MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE and THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

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MAHARAJ AND THE RELIGION VS. SCIENCE DEBATE
and
THE LIES VS. TRUTH DEBATE

Additional Tools / Understandings Which Can Be Used To End Attachment To False Beliefs, Part "D"

Here, it is made clear that along "the path," religious and / or spiritual roles (or "religious-like or spiritual-like" roles) will usually be assumed and played at the third of four (or seven) steps. 

Typically, heads must "enter the clouds" in an effort to try to see things noumenal, in order to break - to some degree at least - the attachment only to things phenomenal and to be motivated to seek the light. Yet the fact remains, one cannot see any more light with his head in the clouds than a person standing on the ground, gazing skyward on a cloudy day, and also having the light blocked from view.

Consider how many persons have their heads in the clouds and consider the fact that - though many such persons are highly intelligent - they haven't the slightest inkling about how ignorant their beliefs are:

(A) Today, 2.18 billion people are celebrating their belief that a virgin gave birth to a child; that the child grew into a man who was killed; that the male rose from the dead; and that the male is now their "Savior" and the only hope to save the world. 

[By that way, that child was not the first who was supposedly born of a virgin and who supposedly became a "savior." There were actually 22 cases before that when the exact same story was told and believed. During the times when those 23 tales was told, a woman being pregnant out of wedlock would be stoned to death, but the claims of (a) still being a virgin and (2) giving birth to a savior earned those women a mulligan long before golf came up with that concept. Whew. Close call. Quick thinking, ladies.]

(B) And consider the actions of a man last weekend which were reported to me. The man is one of the most intelligent I have ever met, one of the top tech experts for an international company that makes billions of dollars a year. To his family he explained that he was going to have to cut short his visit with them in order to go to the nearby cemetery and visit the grave site where his abusive and neglectful and perverted father is buried. Why? 

(a) Because the effects of the Stockholm Syndrone are quite real

and

(b) to show his son where his father is buried and to have his son join him in wishing "Merry Christmas" to the human remains buried six feet below ground in a casket. In fact, those remains are supposedly in better shape than most in that cemetery because a sister paid extra to have the remains double-sealed in a casket within a casket. 

Again, consider how many persons have their heads stuck in the clouds (or stuck up inside something) and consider the fact that - though many such persons are highly intelligent - they haven't the slightest inkling about how astonishingly ignorant their beliefs are. And ignorant beliefs will always trump intelligence if truth is not sought and found.

If only the remains could have answered and pointed toward the truth, saying: "Merry Christmas??! Merry Christmas my ass!! Hellooooo!! I'm dead!! You're talking to a pile of bones, you freakin' fool. Wake up, will you!! Geez Louise!!"

Yet his history shows that even then he would not have heard. Why? Because of what he has already heard:

He has heard his pastor and his bosses and his favorite right-wing politicians as they programmed him, conditioned him, indoctrinated him, and brainwashed him to believe what they believe, and succumbing to that process always closes off one's ears to the truth and to facts.

The problem with the assumption of "religious-like" or "spiritual-like" roles is that seekers typically fixate at that point - at the level which Maharaj called "kindergarten spirituality." In describing their circumstance, Krishna was not especially "kind" when discussing the ego / ego-state that is assumed at that level, suggesting that those who do not understand that Reality is beyond both beingness and non-beingness are "fools." 

Thus, such supposed beingness, including "being spiritual," is a trap if one does not eventually "transcend spiritual and / or religious roles" and if one does not transcend "man-fabricated religious and spiritual knowledge" (which are two pointers from the book Freedom From Beliefs which are disparaged by the billions who have been programmed, conditioned, etc.) 

Maharaj also made clear that those who do not transition their religious and / or spiritual role-assumption and role-playing are also just fooling themselves with their prideful but false belief about having realized and are allowing "others" to fool them as well. As a result, he said, they will never reach the fullness of the light: 

"There are so many who take the dawn for the noon, a momentary experience for full realization, and destroy even the little they gain by excess of pride." 

Indeed, how foolish one is to believe that he or she is being bathed in the full light of the noontime sun though actually standing in the dimness of dawn. 

