MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE and THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE
and
THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

Freedom from All Beliefs: Clearing Away the Final Vestiges, Part Two 

The objective witnessing of all of the relative chaos and all of the relative misery which have occurred historically on an international basis would reveal that it has always been the beliefs of the people in one nation that drove them to engage in wars with people in another nation who had different beliefs. 

The objective witnessing of all of the relative chaos and all of the relative misery that have occurred historically on a national basis would reveal that it has always been the beliefs of people in one part of a nation that drove them to engage in wars with people in another part of that nation. 

And the objective witnessing of all of the relative chaos and all of the relative misery that have occurred on what people take to be a "personal basis" would reveal that it has always been their "personal" beliefs that have driven them to argue and fight and separate and even, in many cases, to murder. 

It has been shared before on this site that in the U.S., 59% of all women killed annually, and 41% of all men killed annually, are killed during the act of arguing and / or fighting and / or "breaking up" as their conflicting beliefs drive their words of conflict and their actions of conflict. 

Yet of all of the requirements for full realization and for total freedom and for complete independence to happen, the requirement to abandon beliefs - and one's belief in false identities - is probably the most resisted. 

It might seem that, if one saw the international and national and "personal" consequences of humankind's beliefs as referenced above, that all beliefs would be abandoned not only willingly but also posthaste. 

Yet like the addict that has opportunities on a regular basis to witness the (relatively) detrimental and the (relatively) disadvantageous results of his or her addiction but then ignores the evidence and continues to have all thoughts and words and deeds driven by the addictive personality disorder, so it is with persons and their beliefs. 

Persons have the opportunity on a regular basis to witness the results of their beliefs and the (relatively) detrimental and the (relatively) disadvantageous words and actions that those beliefs inspire; yet they cling to those beliefs the same way that a child clings to its mother when a stranger tries to take the infant into its arms. 

Relatedly, sages have long invited seekers to abandon personality, because each assumed persona or identity brings with it an entire system of beliefs about "needs" and "desires" and "rights" and "expectations" and "demands" and "entitlements" and "dependencies" and "co-dependencies." 

A man in the New South Wales area of Australia admitted that he was "afraid" of giving up all of his beliefs, including his belief in the personas that have supposedly identified him for decades. Another seeker asked recently, "I mean, if I follow you plan, am I going to fall off the earth or what?" 

The reply: "You should be so fortunate." 

Maharaj said: " . . . All you need is to realize that you are dreaming. Stop imagining, stop believing. See the contradictions, the incongruities, the falsehood and the sorrow of the human state, the need to go beyond. Within the immensity of space floats a tiny atom of consciousness and in it the entire universe is contained." 

Interesting, is it not, that persons can catalogue decades of misery and suffering, see the way that misery and suffering was generated by beliefs and personas that drove thoughts and words and deeds and self-destructive behavior, but then still want to cling to those false identities and their (relatively) destructive beliefs? 

"Believers" are never free but are trapped in their beliefs and imprisoned within their culture which only accepts and affirms those who believe what the culture would have them believe. 

Those labeled as "Non-Believers" will be treated as pariahs and outcasts, either literally or figuratively or both, within their culture which only accepts those who believe what the culture would have them believe. 

The realized, on the other hand, that are not plagued by beliefs at all (and thus might be pointed to with the term "No-Belief-ers") cannot be imprisoned, cannot be affected by those that would cast them out, and cannot be affected by those who consider them to be "pariahs." 

Once the bogus beliefs of one's culture are seen to be of no value at all and are then cast aside, then the belief-based opinions of the members of that culture are also given no value at all. 

Regarding the delusional fear of loss (be it the fear of losing false identities or false beliefs or false acceptance and false love by one's family or friends or culture or nation) Maharaj's advice was to understand that if you will give up all, then you will gain all. If you understand the wisdom beyond the irony of that statement, you might be prepared to abandon all that is false and then see all that is truly real . . . and Real.

The fact: there is nothing standing between you and total freedom, total independence, total awareness, the total understanding of truth and the complete understanding of the functioning of the totality except the beliefs which persons mistakenly think are "their own beliefs" when - in fact - all beliefs are actually just "their beliefs" - just the erroneous beliefs of "others" that have been unquestioningly accepted as one's own.

To be continued.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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