MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE and THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE
and
THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

"Science will someday advance to the point that it will confirm the validity of the non-dual teachings."

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and

“The idea that you know what is true is dangerous, for it keeps you imprisoned in the mind.” 

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and

Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, domesticated, indoctrinated, and brainwashed to believe so that you can be free, period.  

--Floyd Henderson

To continue with excerpts from the book entitled FREEDOM from BELIEFS (Believers, Non-Believers, and "No-Belief-ers") and the discussion of the way that personality-invoking "-ism's" are another source which generates a plethora of distortion-riddled beliefs: 

"-ISM'S" and Beliefs Rooted in Personality

("-ism's," Part "G") 

In describing the way that humans have fallen into a supposedly-awake-but-actually-asleep-state (resulting in their moving through the relative existence while under a spell . . . the spell of their personality trance) a glimpse was provided earlier of what the pre-personality existence was like for humanity. 

Challenges happened. Sometimes humans overcame the challenges, and sometimes the challenges overcame them. Problems arose. Sometimes solutions were found, and sometimes they were not. 

Therefore, human existence had always been complicated enough as it was, challenging enough as it was, problematic enough as it was, without the additional hardship of trying to negotiate the relative existence while being sightless . . . while being blindly driven by personality-based agendas and personality-based motivators that are even hidden from self . . . while being torn between a personality-driven desire to be kind at times but a personality-driven desire to control-by-brutality at other times. 

Yet that is exactly the case after personalities developed and, in the case mentioned earlier, when the kind Helper Personality Type Two disintegrates to the vicious Controller Personality Type Eight.

Note the way that personalities always manifest at first in tandem, generating diametrically-opposite, dualistic behavioral patterns that now ensure for the non-realized masses an existence that is marked and marred by instability. Consider another possible scenario, for example: 

Troublesome enough it is that the Personality Type Four can waver between a desire for authenticity and a tendency to perceive things in the most unrealistic manner imaginable; add stress and then the Personality Type Four will disintegrate into the state of histrionics and emotional intoxication that is typical of the Personality Type Two. 

Then watch the Type Four shift to the Type One when influenced by the egotism that accompanies the assumption of an ego-state as an identity; at that point, everyone will be judged, expected to be perfect, and found to be lacking. Being inflexible and dogmatic and critical will characterize the Four that shifts to the One. 

If the Four was raised by a Type Eight parent, then the worst traits of the Type Eight can be internalized alongside the Four and the result is a Four that, at times, feels the pain of others and of self to such an extreme degree that guilt, shame, melancholia, self-absorption, depression and withdrawing manifest; 

at other times though, if the internalized Eight is triggered, then no empathy for anyone will manifest; instead, there will be an inability to care at all; there will only be coldness and insensitivity and meanness and heartlessness that can reach sociopathic / pathological levels of cruelty. 

And all of those possibilities will be guaranteed to manifest with a Four who has internalized an Eight, who will exhibit Eight traits when in arrogance, and who will disintegrate to the worst of a Type One or Type Two when stressed. And those are just a few examples of the chaos and disharmony that manifest when personality manifests. 

Tragic enough it is (relatively speaking) that persons living under the influence of a personality trance can be so predictable (without understanding at all why) when driven by even one personality type;

however, to appreciate the full impact of the way that the nine personality types generate fluctuation and unsteadiness and instability and unpredictability and volatility and emotional and / or feeling intoxication, consider the mathematical possibilities: 

a. with every person showing at least some evidence of all nine types, and 

b. with persons being driven most by their primary type, but 

c. with all persons also being influenced by what is called their "wings" (the types on either side of their primary type, such as a 4 being influenced also by the 3 and the 5) and 

d. with persons disintegrating to another type when stressed, and 

e. with persons exhibiting the traits of various types that they internalized as children or have since adopted along the way, 

then the mathematics involved show that 

1. with 1 of 9 types able to appear in combination with each other in 2's or 3's or 4's, etc. and 

2. with the variety of other combinations that are possible, then you will find, if you do the math, that with 9 personality types potentially at play in a variety of combinations, the possible permutations come to . . . 387,420,489. 

Driven by personality, it is possible that 387,420,489 factors - personalities and combinations of personalities - will control a person's thoughts and words and actions at any given time during the day through one's relative existence. 

Moreover, adoption of the persona of "The Believer" can only happen after exposure to the repository of beliefs in any given culture, namely, the culture's "-ism's." 

Then, any culture's "-ism's" will give support to an assigned or adopted persona and will give rise to more and more personas and will support the upgrading of the assigned or adopted persona as well. 

