From a site visitor: “OK--I ‘confess’--I’m ignoring one of your points since there is something I want, desire--I want to be able to deal with controlling people coming at me from the parent role like you dealt with the guy who did that to you. The key is??????
F.: This is all so very simple, no matter the level of the discussion (whether at “step one” of the “journey” or at “step seven” on the “path”). Realize that there is no “guy” to come at me and no “me” to deal with any mirage called a “guy.”
There is a warped speck of consciousness that is temporarily manifested in a body, that is driven by a fictional “mind,” that is also driven by one or more personalities and subconscious personas, and that also just happens to own a keyboard. Realize that and the scenario you described (of trying to deal with "people coming at you") will have to end, n’est-ce-pas? No one to deal with, and nothing to deal with. Finis.
From another site visitor: “Dearest Floyd, Hey, ‘you’ are back! What fun, what frustration you can take! ‘Seriously’ though, the speckness that is speaking is freeing this one from innumerable fears. These last posts discussing the ‘sweet void’ only offer freedom. I finally get the Sky metaphors so often discussed and can let the metaphors go. Ginny
F.: The freedom and independence can really be enjoyed when the light is cast upon those fears and they are seen as ropes, huh? Peace and Light.
Now, to continue with the discussion of the Child/Parent ego-states. Exactly what is the origin of those ego-states? As in all such cases, programming and conditioning and domestication and enculturation are at the root. Then, modeling plays a part, which is also a form of programming and conditioning.
Thus, “The Parent” results from internalizing all of those “recordings” that were being played by persons assuming a parenting role during a child’s early years. Those tapes are played for children, along with a command that the children not question the content of the tapes. They are forced to “have faith” in any sayings or teachings (and all else imposed upon the child) by any “authority figure.”
The content of those tapes, therefore, is taken to be “truth” and will be passed on, even if evidence to the contrary arises and it becomes known that the content is false. (For example, I asked a Methodist minister who knew that Christ was teaching the Advaita message, "So why don't you go into your pulpit next Sunday and tell them the truth?" His reply: "Because it would be my last sermon. They'd walk out and I'd lose my job.") Warped specks playing influential roles warp the other specks under their influence. The continuation of ignorance and foolishness and nonsense becomes assured.
But another recording is being made at the same time that “The Parent” tape is being heard. “The Child” is making a recording of its own, and on each track of that tape is an imprint of the effects of an emotional trauma, a lie, a distortion, a hurt, a slight, a pain, an excruciating pain, ad infinitum, as the child experiences the frustrations of domestication.
Those tapes recorded during childhood will be set up with a sound-activation switch and an auto-recognition switch. Whenever anything sounds like or looks like one of those early emotional hurts, slights, pains, or excruciating pains, then those "Child" tapes will activate, an adult-aged person will revert to the child state, and she/he will experience the exact same emotions that were originally felt as a child. Then, that adult-aged person will react from a place of emotional intoxication and will behave in a childish, immature fashion.
Have you seen adult-aged persons behaving like five-year-olds? If one looks objectively at the childhood domestication process, it will be seen how frustrating the process is. The residue of that frustration, when triggered, will mar the relative existence of persons, no matter their age. The replaying of those tapes will drive adult-aged persons to experience and re-experience time and again the same childish emotions of their earliest years and to then act accordingly.
SELF-Actualization is one means by which the effects of the residue can be diluted, but in many cases, far more is required. As noted on many occasions on this site, the Advaita Teachings are not a cure-all. Some 1-5% of most populations are clinically insane. 99% suffer personality disorders, and many of those disorders manifest at a level of severity that calls for professional treatment. Advaita cannot provide such treatment for the most severe cases.
Thus, two other visitors were angered by the responses to their e-mails that arrived during the retreat this past week. Both wrote e-mails with content that revealed they have disorders and dependencies that need to be treated professionally before they can ever hope to comprehend these Teachings fully.
They must see that “sects” can take on many forms and can be cloaked in many disguises. Often, some major de-programming is required to be free of the program, the programmers, and the programming that take hostage the mentally sick and emotionally sick people who come their way.
