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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE

"Science will someday advance to the point that it will confirm the validity of the non-dual teachings."
--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and
Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, domesticated, indoctrinated, and brainwashed to believe so that you can be free, period.
--Floyd Henderson
[Continued from yesterday]

No institutions has come up with more concepts which have generated more false identities and more false beliefs than have cults and sky cults and ancient pagan religions which have evolved into modern religions. 

And no institutions have been more anti-science than those institutions which have been led historically by ignorant men and women who have felt threatened by the truth even as they purport to be the speakers of truth. 

If truth is being pointed at, it is being pointed at when the pure universal consciousness speaks, never when the blocked consciousness speaks and never when a programmed, conditioned, domesticated, acculturated, indoctrinated, and brainwashed person speaks. 

How could that point be offered with confidence? 

1. By looking at my own indoctrination-based religious and spiritual experiences; and by witnessing objectively the experiences of thousands of persons I've talked with over at various points throughout the 72 years of the manifestation of the one some persons call "floyd"; and by looking at the thoughts and words and actions of millions of persons throughout human history;

and 

2. by then finding the source which has generated more beliefs among the non-realized masses than any other single source. 

Granted the sources at first glance might seem to be quite varied, be they called: 

The Bhagavad Gita or the Upanishads or the Vedas 

(of which Maharaj said, “I have no faith in anything which has ever been told, not even what has been told by the Vedas. Only my own experience.”) 

or 

The Tipiáš­aka 

or 

The Torah and the Talmud 

or 

The Old Testament and the New Testament 

or 

The Kojiki / Furukotofumi 

or 

The Quran

or 

The Guru Granth Sahib 

or 

The Kitab-i-Aqdas 

or 

The Book of Rites 

or 

The Agamas

or

any of the other near-infinite number of texts or popular books by those whom Maharaj called "The Big Name Teachers Who Should Be Avoided" and which are taken by persons to be "the most authoritative and sacred texts on the proper methods of worshipping and / or living in 'the right way'." 

Yet they are not especially unique because they all share much in common. Why? As explained this way by Ken Surridge, that is the case because . . . 

"humans steal from other religions when creating new ones; 

"because religion does not need to be original but just needs to meet the insecurities or ambitions of its creators and adherents (at any given point in history); 

"because religion weaves it myths in territories that are fantastical, like 'the afterlife'; 

"because these are areas in which it is easy to make claims (which cannot be disproved for believers or which will not be challenged or which will not be questioned); 

"and because they appeal to the same drivers in people." 

Thus, the pointer that they "are likely to be alike." 

And of concern to the wise who see sit back and see the volumes of ignorant lies which are being spread is the fact that those "claims" are nothing more than bogus concepts, "fantastical" fantasies, hollow promises, imaginary myths, and bizarre superstitions (a.k.a., "beliefs") which for thousands of years have served as the basis for humankind's belief systems which have no factual or truthful or accurate or realistic basis at all. 

Robert Longo shared this about the commonality of the content of those written works which contain the supposedly "holy" and "inspired" words of dreamed up entities in other dreamed up worlds:

"Many holy books share the same themes because they all try to explain things that humans believed at those times. Going back thousands of years, many of the now-dead religions shared similar myths shared by the Abrahamic religions. Many included the virgin birth, the flood stories, (and an afterlife, and eternal punishment or rewards), etc. Many worshipped things that supported life, like the sun, trees, water, etc.

"Many saw similar shapes in the stars since our brains have evolved into pattern-seeking machines. These stories were the best interpretation of nature that humans had at the time. It wasn’t until the scientific method came around that many of the myths were debunked.

"When we figured out what lightning was, the Nordic realised Thor was no longer necessary. When humans realised how the tides worked, there was no need for Poseidon. There is a huge heapintg pile of gods that humans no longer have need for. 

"Another thing that many religions have in common is the idea that if you do not follow the rules, you will suffer grave consequences. The idea of this is to control people. As the wanderer-gatherer people started to farm and start larger social groups, there needed to be control on behaviour. In a smaller group you could shun someone who violated group rules. 

"As the groups got a lot bigger, governments formed. And to make sure you didn’t think you could get away with something, there’s an eye in the sky watching you. God. Imagine that. He loves you, but if you leave him, he’ll kill you. Or give you eternal damnation. Or you will come back in the next life as a slug (I need to brush up on my Hindu). 

"As science gives us more and more explanations that the myths, the thousands-of-years-old myths, are false, all religions will slowly erode and their silly (and dangerous) explanations will become superfluous. At least that’s what I hope." 

For consideration prior to tomorrow's post, consider what this book cover suggests is at the heart and core of beliefs: 


To be continued.
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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"
--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."
--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places
but are states of mind, nothing more than
concepts dreamed up by men."&
--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."
--Pope Francis, the current pope
in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,
a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record
teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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