And how foolish one is to believe that she or he can "become something different" from that which they truly are, were, and shall forever be, namely, energy-matter. 

[Moreover, in the case of humans (and deer, and fish, and birds, etc.) many forms of energy can manifest temporarily within a space formed by an elemental plant food body, one of which is conscious-energy]

An elemental plant food body is one part of a three-part composite unity consisting of (1) elements which are constantly coming together and coming apart and through which (2) energy enters and exits throughout the manifestation and through which (3) oxygen also enters and exits throughout the manifestation. 

Were it not for the fact that elements are constantly coming together and coming apart, persons would not have to eat to replace, for example, the skin cells which cycle in and out every 28 days or the stomach lining cells which only last a fraction of that time without having to be replaced; 

and were it not for the fact that energy - including conscious-energy - enters and exits the elemental plant food body throughout the manifestation, persons would not have to eat to replace that energy - and the other forms of energy - which come and go; 

and were it not for the fact that humans use about 550 liters of pure oxygen (19 cubic feet) per day, then constant breathing would not be required. 

Thus the sages have long made clear that there is no "one," much less anyone who is experiencing any continuity at all. Why is that distortion so widespread? Because of memory which gives a false sense of continuity. 

Yet look at one's school pictures from age 6 to age 18 and it should be clear that the "person / body" thought to be in picture one of that set is not the same "person / body" shown in picture two, much less the same "person / body" shown in picture twelve. 

There is no continuity. Per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, all that comes together will come apart, including bodies and minds and specks of consciousness. That is simple science, the science which Maharaj said could substantiate the non-dual teachings. 

In the absence of understanding science or discarding the validity of scientific evidence or believing what their religious or spiritual leaders tell them, then the masses for the most part believe that they will continue to exist for eternity in one form or another. 

Some believe that form will be a gauzy, transparent form, (a.k.a., "an angel"); some believe that the form will be an invisible, winged, half-bird, half-human being, capable of flying and even hovering over a person to be its "guardian"); 

and

some religious men believe that their earthly form will not change and that they will exist forever as a physical form capable of enjoying the benefits of abiding in a celestial brothel where they will be capable of experiencing an endless series of orgasms with thousands of whores and wives and with seventy-two virgins at their disposal for eternity.

The Christian man living next door believes that he, too, shall exist forever as a form capable of enjoying physical pleasure and that his God is going to get rid of the current wife whom he has tired of and will get him someone else who is younger and more attractive whom he can enjoy being with forever, or at least until he tires of that replacement and then calls on his God to pimp for him again and get another replacement. He did not care to hear that his beliefs align him more with Muslim men than with his "Christian brothers."

In the absence of scientific understanding, there are beliefs and beliefs and more beliefs, all of which are lies and distortions and delusions.

That which believes it can "become" something else, can become "better" (or "worse"), or can become "spiritual" is an ego-state (a false role, a bogus identity, an assumed personality / persona). 

When the consciousness (as a result of programming, conditioning, domestication, acculturation, indoctrination and brainwashing) is blocked from seeing truth and reality and Reality, then the counterfeit body-mind-personality triad is believed to be real and can thereafter generate a near-infinite number of beliefs that are taken to be true but that are not. 

In fact, the only "triad" that non-duality recognizes as being presently based in fact is the air-elements-energy triad, and even that triad forms what is nothing more than a temporary grouping; therefore, the air-elements-energy triad is not that which is uniquely real either. 

If it is understand that the triad is merely a "composite unity" that is temporary, then it should become clear that the oxygen being circulated through a space or from cannot become something other than oxygen; 

and if it is understood that the elements forming the temporary space cannot become something other than elements; and if it is understood that the energy manifested in that space (specifically, the conscious-energy) cannot become something other than the type of energy that it is; 

and if all of that is understood, then it can also be understood that neither air nor elements nor energy can "become spiritual," can "become better," can "become worse," or can become anything that is different from what they already are. 

