From a site visitor: “You’ve mentioned that most of your day is passed in silence. Why do the realized seek the silence? Why did you stop offering satsanga?”
F.: First, satsanga has not stopped. It has only taken a different form that allows the silence to happen for the majority of the day, the sound of the tapping on a keyboard for 15-minutes per morning notwithstanding. Some Realized enter total silence...some Realized continue to welcome seekers into the presence. Whatever. Next, the silence was not sought. After Realization, nothing is sought. The silence just happened. Why do some stop the “face-to-face” satsanga and why do some enter the silence? That should be simple to understand:
WHO would the Realized talk to? Once sanity is restored—once being in touch with Reality happens—the Realized no longer are attracted to the insanity and chaos that marks the existence of persons prior to Realization. Nor is the re-purified consciousness inspired, as persons are, to demand an audience, to talk merely to talk, to escape their lack of tolerance for the quiet, or to constantly seek an audience. Ego-states have agendas, and personas use ideas and beliefs and concepts to forward the agendas of those mirages and to sustain their false identities. If persons run short of topics, they will even complain about it being too hot, too cold, too dry, or too wet. The chatter of a thousand monkeys that plagues the “mind” of all persons cannot be tolerated, so persons use external talk to try to drown out the internal chatter. Persons will rise and turn on a television but not watch it, merely using it to provide background noise to drown out the rattlings of their "minds." With no internal chatter, what need for the Realized to talk, talk, talk or to hear the noise coming from persons? Since it happens that the Realized are no longer seekers of pandemonium, they are automatically moved away from about 95% of the population, just as the deer moves away from the noise of chaotic humans when they overrun the woods. Ego-states, even in adults, operate with their childish "look-at-me-mama" needs. The Realized have no needs at all.
The Realized were, at some point, just as asleep as the general population of the planet. They spoke with the insane; they debated with the insane; they fought with the insane; they pontificated with the insane; they, too, were insane. Post-Realization, the re-purified consciousness becomes aware of how useless that entire process was. Why would the Realized want to go back to that? The pure consciousness cannot. There is no choice being made. It has just happened. In the Child Ignorance stage when there were no concepts (and thus no agendas to promote or images to sustain) noise was anathema. The child hated loud noises and disturbances. Only after the consciousness was contaminated did the loud, the noisy, and the disturbing become sought out rather than avoided.
So that leaves about 5% at the most who are seeking truth (or who have found the lies and thereby uncovered the truth). But some 6.2 billion are closed to the truth, clinging to their false beliefs, loving their dogma, acknowledging proudly their “affiliations” and being trapped in religious or spiritual personas that prevent their completion of the “journey” to the Full Understanding. Why would anyone continue to seek the truth if he believes he has found it? Those personas cannot hear because they have been so fooled by their “leaders” that they can stand in the morning sun but believe their leaders when they tell them that it is high noon. Why would the Realized waste the breath that flows through the space by trying to talk to the deaf? So the Realized live out the manifestation in an AS IF fashion on a planet with 6.2 billion persons who live in the fashion of fools...in the fashion of those who do not know but are fully convinced that they do. What could the Realized possibly talk about with such personas? Would the Realized ever walk into the Arizona desert at midday and talk to a mirage? Such insanity becomes impossible, post-Realization. Now, will the consciousness speak to one who approaches the Realized while thinking he is a mirage that is real? Sometimes, if the consciousness detects that the one who is accepting an image as a false identity might be prepared to escape the misery of such foolishness.
Next, consider the case where the Realized cross the path of the Realized. Why would the Realized want to talk to the Realized? To try to impress by sharing how much is understood? Impossible. Advaita chat rooms are inundated with persons sharing all of their Advaita knowledge—which is simply their most-recently learned ignorance—to impress other Advaitans with what they take to be a mastery of a wealth of information. All they are revealing is how far removed they are from Realization. The consciousness cannot impress the consciousness. All knowledge dissolves with Realization.
