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FROM A SITE VISITOR: Nothing has been said about the recent economic chaos. Seems there are some opportunities for pointers.

FROM A SITE VISITOR: How come no comments on the U.S. elections? Jerry

F.: To both visitors: pointers have been offered on this site about the economic chaos, as well as the conduct of some persons during the election, for more than three years before the events began. Without minimizing any of the current relative misery and suffering, pointers have been offer to "prepare" persons for these events by offering a means by which they could realize and then dwell as their natural state.


In the last two weeks, people have shared that their 401K’s have been reduced by the following amounts: $60,000…$100,000…$150,000 and $250,000, and from their market investments, two reported that they have lost $6,000,000 and $10,000,000 respectively. As for “floyd,” yes, a reduction in income has happened.

And yes, even the Realized can feel, so of course the misery out “there” is felt “here,” the oneness allowing no other alternative. But much has been said regarding “money and things accumulated” and a sense of "loss" since the summer of 2005:

1. Then there are the Penans and the Apayao tribes. Neither tribe has words or terms for “separation” or for “thank you.” There is no separation or proprietorship in their worldview, so there’s no need to thank anyone for anything because there are no words for “giving” or for “taking.” All is shared with all others, so there is no personal ownership. One early post on this site discussed the conflict that grows out of the western concepts of possession that are expressed with “my” and “mine.” Those two words do not exist in the languages of the tribes above.

2. It is understood that, as the Realized poet Lennon wrote, if Realization were to be widespread, then there would be “no heaven above, no hell below, no countries, no religion, no possessions, and no greed”…just specks of consciousness “living for now as one”…as “not two.”

3. That which You Truly Are is colorless, religion-less, spirituality-less, body-less, mind-less, personality-less, appearance-less, form-less, time-less, shape-less, attribute-less and possession-less.

4. Actually, most of the material things that were worked for and paid for during a twenty-year period were taken away by an egomaniac. The money and those possessions are now being shared with another man by that person, so the pointer that you reference was not offered from within a vacuum. [NOTE: As angry as some are at strangers who have cost them money, more on the planet have, or will have, their money and possessions taken from them by so-called "loved" ones.]

5. Maharaj was quoted as having said, "Suppose somebody abuses you and you find out who it is. Is it the body? It is not the body. Then what could it be? Finally you come to the conclusion that it is spontaneously happening out of whatever that body is. You will not attribute it to any individual. When your individuality is dissolved, you will not see individuals anywhere, it is just a functioning in consciousness. If it clicks in you, it is very easy to understand. If it does not, it is most difficult. It is very profound and very simple, if understood right."

6. The basic elements and the energy will remain, but no “relative combinings” are permanent. That applies to bridges and to marriages, to cars and to courtships, to computers and to possessions.

7. Realized, peace can manifest whether “in a ‘relationship’” or not. There could be no dualistic sense of “gain” and therefore no sense of “loss.” There could be no expectations, demands, desires, or fears. Resentment fades as “The Offended One” fades away.

8. There could be no sense of personal ownership, no sense of dependence, no (unnatural) desire to have all of your “needs” met by “someone else” or “others.”

9. The indigenous peoples had no word for “ownership.”

Now, the case made time and again in the past (that no one in the relative owns anything) has been driven home with a crushing relative impact on many people worldwide.


As for the way the U.S. election for president is happening, pointers have been offered for years regarding the non-Realized who think and speak in duality, referring to those who are “pro” vs. those who are “anti”; disseminating belief in separation by creating an “us” vs. “them” mentality; and suggesting that a nation can be divided evenly along the lines of “the good vs. the bad” and the “right vs. the left” and the “patriotic vs. the liberals.”

Now, the campaigning provides daily examples on television of the pointers offered in the past, pointers which addressed the fact that “dual-minded persons are unstable in all ways.”

Thanks for writing. Please enter the silence of contemplation.

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