In fact, the entire notion of "becoming" - the very belief that one can "become" something else - is just one more belief that is based in learned ignorance and - often - in the egotism that always manifests alongside the assumption of an ego-state. Thus it can be asked: 

Can H2O "become" a cube or a lake or a river or a waterfall or vapor or ice or snow or sleet or steam or a puddle or a stream, or are those also nothing more than "man-fabricated concepts" which erroneously suggest that an "A" can become a "B" or which suggest that something can become something else that is totally different from what it really is? 

That which is real is unchangeable, fixed, constant, consistent, unalterable, immutable, and absolute. 

That which believes it is changeable, variable, and alterable is the blocked consciousness, blocked from seeing facts and reality and Reality and truth, blocked by the accumulated and bogus contents of a "mind" which leads persons to assume that they are that which they are not. 

That which believes it can change or grow or develop into something that is different from what it actually already is is a speck of consciousness which has been fooled. 

That which believes it can become enhanced or improved or made better or made worse or ungraded or downgraded is a speck of conscious-energy that has been fooled. 

And all such beliefs are rooted in the duality of either (1) an egotism-based notion of being "very good" or even "great" or (2) a guilt-and-shame-based notion of being "bad" or "unworthy." 

Either way, all such notions and beliefs are outgrowths of a fiction-filled "mind" that is plagued with psychological distortions which were set in place by faulty programming, warped conditioning, perverted domestication, arrogance-based acculturation, authority-generated indoctrination, and control-freak-driven brainwashing.

Because all in the relative existence truly is relative - that is, all observed and judged via differing and varying misperceptions only - then the very notions or beliefs about what is "good vs. bad" and "right vs. wrong" and "better vs. worse" and "spiritual vs. not spiritual" . . . 

. . . and "religious vs. not religious" or "spiritual enough vs. not spiritual enough" and "changed for the better vs. changed for the worse" will vary from one person to the next. Who, then, could possibly claim to know which of the above elements in those dualistic pairs are the "right" ones? 

Who believes that he or she can define in absolute terms any or all concepts and beliefs when all beliefs and concepts are totally relative and not absolute at all? 

Only the programmed and conditioned and domesticated and acculturated and brainwashed and indoctrinated; only specks of blocked consciousness which have assumed the most arrogant of assumed personas; only those who take themselves to be right and perfect and capable of judging dualistic pairs and determining - without any doubt or question - which of the opposite elements in each pair is at play in any given situation. 

Yet all the time, they might as well be debating "sasquatches vs. unicorns"; "satanic reps vs. guardian angels"; "tooth fairies vs. Easter bunnies"  or concluding as one woman did that "Floyd is no longer a good man and is no longer good enough to be in my presence because he has become a New Age Agent of Satan."

No element of a dualistic pair has any more or any less credibility than the opposite element in the dualistic pair. All duality is false. It is all a part of the dream; all a part of the scheme; all a part of the scene. It all amounts to nothing more than a flash across the screen of blocked consciousness. 

Persons viewing movies in 3-D have been seen to jump back in fear when it appears that something has left the screen. Their perception / misperception is that they really are about to be struck by whatever they think is flying directly at them. 

And that is the way that the non-realized masses traverse the relative existence, seeing images and believing that they are all real; believing that some of the images they see are "good"; believing that some of the other images they see are "bad"; believing that some of the formerly "bad" images have changed or improved and are now "good"; and believing that some of the formerly "good" images have suddenly been exposed and revealed to have been "bad" all along. 

Such dualistic beliefs have been dreamed up by leaders claiming to be "religious" or "spiritual" and those beliefs are being clung to by their followers, the non-realized masses; by contrast, such dualistic beliefs are disproved and discounted and discarded as a result of a few having received some basic scientific awarenesses, just as Maharaj predicted. 

When the most basic scientific understandings are ignored, then - as is happening around the globe this very day - not only can two billion+ persons on the planet show just how fooled they have been; actually, 99+% of all persons on the planet who claim to be either affiliated with one religion or another or who claim to be "spiritual, not religious!" have been equally fooled.

The result? People talking to bones. People beheading other people. People breaking up families who are trying to escape murderers back home. Children being locked in cages. Some of those locked up children being denied medical care and being allowed to die when being imprisoned by a nation where 50% tolerate or even approve of such happenings.

