding Truth and finding words for gratitude are one as is all. Thank you again for pointing "me" to THAT and the understanding that came as well. Hopeful for future "contact"! Sincerely, Anthony M. W.
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4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally.
Presently, Skype sessions are being conducted with parties in Australia; The Netherlands; New Jersey, U.S.A.; London, England; Italy; and India.
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
3. BY ENROLLING in the Online Advaita Classes
Received 19 August 2010 from one that just completed the entire course:
I would like to extend deepest appreciation towards you for these teachings that you have offered. It has been most valuable towards what may not have been revealed throughout this manifestation labeled "anthony." Understanding Truth and finding words for gratitude are one as is all. Thank you again for pointing "me" to THAT and the understanding that came as well. Hopeful for future "contact"! Sincerely, Anthony M. W.
For information, visit Information on the Advaita Classes on the Internet
To enroll visit Enroll in the Advaita Internet Course
4. BY ATTENDING an Advaitin retreat for satsang with floyd and being guided through all seven steps. For details of the retreats offered, please visit the retreat information site.
5. BY ARRANGING satsang by telephone in the U.S. or by Skype internationally.
Presently, Skype sessions are being conducted with parties in Australia; The Netherlands; New Jersey, U.S.A.; London, England; Italy; and India.
Use the Contact link for details or for information on making arrangements for a session
6. BY ARRANGING for floyd to travel to your location and meet with you or your group. Use the contact link above to discuss details.
The Twice-Stolen Necklace Murders offers the non-duality message by way of a mystery-adventure novel, discussing the movement from pain to healing to awakening to peace.
From Dr. R.F. Maley, Ph.D, Professor Emeritus and former Head of the Department of Psychology, University of Houston: "Floyd Henderson's book, The Twice-Stolen Necklace Murders, is a fun read and an interesting mystery, but perhaps more importantly it serves as a vehicle for blending Eastern Philosophy and Native American Spirituality to make an intellectually challenging novel. The book's insights into both relationships and authoritarian conditioning of people in our society make it a must read, tracing the roots of narcissistic, sociopathic and psychopathic behaviors to the very core of the culture. This truly witty and politically-incorrect study of the aggressive nature of 'the American character' offers not only a diagnosis but also a treatment plan, making the book an excellent supplemental reading in courses such as psychology, anthropology, philosophy, sociology and counseling."
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THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF WARS
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