So that only leaves (as a potential audience for which the consciousness would break the silence) those seekers who have not Realized but who know that they have not Realized but who seek to Realize. Even then, though, factor in the odds against seekers ever crossing the path of the Realized. Are you seeing how very small the odds are for the Realized to be in a position to speak? Instead, they live in the style of the animals mentioned in yesterday’s post, living in an AS IF-fashion throughout the day, minding their own business, witnessing the happenings without attachment to the happenings, and taking a few moments to reply if the path is crossed with a seeker who truly wants to get in touch with Reality.
Finally, the Realized can listen to persons for a few minutes or seconds and know if they are wet beyond awakening or if they are at the wet charcoal, dry charcoal, or gunpowder stage. That eliminates all who are “wet beyond awakening” as candidates that could trigger the abandonment of silence. With the odds outlined above, how could the Realized not be silent for the majority of any particular day? How could the Realized not refuse to enter into dialogues with those who want to debate rather than to understand…who want to impress with all their knowledge rather than forfeit it to find the truth? This week, two visitors have been informed that no further communication will be entered into with them since they have a personal (persona) desire to share all that they think they know rather than to seek the understanding that they do not have. The Realized, on the other hand, seek out no one to speak to. If a seeker comes, the consciousness may speak if it detects the presence of one who is ready or who is becoming ready. The consciousness may speak via a forum such as this site, and it is never known if any reader ever reads a posting or not unless some e-mail is received. Consciousness speaks without any perceived “need” to be heard. Conversely, someday this consciousness will not speak. In either case, so what? Again, no one by which the silence might be broken is being sought, so the breaking of the silence seldom happens. Too, the truth cannot be spoken, so why speak? Notice the many persons you meet in a day who talk, talk, talk, believing they are expressing the truth. Most personas even believe that they are expressing the truth profoundly and in a way that it has never been expressed before. They repeat the concepts they have heard or read from other persons, but they never find what they know intuitively but have forgotten as a result of enculturation.
Thus, for all those reasons, the case among the Realized (that is, with the re-purified consciousness) is that the silence is never sought but usually happens automatically and spontaneously, just as everything else just happens automatically and spontaneously for the Realized. Please enter the silence of contemplation.
F.: First, satsanga has not stopped. It has only taken a different form that allows the silence to happen for the majority of the day, the sound of the tapping on a keyboard for 15-minutes per morning notwithstanding. Some Realized enter total silence...some Realized continue to welcome seekers into the presence. Whatever. Next, the silence was not sought. After Realization, nothing is sought. The silence just happened. Why do some stop the “face-to-face” satsanga and why do some enter the silence? That should be simple to understand:
WHO would the Realized talk to? Once sanity is restored—once being in touch with Reality happens—the Realized no longer are attracted to the insanity and chaos that marks the existence of persons prior to Realization. Nor is the re-purified consciousness inspired, as persons are, to demand an audience, to talk merely to talk, to escape their lack of tolerance for the quiet, or to constantly seek an audience. Ego-states have agendas, and personas use ideas and beliefs and concepts to forward the agendas of those mirages and to sustain their false identities. If persons run short of topics, they will even complain about it being too hot, too cold, too dry, or too wet. The chatter of a thousand monkeys that plagues the “mind” of all persons cannot be tolerated, so persons use external talk to try to drown out the internal chatter. Persons will rise and turn on a television but not watch it, merely using it to provide background noise to drown out the rattlings of their "minds." With no internal chatter, what need for the Realized to talk, talk, talk or to hear the noise coming from persons? Since it happens that the Realized are no longer seekers of pandemonium, they are automatically moved away from about 95% of the population, just as the deer moves away from the noise of chaotic humans when they overrun the woods. Ego-states, even in adults, operate with their childish "look-at-me-mama" needs. The Realized have no needs at all.
The Realized were, at some point, just as asleep as the general population of the planet. They spoke with the insane; they debated with the insane; they fought with the insane; they pontificated with the insane; they, too, were insane. Post-Realization, the re-purified consciousness becomes aware of how useless that entire process was. Why would the Realized want to go back to that? The pure consciousness cannot. There is no choice being made. It has just happened. In the Child Ignorance stage when there were no concepts (and thus no agendas to promote or images to sustain) noise was anathema. The child hated loud noises and disturbances. Only after the consciousness was contaminated did the loud, the noisy, and the disturbing become sought out rather than avoided.