Too, both individuals, proud that they have been freed of certain dependencies, are now trapped in an entirely new set of dependencies (such as dependencies on groups or on individual persons or on conceptualized dieties or on “new and improved” personas that are being reinforced by their new dependencies).
The words of both writers reveal that they have “Child”-type dependencies, needing recognition and approval. Both also have “The Parent”-type dependencies that inspire membership in organizations that allow them to “parent” others. Both want to play the role of “The Helper” and “The Saver of Lives” and thereby receive the “love” that they desire but have never received.
Both were sent level-appropriate responses to that effect, and both wrote back from “The Parent” role to explain how wrong the response was—that it must have come from impure consciousness since it did not address their queries at the “Step Seven level” as they had anticipated; that the reply addressed relative issues and was not rooted solely in the perspective of the Noumenon; etc. (Some want to run before they have an ability to walk. So it is.)
For now, the considerations are: (1) Have you been freed of certain dependencies? (2) If so, what are your current, substitute dependencies? (3) Are you finding examples where “The Parent” is manifesting in your thoughts, words, or deeds? (4) Are you finding examples of “The Child” showing up in thought, word, or deed? Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
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AN OVERVIEW
F.: This is all so very simple, no matter the level of the discussion (whether at “step one” of the “journey” or at “step seven” on the “path”). Realize that there is no “guy” to come at me and no “me” to deal with any mirage called a “guy.”
There is a warped speck of consciousness that is temporarily manifested in a body, that is driven by a fictional “mind,” that is also driven by one or more personalities and subconscious personas, and that also just happens to own a keyboard. Realize that and the scenario you described (of trying to deal with "people coming at you") will have to end, n’est-ce-pas? No one to deal with, and nothing to deal with. Finis.
From another site visitor: “Dearest Floyd, Hey, ‘you’ are back! What fun, what frustration you can take! ‘Seriously’ though, the speckness that is speaking is freeing this one from innumerable fears. These last posts discussing the ‘sweet void’ only offer freedom. I finally get the Sky metaphors so often discussed and can let the metaphors go. Ginny
F.: The freedom and independence can really be enjoyed when the light is cast upon those fears and they are seen as ropes, huh? Peace and Light.
Now, to continue with the discussion of the Child/Parent ego-states. Exactly what is the origin of those ego-states? As in all such cases, programming and conditioning and domestication and enculturation are at the root. Then, modeling plays a part, which is also a form of programming and conditioning.
Thus, “The Parent” results from internalizing all of those “recordings” that were being played by persons assuming a parenting role during a child’s early years. Those tapes are played for children, along with a command that the children not question the content of the tapes. They are forced to “have faith” in any sayings or teachings (and all else imposed upon the child) by any “authority figure.”
The content of those tapes, therefore, is taken to be “truth” and will be passed on, even if evidence to the contrary arises and it becomes known that the content is false. (For example, I asked a Methodist minister who knew that Christ was teaching the Advaita message, "So why don't you go into your pulpit next Sunday and tell them the truth?" His reply: "Because it would be my last sermon. They'd walk out and I'd lose my job.") Warped specks playing influential roles warp the other specks under their influence. The continuation of ignorance and foolishness and nonsense becomes assured.
But another recording is being made at the same time that “The Parent” tape is being heard. “The Child” is making a recording of its own, and on each track of that tape is an imprint of the effects of an emotional trauma, a lie, a distortion, a hurt, a slight, a pain, an excruciating pain, ad infinitum, as the child experiences the frustrations of domestication.
Those tapes recorded during childhood will be set up with a sound-activation switch and an auto-recognition switch. Whenever anything sounds like or looks like one of those early emotional hurts, slights, pains, or excruciating pains, then those "Child" tapes will activate, an adult-aged person will revert to the child state, and she/he will experience the exact same emotions that were originally felt as a child. Then, that adult-aged person will react from a place of emotional intoxication and will behave in a childish, immature fashion.
Have you seen adult-aged persons behaving like five-year-olds? If one looks objectively at the childhood domestication process, it will be seen how frustrating the process is. The residue of that frustration, when triggered, will mar the relative existence of persons, no matter their age. The replaying of those tapes will drive adult-aged persons to experience and re-experience time and again the same childish emotions of their earliest years and to then act accordingly.