As a result nowadays, the assumption of multiple ego-states (personalities) as identities is the abnormal global "norm"; the result is this:

the billions of non-realized personas on the planet are all suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder (or from Dissociative Personality Disorder, or from being driven by the hidden agendas of alter egos).

[Note: "An alter ego (Latin for 'other I') means 'alternative self' (or selves), distinct from a person's 'normal or true original personality.' Finding one's alter ego (or alter egos or false selves) will require finding the other self (or all of the other selves or other assumed personality identifications) which have been assigned to persons or assumed by persons."

The truth regarding all of that falseness cannot be found via "SELF-Enquiry" and the seeking of some Supreme Self or Infinite Self or Superior Self. The truth regarding false assumed personalities can only be found via a "self-inquiry, via the taking of a self-inventory" which really involves a "false-self inquiry" and a "false self inventory."

And that is why Maharaj changed his approach from endorsing a "seven-step path" involving SELF-Enquiry to endorsing a "four-step path. The "four-step path" involves seeing at the third step all of the supposedly "bad" identities played in the past as well as all of the supposedly "good" identities that are being played at the third step (i.e., "The Super Religious One," "The Spiritual Giant," "The Super Seeker," "The Super Helper," etc.) and abandoning belief in all personal identifications.

Thus Maharaj said, "Only that person will visit this place whose virtue and sin have come to an end." The realized abandon all beliefs, including beliefs about their "good roles' and beliefs about their "bad roles."]

Yet as a result of not being free of belief in a host of personality identifications, insanity and chaos and instability prevail as billions of persons are being driven subconsciously by the hidden agendas of millions of assigned or assumed or internalized or disintegrated combinations of personality which generate fear and desire and misery and suffering. 

Moreover, if it is insane to assume that you are something that you are not, and if it is insane to not even know who (what) you truly are, and if it is insane to believe beliefs without knowing why you believe them, and if it insane to be unable to differentiate between the true and the false, then the warped mental ("mind") state of billions of person's on the planet should come as no surprise at all. 

A woman recently emailed the following: "My gosh - I've just realized - my husband is totally insane!" 

The reply: "Right you are, and that is half of what you need to know to begin the 'journey' that can lead to your being restored to sanity." 

She: "Half?" 

The reply: "But of course. The other half is for you to realize that your assessment and diagnosis of his condition is also an assessment and diagnosis of your condition. You are merely practicing psychological projection." 

The reply continued: "To find all of the things that you are not - even as you believe that all those things define who you are - is to (1) reveal the depth of insanity that is actually at play and is to (2) pave the way for casting aside those false identities and beliefs and then for possibly finding that which you truly are or, more importantly - as Maharaj said - finding all that you are not.

He said, "Actually, you need not find the answer to "Who Am I, really?' or 'What Am I, really?' All you need to find is the answer to "Who Am I not, really?"

To find all the falsehoods that you take to be truth - about you, him, her, them, "the world," your friends, your family, your religion or some "spiritual program," your culture, your favorite political party, your dogma, your god and / or gods and goddesses, your 'values,' your beliefs, etc. - is to pave the way for moving away from your self-deception that is rooted in 'their deceptions' and in 'their deceiving' of you. 

"That, in turn, is a prerequisite for eventually being free of living under the influence of insane ideas and multiple personalities as well as under the influence of the impact of all of the false beliefs based in the conceptualized '-ism's' and the conceptualized 'power' which you allow to drive your thoughts and words and actions without ever having questioned those beliefs and determining if they are rooted in proven fact or if they are, instead, merely more of the vast compilation of the learned ignorance which your culture blasts persons with in its willy-nilly fashion and which you have blindly accepted along the way (right along with all of the wounds from having been blasted as well . . . wounds which you also unquestioningly accept because you do not even know that you have been wounded and made sick . . . made Ultimately Sick)." 

Yesterday, a woman asked a man about "his" beliefs and about "floyd's" beliefs. The pointers offered here in such cases always include the following for consideration: 

(A) There is no one here who could be said to be "A Believer" or "A Non-Believer"; and 

(B) it should be of no concern to her when she crosses paths with those who take themselves to be "Believers" or "Non-Believers." 

The only questions that she should ask are: 

(1) "What do I believe?"

and 

(2) "Exactly why do I believe what I believe?" 

Behind her questions was evidence of her beliefs as well as evidence of her judging those who do not believe what she believes and concluding that they are not only "wrong" but are also "not as good as";

thus, visitors are provided with another example of how dreamed up concepts and bogus ideas (a.k.a., baseless beliefs) generate a false-but-seemingly-true sense of separation, a duality-based sense of separation from understanding the Oneness, and an egotistical sense of better-than-ment. 

The belief that "I am better than you and him and her and them because of my beliefs" is among the most foolish beliefs of all.

To be continued. 

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."&

--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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