MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE and THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE
and
THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

"Science will someday advance to the point that it will confirm the validity of the non-dual teachings."

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and

“The idea that you know what is true is dangerous, for it keeps you imprisoned in the mind.” 

--Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and

Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, domesticated, indoctrinated, and brainwashed to believe so that you can be free, period.  

--Floyd Henderson

ONE "-ISM" WHICH HAS BEEN AT THE ROOT OF CONTROL, CHAOS, SEPARATION, DIVORCE, "INTERPERSONAL FIGHTING," "POLITICAL FIGHTING," "STATES FIGHTING, AND NATIONS FIGHTING / WAR

Exceptionalism (continued)

 It was noted that much can be revealed by understanding the history of the way that the non-dual understanding became necessary to address the Ultimate Sickness and the way that the Enneagram has been used by some teachers of non-duality to expose the personality trance in which the masses live as well as the overall effects of personality assumption (a.k.a., assuming false personal identities).

That which is real has been forever; all that is not real - but which is taken to be so - has not been forever but has come about at various times as a result of distortion and ignorance. Such is the case with personality / personalities, assumed roles, ego-states, personas, stage characters, false identities . . . call them what you will. 

The earliest humans or human-like beings, as with modern humans, faced plenty of challenges during the relative existence, but one challenge they did not have to deal with was the nonsense of assuming scores and scores of personalities.

(Did some versions of certain modern-day personalities manifest, such as "The Boss" of the tribe / clan / family unit, etc.? Likely, but the manner of abidance which came by living under the auspices of the brain rather than living under the auspices of warped, hand-me-down minds which result after generations of minds have been bastardized by acculturation, indoctrination, the teachings of false beliefs, etc. could not have been a widespread phenomenon before complex languages and distorted, ideology-based communications became commonplace).

Note than each assumed personality brings with it a specific primary desire and a specific primary fear.

Did the earliest humans desire? Yes, but were the desires natural rather than unnatural or supposedly "supernatural"? Also, yes. 

Were they afraid at times? Yes, but were the fears natural rather than unnatural or supposedly "supernatural"? Yes.

Moreover, that did not change until humans began dreaming up supernatural concepts based in magical, nonsensical thinking, in distortion, in ignorance, in myths, in superstitions, and in non-facts. That paved the way for ignorance-based explanations (and ignorance-based belief in ignorance-based explanations).

For example:

"Why oh why did the hurricane devastate that city, O Holy One?" 

"Because of the negative karma of the people there, my child."

As agricultural skills emerged and some humans became less nomadic and began forming communities, some of the more observant began to notice "individual differences" in the ways that people behaved and reacted alongside patterns of behavior that were common among the members of certain sub-groups in the community. It was seen that some parents interacted in one way with their offspring, some in other ways that were quite different.

It was also seen that children used different coping mechanisms to try to adapt to a variety of family situations, and it was seen that during stressful events, a group of, say, five people all reacted the same way but that another group of five all reacted the same way but in a way that differed from the people in the first group.

The observant began to see that all of the members of the tribe or community consistently revealed certain traits without exception: the prideful were always prideful, no matter what; the avoiders were always avoiding, no matter what; the admiration-seeking, narcissistic performers were always performing, no matter what; 

the love-seeking helpers and enablers were always helping and enabling in order to get love, no matter what; the controllers were always trying to control, no matter what; the escapists were always trying to escape, no matter what; the reformers were always judging and trying to reform, no matter what.

The most observant began to see that (a) those with a similar family situation behaved the same way and that (b) when stressful situations arose, those who shared in common a dominate trait all showed the same opposite trait as well when strained. For example, those who lost a father early on were seen to be the seemingly-kind helper types.

Though they seemed to be the friendly ones in the community, when they became stressed or were challenged, they showed the same traits as those in the village who were usually the angry, controlling, domineering, power-hungry, lustful types.

[Today, if one understands the Enneagram, she / he will know that what happened in the scenario described above is that a Personality Type Two Helper became stressed and was driven by arrogance to disintegrate to the Personality Type Eight Controller / Boss / "Parent" and to become for awhile an angry, controlling, domineering, power-hungry, lustful type person.]

An understanding among the observant of the fact that stress leads to psychic deterioration (and to totally-predictable behaviors among the mentally and emotionally unhealthy) came into being.

It was also seen by the most observant that people in the community were all being driven by one of nine dominate traits or "passions," that is, by whatever it was that they were seen to be "most passionate about," whether that was about reforming everyone; or about creating or maintaining a phony image; or about trying to dominate everyone else; or about allowing others to dominate them in order to gain something they wanted, etc.

Moreover, it was seen that their behaviors were "textbook" in the way that those behaviors manifested so consistently and unwaveringly and in how unsurprisingly foreseeable and predictable their thoughts and words and deeds were going to be in any given situation, some being passionate about gaining power and leadership roles; some being passionately angry most of the time; some being passionate about performing in ways that generated admiration from the entire community, etc.; thus, "distinctions" and "dualities" were born with personality.

"Differences" and "personal characteristics" were noted, and the attention to one's relativistic, personal passion soon began to displace any former concern for the community as a whole. That gave rise to "self"-ishness which, in turn, blocked the original sense of Oneness and displaced the earlier all-for-one-and-one-for-all attitude with a passion for fulfilling one's own desires and avoiding one's own fears.

Conflict driven by self-absorption became the "norm." It was Evagrius who discussed the early Greeks' version of the nine passions (or the nine obsessions or nine dominant personality traits). That list included anger, pride, vainglory, envy, greed, incontinence, gluttony, lust and acedia (i.e., boredom; listlessness; apathy; a lack of care or interest; indifference; and laziness).

Because he showed how those passions (i.e., dominant personality traits) distorted human perception and limited the human search for the essence and reality and authenticity and led to a preference for the trivial and clichéd and ordinary - especially after religion limited the search to the confines of their buildings and texts only.

Then Evagrius came under attack from the churches of Rome and Constantinople.

People were dissuaded by their religious leaders from seeking answers scientifically or objectively and told to accept unquestioningly the answers that were provided via dogma and "holy texts" only.

New, "good" selves or personas or identities were generated, further eliminating any opportunity among the mostly-religious masses to know the essence and to be able to differentiate between the non-real and that which is real and that which is authentic.

With the few remaining seekers who used the non-duality teachings to uncover the root of all disharmony and emotional instability and chaos, early teachers discussed the way that everyone developed a primary "point of view" from the list of nine possibilities.

It was seen by some that it is those "views" or "passions" or "primary personality traits" that mark and mar the human condition. The patterns of thoughts and words and behaviors associated with the passions now align with the nine personality types of the Enneagram.

What might be called - for the sake of discussion only - "human character" (as exhibited among the realized) will spring forth from conscious-awareness of the essence and that which is authentic and real, including Real Love;

therefore, the realized will behave in what most might call "the way of love" without having even a single belief about "love vs. hate."

(Actually, the realized are functioning in the non-dualistic, no-concept, no-belief, no-identity manner of True Love which manifests alongside the understanding of the unicity.)

In contrast to what can manifest during the AM-ness if there exists a conscious-awareness of the essence and that which is authentic and real, including Real Love, those separated from reality and Reality and authenticity who are blindly driven by their dominate and secondary personality types will be ruled by habitual and unconscious, "automatic" responses controlled by the hidden agendas of their personality / personalities.

To be continued.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."&

--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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