So that leaves about 5% at the most who are seeking truth (or who have found the lies and thereby uncovered the truth). But some 6.2 billion are closed to the truth, clinging to their false beliefs, loving their dogma, acknowledging proudly their “affiliations” and being trapped in religious or spiritual personas that prevent their completion of the “journey” to the Full Understanding. Why would anyone continue to seek the truth if he believes he has found it? Those personas cannot hear because they have been so fooled by their “leaders” that they can stand in the morning sun but believe their leaders when they tell them that it is high noon. Why would the Realized waste the breath that flows through the space by trying to talk to the deaf? So the Realized live out the manifestation in an AS IF fashion on a planet with 6.2 billion persons who live in the fashion of fools...in the fashion of those who do not know but are fully convinced that they do. What could the Realized possibly talk about with such personas? Would the Realized ever walk into the Arizona desert at midday and talk to a mirage? Such insanity becomes impossible, post-Realization. Now, will the consciousness speak to one who approaches the Realized while thinking he is a mirage that is real? Sometimes, if the consciousness detects that the one who is accepting an image as a false identity might be prepared to escape the misery of such foolishness.
Next, consider the case where the Realized cross the path of the Realized. Why would the Realized want to talk to the Realized? To try to impress by sharing how much is understood? Impossible. Advaita chat rooms are inundated with persons sharing all of their Advaita knowledge—which is simply their most-recently learned ignorance—to impress other Advaitans with what they take to be a mastery of a wealth of information. All they are revealing is how far removed they are from Realization. The consciousness cannot impress the consciousness. All knowledge dissolves with Realization.
So that only leaves (as a potential audience for which the consciousness would break the silence) those seekers who have not Realized but who know that they have not Realized but who seek to Realize. Even then, though, factor in the odds against seekers ever crossing the path of the Realized. Are you seeing how very small the odds are for the Realized to be in a position to speak? Instead, they live in the style of the animals mentioned in yesterday’s post, living in an AS IF-fashion throughout the day, minding their own business, witnessing the happenings without attachment to the happenings, and taking a few moments to reply if the path is crossed with a seeker who truly wants to get in touch with Reality.
Finally, the Realized can listen to persons for a few minutes or seconds and know if they are wet beyond awakening or if they are at the wet charcoal, dry charcoal, or gunpowder stage. That eliminates all who are “wet beyond awakening” as candidates that could trigger the abandonment of silence. With the odds outlined above, how could the Realized not be silent for the majority of any particular day? How could the Realized not refuse to enter into dialogues with those who want to debate rather than to understand…who want to impress with all their knowledge rather than forfeit it to find the truth? This week, two visitors have been informed that no further communication will be entered into with them since they have a personal (persona) desire to share all that they think they know rather than to seek the understanding that they do not have. The Realized, on the other hand, seek out no one to speak to. If a seeker comes, the consciousness may speak if it detects the presence of one who is ready or who is becoming ready. The consciousness may speak via a forum such as this site, and it is never known if any reader ever reads a posting or not unless some e-mail is received. Consciousness speaks without any perceived “need” to be heard. Conversely, someday this consciousness will not speak. In either case, so what? Again, no one by which the silence might be broken is being sought, so the breaking of the silence seldom happens. Too, the truth cannot be spoken, so why speak? Notice the many persons you meet in a day who talk, talk, talk, believing they are expressing the truth. Most personas even believe that they are expressing the truth profoundly and in a way that it has never been expressed before. They repeat the concepts they have heard or read from other persons, but they never find what they know intuitively but have forgotten as a result of enculturation.
Thus, for all those reasons, the case among the Realized (that is, with the re-purified consciousness) is that the silence is never sought but usually happens automatically and spontaneously, just as everything else just happens automatically and spontaneously for the Realized. Please enter the silence of contemplation.
