MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE and THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE
and
THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

[Now, to continue with the "tools" discussion]

Tools Which Can Be Used To End Attachment To False Beliefs, Part "C" 

To review: 

As certain "tools" are shared which can be employed by that rare seeker that is determined to no longer cling to any false beliefs, "The 180-Degree Method" has been explained. The last tool to be discussed involves the "Obliteration of the Present Thought-Based Mode of Talking, Allowing One to Become Skilled at Using Only The Vocabulary of Restored Sanity / Full Realization." 

Again, the full discussion of this "tool" is offered in the book GOING CRAZY, GOING SANE, so the explanation here shall be limited to this more concise version explaining the use of this tool: 

There is "A Vocabulary of Realization." The irony is that, once realized, the use of any vocabulary is significantly limited.

Regarding the quite different words used by one that is realized as opposed to those used by the masses, Maharaj said to one seeker, “We are not speaking the same language. Yours is a make-believe talk . . . . ” 

He informed another, “You speak as a person, limited in time and space, reduced to the contents of a body and a mind.” 

An understanding of the thought-word-deed continuum is related to this topic as well: 

Because thoughts (i.e., the internal noise generated by the false beliefs that make up the content of the fiction-filled "mind") control words and because words—in turn—control deeds, then the words used during the relative existence exert tremendous influence over the behavior of non-realized persons. 

All deeds are directly preceded by words, and all words are preceded by thoughts. With their understanding of the corrupted state of "the mind," is it any wonder that Maharaj and other sages have long cautioned against the careless use of language and endorsed the silence instead? 

Yet do not conclude that 50% of all actions result from thoughts and 50% from words. Nonsensical talk could not happen were it not for the nonsensical beliefs that are stored in “the mind” which are constantly cycled and recycled among the non-realized as their ever-in-motion consciousness generates thought after thought after thought. 

Consider now the pointer behind the title of the book, THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS “PEACE OF MIND” (There is Only Peace If You’re Out of Your Mind). The point provided via that title should be clear by now. 

Additionally, several pointers which are relevant to this discussion are also offered in GOING CRAZY, GOING SANE, beginning with this: "There is no need to cut off the tongue and lips and discard them in order to put an end to the nonsense being verbalized millions of times per day across the planet. 

The requirement is to cut out the nonsensical thinking by discarding the contents of 'the mind'." When nonsense, a.k.a., "beliefs," are eliminated at the point where they are stored ( that place called “the mind”) then false beliefs cannot be expressed via the mouth. If there is no constant running of the mind, then there can be no constant running of the mouth. 

Is it becoming clear why the realized, spontaneously, spend so much time in the silence? Is it clear that those who are driven to talk the most are the most removed from reality / Reality? Is it clear why the truth can be known but cannot be spoken?

Is it clear, therefore, why all that is verbalized by those among the non-realized masses is to be ignored, just as you would ignore a mirage in the desert and for the same reason, namely, because it is false? 

For nonsensical words and deeds to end, persons must be rid of their belief in the concepts and ideas that generate the thinking which leads to nonsensical talking and nonsensical behaviors. 

Yet in cultures where "freedom of speech” is valued far more than freedom from speech - such as in the U.S. - then talking flourishes, talk radio flourishes, talk shows on television flourish. And they all add to the already-widespread dissemination of nonsense and falsehoods that are unquestioningly accepted around the globe as being true. 

In the “war on nonsense,” one suggestion to those taking the four-steps (or seven-steps) to realization and to freedom from beliefs is this: simultaneously become conscious of the words which are spoken while sleepwalking or while trying to awaken. 

By that means, there can be launched a two-fold assault on babble and claptrap—attacking the base of nonsense (“the mind”) as well as the nonsense being spoken by persons who are out on patrol each day and spreading foolishness in a verbal fashion as they go. 

[How likely is it that the "war on nonsense" - which the sagas have fought for ages - will be won? Not likely at all. Nowadays it seems that the Ultimate Sickness is spreading at a faster pace than ever before - especially since the advent of "social" / unsocial media" - and that assures that more nonsense will be spread and believed and that (to use Maharaj's words) more ignorance and more stupidity and more insanity shall be spread as well.] 