SELF-Actualization is one means by which the effects of the residue can be diluted, but in many cases, far more is required. As noted on many occasions on this site, the Advaita Teachings are not a cure-all. Some 1-5% of most populations are clinically insane. 99% suffer personality disorders, and many of those disorders manifest at a level of severity that calls for professional treatment. Advaita cannot provide such treatment for the most severe cases.
Thus, two other visitors were angered by the responses to their e-mails that arrived during the retreat this past week. Both wrote e-mails with content that revealed they have disorders and dependencies that need to be treated professionally before they can ever hope to comprehend these Teachings fully.
They must see that “sects” can take on many forms and can be cloaked in many disguises. Often, some major de-programming is required to be free of the program, the programmers, and the programming that take hostage the mentally sick and emotionally sick people who come their way.
Too, both individuals, proud that they have been freed of certain dependencies, are now trapped in an entirely new set of dependencies (such as dependencies on groups or on individual persons or on conceptualized dieties or on “new and improved” personas that are being reinforced by their new dependencies).
The words of both writers reveal that they have “Child”-type dependencies, needing recognition and approval. Both also have “The Parent”-type dependencies that inspire membership in organizations that allow them to “parent” others. Both want to play the role of “The Helper” and “The Saver of Lives” and thereby receive the “love” that they desire but have never received.
Both were sent level-appropriate responses to that effect, and both wrote back from “The Parent” role to explain how wrong the response was—that it must have come from impure consciousness since it did not address their queries at the “Step Seven level” as they had anticipated; that the reply addressed relative issues and was not rooted solely in the perspective of the Noumenon; etc. (Some want to run before they have an ability to walk. So it is.)
For now, the considerations are: (1) Have you been freed of certain dependencies? (2) If so, what are your current, substitute dependencies? (3) Are you finding examples where “The Parent” is manifesting in your thoughts, words, or deeds? (4) Are you finding examples of “The Child” showing up in thought, word, or deed? Please enter the silence of contemplation. (To be continued)
IN STOCK AND READY TO SHIP: The latest release, the third book in the “Advanced Seekers Trilogy,” FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS ($16.99+ S&H). To order, go to http://floydhenderson.com/order.htm , complete all of the information, and in the “Special Message” box, type in FROM THE ABSOLUTE TO THE NOTHINGNESS.
AN OVERVIEW
The order in which the books are to be read and how to get them at a package rate:
Consider the Meditation CD, the Meditation Guides, Bullshit, and Spiritual Sobriety to be a “Beginner’s Package,” providing a foundation from which persons can begin to consider realities that are beyond the beliefs which they accept unquestioningly as a result of their enculturation. Used as a group, the works encourage inquiry (which is at the core of the Advaita approach) where questioning has not occurred before. [See MAKE YOUR OWN PACKAGE below.]
Consider Peace of Mind, Liberation, What Happens When I Die? and The Essence of the Teachings to be a “Mid-Level Seekers” Package, each guiding seekers beyond the false identification with body and mind and personality and explaining the basic terminology that must be understood before moving to the advanced teachings. [See MAKE YOUR OWN PACKAGE below.]
Consider From the I to the Absolute, Consciousness/Awareness, and From the Absolute to the Nothingness to be an “Advanced Seekers” Package. From the I to the Absolute can serve as a guide for earnest and capable seekers, putting the teachings into an orderly context that reveals the exact steps that must be taken in an exact order to move through all of the degrees of separation from belief in the false “I” to Realization. Consciousness/Awareness offers the next level of understanding, explaining that which is beyond the beingness and how happiness can manifest each day via the understanding. Finally, From the Absolute to the Nothingness will allow earnest and capable seekers to understand the state that is even prior to beingness and non-beingness, even prior to the Absolute. The seeker who understands the content of this book will realize how it is that—from a state of non-existence or nothingness—everything in this universe (and all universes) came to be. [See MAKE YOUR OWN PACKAGE below.]
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