The Wisdom of Listening for BOTH Non-Dual AND Duality-Based Messages: FROM JESUS TO SHAKESPEARE

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The Wisdom of Listening for BOTH Non-Dual AND Duality-Based Messages: FROM JESUS TO SHAKESPEARE

The quotations and pointers by Maharaj being drawn from the book QUOTATIONS AND POINTERS dealing with NON-DUALITY, ADVAITA, NISARGA YOGA and more are being arranged by category and subject matter. The quotes offered today will deal with:  

"THE TWO TYPES OF WITNESSING"  

"There are two witnessing stages." 

(The pointer was offered earlier that the two types of witnessing are "subject-object witnessing" and "Pure Witnessing." Many times, Maharaj simply used the term "witness" to refer to "Pure Witnessing"; at other times, he used "witness" to refer to the subject-object witness. 

Once a seeker can differentiate "the witness" from "Pure Witnessing," then it becomes clear in each case which of the two types Maharaj is referencing in any given instance. In a few of the quotations below, for the sake of clarification until all seekers understand his actual reference, inserts [ ] will be used to illustrate the difference.) 

"For [s-o] witnessing (that is, Subject-Object Witnessing), there must be something else to witness. We are still in duality!" 

"Nobody can say: ‘I am the witness'. The ‘I am' is always witnessed. The state of detached awareness is the witness-consciousness . . . ." 

"The 'I am' looks at things, the witness sees through them. It sees them as they are -- unreal and transient. To say 'not me, not mine' is the task of the witness." 

"In other words, the difference between the person and the [Pure] Witness[ing] is as between not knowing [oneself] and knowing oneself." 

"There is no effort in witnessing. You understand that you are the witness only and the understanding acts. You need nothing more, just remember that you are the witness only." 

[Pure] "Witnessing is primarily awareness of consciousness and its movements." 

"It is you that need my body to talk to you. I am not my body, nor do I need it. I am the Witness[ing] only. I have no shape of my own. You are so accustomed to think of yourselves as bodies having consciousness that you just cannot imagine consciousness as having bodies. 

"Once you realise that bodily existence is but a state of mind, a movement in consciousness, that the ocean of consciousness is infinite and eternal, and that, when in touch with consciousness, you are the [Pure] Witness[ing] only, you will be able to withdraw beyond consciousness altogether." 

"The Guru is basically without desire. He sees what happens, but feels no urge to interfere. He makes no choices, takes no decisions. As Pure Witness[ing], 'he' watches what is going on and remains unaffected."  

"Man becomes what he believes himself to be. Abandon all ideas about yourself and you will find yourself to be the pure witness, beyond all that can happen to the body or the mind." 

"You live, you feel, you think. By giving attention to your living, feeling and thinking, you free yourself from them and go beyond them. Your personality dissolves and only the witness remains." 

"The witness" [that is, "Pure Witnessing, a.k.a., "The True Self"] "is not a person. The person comes into being when there is a basis for it, an organism, a body. In it the absolute is reflected as awareness." 

Q: "What about the witness? Is it real or unreal?" 

M: "It is both. The last remnant of illusion, the first touch of the real. To say: I am only the witness is both false and true: false because of the 'I am', true because of the witness. It is better to say: 'there is witnessing'. The moment you say: 'I am', the entire universe comes into being along with its 'creator'." 

Q: "Has the witness name and form, or is it beyond these?" 

M: "The witness is merely a point in awareness. It has no name and form." 

[That pointer allows for a key understanding that is missed by most seekers and by those who only think that they are "realized": The pointer "The witness is merely a point in awareness" means that "the Pure Witnessing" is merely a point in awareness. 

And the salient fact which that pointer makes clear is that the "Pure Witnessing" is all that the "True Self" or the "Real Self" is; therefore, because there is no aware-of-ness in the post-manifestation state of awareness, then there can be no post-manifestation self-ness and there can be no post-manifestation "Self-ness," no "Self," no "True Self," no "Real Self," no being, no "Being," no non-being, no "non-Being," and no identity or "Identity" of any kind, either.] 

"The personality gives place to the witness; then, the witness goes and pure awareness remains." 

"The nature of the self is pure awareness, pure witnessing, unaffected by the presence or absence of knowledge or liking." 

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you." 

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and 

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II 

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.] 

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