Maharaj invited seekers to be precise and exact with word choice. That can only happen when one stops talking in his / her sleep and is conscious of what is being said. 

Grandmother and her fellow Cherokees and others among the so-called "indigenous peoples of the Americas" taught that "Truth is nothing more than the space between exhalation and inhalation." Do you understand why some Advaitin teachers offer the pointer that “silence speaks”? 

Again, 

(A) Truth cannot be stated, so only in the silence can the Truth be known; 

(B) only in the silence can the inner resource / inner guru be heard; 

and 

(C) only in the space between exhalation and inhalation can Truth be realized.

One of the most basic ways to begin the shift to total freedom from believing false beliefs is to stop the nourishment of them where they are planted (in "the mind") by forming the new habit of not expressing those beliefs in words. Why? 

Because the expression and repetition of false beliefs is an act that only reinforces - and gives even more bogus credibility to - all false beliefs. Any method that can interrupt the thought-word-deed continuum can be compared to a disruption in the supply line in the "battle" between the Truth and false beliefs. To remain in the "silence" is to put an end to the use of the words that allow senseless thoughts to generate senseless actions. 

Regarding that "battle," Maharaj said: "Was there ever a world without troubles? Your being as a person depends on violence to others. Your very body is a battlefield, full of the dead and dying. Existence implies violence." 

He said: "You want peace, love, happiness and work hard to create pain, hatred and war." 

To that end, he was asked: 

Questioner: "Can I avoid this protracted battle with my mind?" 

Maharaj: "Yes, you can. Just live your life as it comes, but alertly, watchfully, allowing everything to happen as it happens, doing the natural things the natural way, suffering, rejoicing -- as life brings. This also is a way." 

And later Maharaj said, "It is only a question of incompletion. He who could not complete his Yoga for some reason is called failed in Yoga. Such failure is only temporary, for there can be no defeat in Yoga. This battle is always won, for it is a battle between the true and the false. The false has no chance." 

Yet it is the false that presently dominates the masses and the planet. If senseless actions can be prevented, then the addiction to chaos might lose its lustre. 

And if the upgrading of senseless words and senseless actions fade, then senseless thoughts that are given so much status in most cultures might also begin to "die on the vine" - that is, "in the mind."

Questions have been raised over the years regarding certain pointers shared earlier regarding "one's head being in the clouds" and about "transcending spiritual and / or religious roles" and "man-fabricated religious and spiritual knowledge." 

Also challenged are the pointer that it is an insane belief that drives some seekers to "abandon a phenomenal dream state, only to reside in a supposedly 'noumenal' dream state" where they have their heads "in the clouds without having one's feet planted firmly on the ground" and the pointer that "those persons fail to understand that they are actually seeing no more of The Light with their heads in the clouds than the persons planted on the ground who also cannot see the sun because of the clouds." 

The challenges were coming from one who believes many false beliefs, including the false belief that he "has become spiritual." He does not know that he cannot "become spiritual," cannot "become better," and, actually, cannot "become" anything. 

"To become" is "to change or grow or develop into something specific and different; to enhance or improve; to be upgraded; to be better than before; to change for the better"; or, conversely, "to worsen or to get worse" or "to be downgraded" or "to deteriorate," as in: 

1. "She became a much better person after she joined that group." 

2. "He became more religious - even spiritual - after he married her and settled down." 

3. "He was raised the right way by good parents, but he sure did deteriorate later one - really went downhill." 

4. "That one lucked out and found a super spouse" or "that one had a streak of bad luck and ended up with three really rotten spouses in a row." 

5. Or, as the defensive visitor who was mentioned above believes, "I have become spiritual and now I see the light; as a result of understanding non-duality, I have become a far better person than I was before" 

and 

6. "If you do not think that non-duality is all about becoming spiritual, then you do not know what you are talking about."

To be continued.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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