Leaders using winks and nods and belief-based dog whistles to signal that the abuse and even murder of non-whites is quite acceptable. A country using its military for nation-building. Taking assets from poorer people and giving it to the rich to make them even richer. Stripping food assistance and medical care away from the most needy. Allowing a leader to spend $120 million taxpayers' dollars in three years to play golf. 

Really? Really.

Wow.

To be continued.

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Here, with those who are still driven to talk about "god," the "Son of god," the "Holy Spirit," "Buddha," "Krishna," etc., etc., etc., the invitation to them is to view those as verbs, not nouns.

THE EXPLANATION

If looked at as nouns, they point to illusions and are, therefore, a total waste of time to even discuss; if looked at as verbs which are resulting in certain sane but rare behaviors among humanity, then they are worthy of some attention during the relative existence.

Meaning? There are members of certain groups who say things such as "My concept of god in the past was of a weak god, an absentee god, A Santa Claus-type god, a mean, punishing, vindictive god, etc. Today, I am in close contact with a loving and caring god whom I worship and praise and glorify and give thanks to."

The reply to that usually goes like this: "If you are in contact with a god that wants to be worshipped and praised and glorified, then you're dealing with someone like yourself - a narcissist - and hanging out with narcissists will never bring an end to your narcissism (that narcissism evidenced by the fact that you think you are "godly").

Next, in the phrase 'loving and caring god,' any supposed god that truly had her or his act together would tell you that the totally irrelevant part of that phrase is 'god' and that the only part that is relevant is the "loving and caring" part.

"That is, a non-narcissistic their god / their goddess would say, "I care not an iota about being worshipped and praised and glorified by you or anyone else. How arrogant and insecure and needy would I have to be to want that? Forget the man-made, dreamed up noun 'god' and focus on the 'god as a verb' understanding and then go forth and let loving and caring be verbs - not adjectives - and let them generate the act of love and the act of caring and let those actions manifest through you."

Yeshu'a (Jesus) and Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis were spot on:

"No one shall ever see 'the kingdom of heaven.' It is within"

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and earth shall fade away."

--Yeshu'a (Jesus)

and

"Heaven and hell are not geographic places

but are states of mind, nothing more than

concepts dreamed up by men."

--Pope John Paul II

"There is no hell."

--Pope Francis, the current pope

in an interview with journalist Eugenio Scalfari,

a writer used by the Pope to issue off the record

teachings which become a part of the Papal Magisterium.

[That said, would that the popes who have shown the courage to reject a core concept of their dogma - namely, "hell" - would find the additional courage required to question the very existence of their institution in light of the centuries-long cover-up of their history of raping children and in light of the mental and emotional and psychological scarring of billions of their members past and present.

And that need for courage also applies as questions need to be asked about why so many other sky cults are still being supported and allowed to continue to exist as well. When certain types of programming and conditioning have been shown to blind the masses, they should end. Will they? Not likely. Why?

Because what the masses think and say and do is most influenced by the international crime families which hold sway over the masses as criminals conduct their planet-wide operations. What are the major international crime families and which are the most influential and have the largest memberships?

The Mafia / La Cosa Nostra; the Catholic Church (with it 1.2 billion followers) whose Vatican Bank worked for decades with the Mafia while laundering mob earnings (for a 15% all-profit charge by the Bank); Protestant and Evangelical Churches (with over 1.2 billion followers) like the one I was raised in where the youth director molested and sexually assaulted young girls; big business which has long created environments in which people have been abused; powerful political bodies like the U.S. Congress, etc., etc., etc.)

With all of those crime families, neither the followers nor the leadership ever voluntarily step down or shut down their criminal activities. Be they gangs, organized crime families, religions, big business, politicians, etc., they all want control and they all want power and they all want money, and nothing internal will interfere with the driving forces at play.

The masses must demand that all those in charge must step down and their groups and institutions must shut down, and there's the real problem because the continuation of their crimes are enabled not as much by the people running such crime organizations as they are enabled by the masses of people who - wanting some perceived "payoff" - remain involved with them and give them money and support them and aid and abet the continued existence of those criminal enterprises and thus facilitate the ability of church criminals and political criminals and other types of criminals to continue to commit their crimes.]

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