Wednesday, October 01, 2008


An Advaita Vedanta philosophy site, focusing on Realization, enlightenment, nisarga yoga, non-duality / nonduality, your original nature, dwelling as your natural state, and the teachings of Maharaj.

FROM SITE VISITOR SIM: What’s the difference in an atheist and the Realized?

F.: An atheist understands that there is no creation and no destruction and thus no creator and no destroyer. The Realized understand the functioning of the totality (which includes an understanding that nothing can be created or destroyed).

FROM SITE VISITOR THOMAS: A follow-up please if I may. I have been told I need to undergo a psychic change and move away from the material and into the spiritual. The a-z series seems to say something else, but I’m not sure what. Will you give more detail about that--keeping in mind that I’m very new at this. thank you again. Thomas

F.: Hello again, Thomas. Your follow-up will be addressed, but then the suggestion will be to go into the silence and contemplate what has been shared so far without asking any further questions for now. Too, the A-Z series provided something fairly simple for you to use until “The User” disappears. Your present query will require some pointers that are “less basic.”

The first pointer is this, and if you understand this, then you’ll know that a psychic change does not restore a person to sanity: you suggested “keeping in mind.” There is no mind here in which anything can be kept. On the “path” to Full Realization, the mind begins dissolving at the second of seven steps.

By the fourth step, the mind ends and witnessing begins. In the child stage, you had a brain and consciousness was manifested, but you had no mind. That came later. When you reverse back to the source, eliminating body and mind and personality, that same stage happens again.

Insane persons can be termed “insane” when they cannot differentiate between true and false. Sanity is being able to see lies as lies and eventually knowing truth as truth. At some point, even the belief in "a knower" ends, so knowing ends as well. All learned ignorance disappears and what could be called “the child ignorance stage” is revisited.

"Child ignorance" points to a condition during the “coming in” stage when (a) the consciousness has manifested and (b) the brain is functioning but (c) no mind has yet developed because (d) the child has not yet been exposed to the programming, conditioning, acculturation, and domestication which the child will soon be exposed to.

Furthermore, those who talk of your need of a “psychic change” will also speak of "moving away from the material and into the spiritual." As lofty as that sounds, it suggests dualism.

In the quiet, find out why that is dualistic but “I AM THAT; I AM” is not. Then, there will be no rush to shift away from the material. Phenomenal happenings will happen and will merely be witnessed until they no longer happen. Will the taking of yourself to be a material body end? Of course, but the THAT Which Is beyond the phenomenal is not "spiritual." Why?

The "I AM THAT; I AM" is not an "either-or" scenario. It is a "neither this nor that" condition. The THAT-ness has nothing to do with "being spiritual." There is no one to be spiritual or not. Abiding as Your natural state (both "now" and "later"), there is no mind, no self, no Self, no Infinite Self, and no Supreme Self.

In the quiet, consider that those same people who talk their nonsense about bogus dual realms and of a bogus psychic change do make sense when suggesting that you tap into what they call “the inner resource” (a.k.a., “the inner guru,” to use an Eastern term).

[To link that to Sim’s question above, understand that there is no god—no “outer resource” that is available to serve you, and there is no need for such. Only the programmed “mind” will believe otherwise. Why are supposed "needs" generated by the fictional "mind" and why do You have no needs?

Because for You—the consciousness—all of the provisions “necessary” for traversing the relative existence already exist, just as is the case with the consciousness manifested in a space called a deer or a space called a fish or a space called a bird.]

Additionally, as you move farther along the “path,” you will note a “movement” beyond the limited, physical five-sense existence. You will begin to move through the relative existence via the influence of the sixth sense.

At that point, You will abide as your original nature and function for the remainder of the manifestation as Your nisarga (natural) state. Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)

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