MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE / LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE / LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

"Science will someday advance to the point that it will confirm the validity of the non-dual teachings."

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and

“The idea that you know what is true is dangerous, for it keeps you imprisoned in the mind.” 

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and

Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, domesticated, indoctrinated, and brainwashed to believe so that you can be free, period.  

--Floyd Henderson 

In the U.S., the "religion vs. science debate" began to take wings with an obsession-based enthusiasm in the evangelical and Christian churches in 1970's and 1980's when they embarked upon a national undertaking to combine their proselytizing strategy with a right-wing political strategy.

Whereas the multi-century puritanical influence has remained a significant force and has inspired much of the anti-science fervor among the highly-influential religious element in the U.S., that is only one of the latest iterations of religion's fight specifically with science and also their fight generally wisdom itself.

While religion both globally and historically has been seen by the wise to be the most productive disseminator of myth-and-superstition-based beliefs as well as totally false duality-based beliefs, many other "ism's" have also made a significant contribution to the promulgation and propagation of BS.

Hence the discussion will expand from looking at the religion vs. science debate to taking a look at the broader lies vs. truth challenge which the masses are losing as most can no longer accurately differentiate between the false and the true.

To that end, there is being offered a discussion of the sources of non-facts and lies - namely, the widespread 'ism's" which are perpetuating nonsense among the masses - and a look at the role which "-ism's" have played and continue to play in spreading the darkness of ignorance.

THE RATIONALE FOR REACHING A "NO-BELIEF," "ZERO CONCEPTS," "NO MIND" STATE, AS RECOMMENDED BY MAHARAJ,

  and then

ABIDING UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE ELEMENTAL BRAIN RATHER THAN THE DISTORTED, FICTION-FILLED MIND, 

PART TWO 

ONE "-ISM" WHICH HAS BEEN AT THE ROOT OF CONTROL, CHAOS, SEPARATION, DIVORCE, "INTERPERSONAL" FIGHTING, POLITICAL FIGHTING, STATES FIGHTING, AND NATIONS FIGHTING / WAR: 

"Exceptionalism"

Of all of the "ism's," the one which likely has had the most longevity - and therefore the most influence on the course of human behavior and history - is "exceptionalism." 

Exceptionalism has been variously defined as a condition or a perception or a belief.

As a condition: "Exceptionalism is a condition of believing one is (or one's tribe or nation is) extraordinarily-incomparable or unique."

As a perception: "Exceptionalism is the perception that a particular race, species, country, society, institution, movement, individual, or time period is "exceptional" (i.e., unusual, excellent, special,) in some way. 

As a belief: "Exceptionalism is the belief that something, especially a nation, does not conform to a pattern or norm but rises far above the norm; or, the belief in being different from and better than the norm or the commonplace or the typical or 'all others'." 

Nowadays, the most prevalent use of the term comes from the U.S. where politicians and their followers speak regularly of "American Exceptionalism." Coming in just under the U.S. ranking for "Most Arrogant Nation" are the many countries where citizens have similar beliefs but have the taste and discipline to "think it without announcing it," such as the U.K. and Switzerland; then there are those who also made the most recent "Top Ten List of Most Arrogant Countries": Israel, India, Russia, China, Italy, North Korea, Argentina, Australia and Poland. 

It is not difficult to imagine the concept of exceptionalism developing alongside tribalism and alongside the hierarchies which were formed as certain of the nine basic personality types exerted their influence on the earliest communities or societies: 

Type Ones foster a sense of perfectionism as well as the sense of separation which comes with their arrogance-based judgmentalism. 

Type Twos generate a sense of being highly lovable. 

Type Threes generate a sense of deserving praise and adulation and admiration and entitlement and even worship. 

Types Six and Seven and Nine also foster the concept of entitlement and dependency and co-dependency and the sense that they deserve to be taken care of by others. 

Types Eights introduced the concept that a few should be in charge of the many, and - not unlike the case with a herd of rams or a troop of baboons - Personality Type Eights force the community to accept their belief that the biggest or strongest bully is the one who should be in charge. 

(The Type Fours were the ones looking at all of those types and who either dropped out mentally or who sought some way to isolate from those types or who finally left the tribe and went out on their own. What about you? Have you left your original tribe which endorsed the concept of exceptionalism or have you at least found a way to abide beyond their influence?) 

Using the words which came when the universal consciousness spoke via the one called "Maharaj," he went about the business of trying to annihilate the personality identifications assumed by his visitors along with all of their false sense of individuality and all of the false pride and warrantless arrogance which come when persons / personas accept false roles as identities and then upgrade those delusions to "Super" status: 

"Husband" eventually becomes "Super Husband" or "Wife" becomes "Super Wife," and while their beliefs about the role of "Spouse" only requires a "Spouse" to continue to "be," the upgraded roles require that the co-dependent, counterpart role-player in their lives be a "Super Spouse." 

"Wife" can get along fine with "Husband" for a spell, but once the self-upgrade kicks in, there comes with that the belief that "I am a 'Super Wife' and I deserve a 'Super Husband' and you are not a 'Super Husband' so I'm leaving you to find someone who can be." 

The same applies with the "Super Husband" who is convinced that he deserves a better wife (though that type less often leaves and simply has long-time affairs or short-term sexual liaisons on the side to satisfy the ego and the egotism which supports a belief in ego-states and what they think they deserve). 

So it is when spouses self-upgrade and become exceptional (in their own minds). 

And so it is when employers upgrade and become exceptional (in their own minds) and demand all kinds of special treatment from the "underlings" around them; hence, the longstanding instances of sexual harassment being exposed now and the longer-standing instances of beatings and rapes and killings which have dominated human history.

Maharaj's Take: 

"There are so many who take the dawn for the noon, a momentary experience for full realization and destroy even the little they gain by excess of pride." 

He warned against, "Spiritual pride." 

"Desires and tears, envies and anger, blind beliefs and intellectual arrogance pollute and dull the psyche." 

"The realized are egoless." 

"The realized do not see themselves as something special." 

Again, the realized Yoko Ono and the realized John Lennon wisely panned in song the attachment of the masses to their dreamed up . . .

"-isms, -isms, -isms." 

What about you? Have you given any consideration to the number of "-isms" which you were taught to love and respect and develop attachments to?

To be continued.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."&

--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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