Saturday, December 19, 2020

The Wisdom of Listening for BOTH Non-Dual AND Duality-Based Messages: FROM JESUS TO SHAKESPEARE

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The Wisdom of Listening for BOTH Non-Dual AND Duality-Based Messages: FROM JESUS TO SHAKESPEARE

The quotations and pointers by Maharaj being drawn from the book QUOTATIONS AND POINTERS dealing with NON-DUALITY, ADVAITA, NISARGA YOGA and more are being arranged by category and subject matter. The quotes offered today will deal with:

The quotations and pointers from Maharaj offered are being arranged by category and subject matter. The quotes offered today will deal with:  

NO "BIRTH" and NO "DEATH" and CONSCIOUSNESS

NO "BIRTH" 

"This consciousness is dead to me; it is gone. I have transcended that. So whatever is, is that other consciousness, that one which is without concepts."

The "other consciousness"? 

Yes, there is (A) the manifested consciousness which soon becomes "blocked" or "corrupted" via programming, conditioning, domestication, acculturation, brainwashing and indoctrination. 

The "other consciousness"? (B) The pure, universal consciousness which spoke through Maharaj. See next quote for, "What remains is talking to you now."]

The principle that is conceptual (and full of qualities which I transcended) was like a very big ocean. Now it is mostly dried up; just the dregs remain. Only a very little bit is still there - only a few particles. What is pervading and prevailing is without concept or quality. What remains is talking to you now. Where is the question of birth or death for that remaining principle?"

"All knowledge is like the son of a barren woman. Presently there are only beingness and the functioning. The individuality and personality are thrown overboard. There is no personality, so there is no question of birth, life, or death. What remains is only the consciousness without name or form. There is no individuality at all. The form needs a name, but when both are not there, then the consciousness [the conscious-energy] remains only so long as the body is there, but without any individuality. The body is of as much use now as it was prior to the birth and after the death. How do you know me? You know me only on the acquisition of body form, name and form. Do you really see me as I Am? I doubt it." 

"When the birth is disproved, the great noble meaning of spirituality and the meaning of this world—everything—is disproved.” 

"If you knew of the bondage, you would refuse the birth. But because the 'I Amness' is absent, you are trapped. Because the 'I Amness' is a quality of the body, later on you come to know you are and that you are trapped. But once You know, you are liberated." 

"When you get this knowledge [of the falsity of the birth and all that is inaccurately perceived in the realm of the relative], you will realize that knowledge of this world and consciousness are not even worth your spit. You can spit it out; it will be unworthy." 

"The birth, the parents, all this is illusion. Taking the body as oneself is the accident. If you don't cling to the body as your identity, everything is all right."

"Consciousness is time flowing continuously. But I, the Absolute, will not have its company eternally because consciousness is time-bound. When this beingness goes, the Absolute will not know 'I Am'. Appearance and disappearance, birth and death, these are the qualities of beingness; they are not your qualities." 

NO "DEATH" 

"Death is also a hearsay. Have you experienced death? There is only impersonal consciousness. In this realm of consciousness all that is going on is dynamic playfulness, a process of functioning. There is no differentiation in this process as to a person, an entity, a community, a creed, a religion. In the flash of your consciousness, all this play is going on. The play will come to an end." 

"What is birth and death but the beginning and the ending of a stream of events in consciousness?" 

[When an ordinary man dies] "according to his belief, it happens. As life before death is but imagination, so is life after. The dream continues. The gnani does not die because he was never born." 

"When somebody 'dies', nothing happens. Something becomes nothing. Nothing was, nothing remains." 

"You may die a hundred deaths without a break in the mental turmoil. Or you may keep your body and die only in the mind. The death of the mind is the birth of wisdom." 

"I am dead already. Physical death will make no difference in My case. I am timeless being. I am free of desire or fear, because I do not remember the past or imagine the future. Where there are no names and shapes, how can there be desires and fear? With desirelessness comes timelessness." 

"I am safe, because 'what is not' cannot touch 'what is'. You feel unsafe because you imagine danger. Of course, your body as such is complex and vulnerable and needs protection. But not you. Once you realize your own unassailable being, you will be at peace." 

"Death is natural . . . the manner of dying is man-made. Separateness causes fear and aggression, which again cause violence. Do away with man-made separations and all this horror of people killing each other will surely end. But in reality there is no killing and no dying. The real does not die; the unreal never lived. When you know that the world is one, that humanity is one, you will act accordingly. But first of all you must attend to the way you feel, think and live. Unless there is order in yourself, there can be no order in the world." 

"Among the millions of people who have 'come' and 'gone', where am I counted among them? There is no individuality connected with any of those forms, but I have always been, and I am, the total functioning." 

"If you have properly understood, what will be your position at the moment of so-called 'death'? It will be watching what is happening. This consciousness gradually loses everything, and ultimately consciousness is no longer conscious of itself." 

"I am not concerned with any state which is temporary. This consciousness state is not of my choosing. The sooner it goes, the better. Once it is known what is temporary and what one's original state is, no further knowledge is needed." 

Questioner: "Imagine you are ill - high fever, aches, shivers. The doctor tells you the condition is serious . . . there are only a few days to live. What would be your first reaction?" 

Maharaj: "No reaction. As it is natural for the incense stick to burn out, so it is natural for the body to die. Really, it is a matter of very little importance. What matters is that I am neither the body nor the mind. I am." 

"My present state is such that this consciousness and all this physical suffering are unbearable. I am prepared to dispose of it right now; this is the state of affairs; nevertheless, people come here and these talks emanate out of the consciousness. I am addressing you as consciousness . . . I am not concerned with your bodily affairs." 

[Just prior to taking mahasamadhi when the cancer was taking its toll] "Without me the functioning cannot take place. I am the total functioning every moment, millions of years ago or now. In spite of my clearly understanding the foregoing, the bodily suffering has to be undergone because of the consciousness. The name of the consciousness is suffering itself. The life of suffering is nearly over." 

To be continued.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION


If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you." 

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:


"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 


"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II 

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.] 

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